To All You Sanders Supporters......It's Over

[BSM1]

It signals a shift in political and social attitudes, which can't be dismissed as insignificant and irrelevant.

I don't disagree. This is what's disturbing. IMHO.

Trump simply appeals to the lowest common denominator.

And Bernie doesn't? Check out some of the interviews with many of the Bernites. Useful idiots.

He was acquitted though wasn't he? Charges may have been brought, but they were ultimately thrown out. And why? Because it was ridiculous honestly. I never saw any impeachment stuff against Kennedy, did you? yet he was dipping in more than just Marilyn now wasn't he? I maintain that the reason so many went after Clinton in regards to Monica is because, though they may have hated him, they truly couldn't find anything else to nail him on other than him nailing. Politically, he was gold. So they had to go after his personal life.

Need to check your facts. Clinton's impeachment had nothing to do with his personal life. He was impeached for perjury and obstruction of justice.

 

[Revoltingest]

He was acquitted though wasn't he?

That's what I pointed out.

Charges may have been brought, but they were ultimately thrown out.

To be acquitted is not the same as having the charges thrown out.

Btw, he was guilty lying to a grand jury & suborning perjury.
He should be sharing a jail cell with Nixon & Blagojevich.

And why? Because it was ridiculous honestly. I never saw any impeachment stuff against Kennedy, did you? yet he was dipping in more than just Marilyn now wasn't he? I maintain that the reason so many went after Clinton in regards to Monica is because, though they may have hated him, they truly couldn't find anything else to nail him on other than him nailing. Politically, he was gold. So they had to go after his personal life.

Kennedy lived in a different age, when the press cooperated in covering up indiscretions.
The news we were fed was much more controlled then because of high barriers to entry.
Clinton perhaps thought he'd be accorded the same courtesies, but the internet had arrived,
& caught him by surprise. The old school media were still cooperating, but Matt Drudge wasn't.
Was this unfair to Clinton?
Should pols be exempt from public scrutiny & the law?
No, & no.
The positive side of this is that every prez will know that he/she cannot count on a friendly press to hide things.

 

[Draka]

Need to check your facts. Clinton's impeachment had nothing to do with his personal life. He was impeached for perjury and obstruction of justice.

Surrounding the Monica Lewinsky debacle. It most certainly had to do with his personal life. Come on, they tried to basically hang a married man for trying to deny an extra-marital affair. The whole thing revolved around Lewinsky and her dang blue dress. And you want to say it had nothing to do with his personal life? What frickin business was it of anyone who he had bobbin on his knob under his desk? What bearing does it have on what he actually was getting accomplished politically in that office? Nothing. Nada. Not a damn thing. I couldn't give a crap if a president has two wives and three husbands and an extra girlfriend on the side as long as they govern well.

 

[jeager106]

Hilary as POTUS?????
I shudder to think.
Can the Dems be that ignorant or THAT blindly loyal to the liberal party?

 

[Draka]

To be acquitted is not the same as having the charges thrown out.

Btw, he was guilty lying to a grand jury & suborning perjury.
He should be sharing a jail cell with Nixon & Blagojevich.

Kennedy lived in a different age, when the press cooperated in covering up indiscretions.
The news we were fed was much more controlled then because of high barriers to entry.
Clinton perhaps thought he'd be accorded the same courtesies, but the internet had arrived,
& caught him by surprise. The old school media were still cooperating, but Matt Drudge wasn't.
Was this unfair to Clinton?
Should pols be exempt from public scrutiny & the law?
No, & no.
The positive side of this is that every prez will know that he/she cannot count on a friendly press to hide things.

Point was, it was still ridiculous and petty. Of course he was going to lie about the affair. What married man doesn't? You have any idea how many sitting senators and representatives lie about their personal life? A great many that went after Clinton I would wager too. It was cheap and petty is what it was. Again, they couldn't get him on anything politically, so they went after him personally. Which was low and pathetic.

 

[Draka]

Hilary as POTUS?????
I shudder to think.
Can the Dems be that ignorant or THAT blindly loyal to the liberal party?

Trump causes much more a shudder. More like a crippling fear. So that could definitely play more in Clinton's favor.

 

[Revoltingest]

And Bernie doesn't? Check out some of the interviews with many of the Bernites. Useful idiots.

Bernie can pander with the best of'm.
- Free university education.
- Make only the wealthy pay more.
- Free health care.
These promises are very easy to make, & just plausible enuf.
They appeal to a huge segment of voters.

 

[jeager106]

Trump causes much more a shudder. More like a crippling fear. So that could definitely play more in Clinton's favor.

I'm open minded and though registered as a conservative I'll vote for a lib
in a heartbeat if the lib is a better choice for my community, state, country.
Curious why you say "More like a crippling fear."
I doubt I've ever voted a straight ticket as there are many times good liberals
were a better choice.

 

[jeager106]

Bernie can pander with the best of'm.
- Free university education.
- Make only the wealthy pay more.
- Free health care.
These promises are very easy to make, & just plausible enuf.
They appeal to a huge segment of voters.

Yeah they SOUND GOOD but either taxpayers or a select group of wealthy taxpayers
will be footing the bill.
"There is NO such thing as a free lunch."
OR a "free education".
I thought everyone understood that our public education system is funded
by TAX DOLLARS.

 

[Sultan Of Swing]

Surrounding the Monica Lewinsky debacle. It most certainly had to do with his personal life. Come on, they tried to basically hang a married man for trying to deny an extra-marital affair. The whole thing revolved around Lewinsky and her dang blue dress. And you want to say it had nothing to do with his personal life? What frickin business was it of anyone who he had bobbin on his knob under his desk? What bearing does it have on what he actually was getting accomplished politically in that office? Nothing. Nada. Not a damn thing. I couldn't give a crap if a president has two wives and three husbands and an extra girlfriend on the side as long as they govern well.

You must be a Trump supporter.

 

[Draka]

I'm open minded and though registered as a conservative I'll vote for a lib
in a heartbeat if the lib is a better choice for my community, state, country.
Curious why you say "More like a crippling fear."
I doubt I've ever voted a straight ticket as there are many times good liberals
were a better choice.

Trump, to many of us, represents what is worst about this country. Bigotry and hatefulness. He is floating on the backs of people who are racist and prejudiced. Hell, he has the KKK in his corner and advocating for him. That's got to say something right there doesn't it? Add in that though he keeps playing on how rich he is and that somehow that means he will do well economically for this country, the truth is he started out wealthy due to being gifted millions by his father. had he invested better than he has he'd actually be worth far more than he is. He has gone into debt by the billions and has, thus, declared several bankruptcies. And people think that his money management skills are great enough to turn this country around financially? If the evidence speaks to anything it indicates a complete financial ruin. So, with him, we see a worse relationship with foreign countries (other leaders, our allies, do NOT like him or what he's been spewing, nor do the ones we sit on tentative ground with already so that certainly is not a good thing), we see more racial and ethnic division and hatred within our country being validated, AND he's likely to sink us in the economic and employment areas (keep in mind that with all his talking about how great America is and booming employment here he still has his goods made in China and Mexico - you know - that country that send us criminals and rapists as per him?)

Trump is scary in many respects. Not just him himself, but the fact that so many actually support his brand of bigotry and ignorance doesn't speak well for the country as a whole.

 

[Revoltingest]

Point was, it was still ridiculous and petty. Of course he was going to lie about the affair. What married man doesn't? You have any idea how many sitting senators and representatives lie about their personal life? A great many that went after Clinton I would wager too. It was cheap and petty is what it was. Again, they couldn't get him on anything politically, so they went after him personally. Which was low and pathetic.

First, this married man doesn't lie about affairs.
It's easy to be truthful.....I don't have them.
The presumption that lying about affairs is endemic among married men is
not only erroneous, it's specious justification of Clinton's being a cad or worse.

For the news media to go after Clinton was far from petty....it is their function.
The big problem arose when Clinton failed to come clean, instead exacerbating
the drama with this.....

If he'd simply immediately fessed up, the whole mess would likely have been dismissed as another "bimbo eruption".
It was arguably petty partisan politics as the motive when the Pubs pursued him, but Clinton himself
committed crimes by perjuring himself in front of a grand jury & suborning perjury (Betty Currie).
Should popular presidents be above the law?

 

[BSM1]

Surrounding the Monica Lewinsky debacle. It most certainly had to do with his personal life. Come on, they tried to basically hang a married man for trying to deny an extra-marital affair. The whole thing revolved around Lewinsky and her dang blue dress. And you want to say it had nothing to do with his personal life? What frickin business was it of anyone who he had bobbin on his knob under his desk? What bearing does it have on what he actually was getting accomplished politically in that office? Nothing. Nada. Not a damn thing. I couldn't give a crap if a president has two wives and three husbands and an extra girlfriend on the side as long as they govern well.

One more time, Clinton's impeachment had nothing to do with the dalliance with an underage intern (although I guess you could say she was the cherry on top). You really need to read about Paula Jones and how this misogynistic scum used her and other women; I am assuming you have women's lib leaning.

 

[Draka]

You must be a Trump supporter.

Ha ha...I said "govern well". He wouldn't. though, how elegant and refined of a first lady would Mrs. Trump be?

Spoiler: Nudity, nipple

 

[jeager106]

misogynistic: in short the dictionary definition of this is an intense HATRED of women.
So are you suggesting Wild WILLIE hates women thus he beds all of them he can???
That sounds very psychological. A psychological illness perhaps?

 

[jeager106]

Ha ha...I said "govern well". He wouldn't. though, how elegant and refined of a first lady would Mrs. Trump be?

Spoiler: Nudity, nipple

She don't need no gun. That body is killer!

 

[Draka]

First, this married man doesn't lie about affairs.
It's easy to be truthful.....I don't have them.
The presumption that lying about affairs is endemic among married men is
not only erroneous, it's specious justification of Clinton's being a cad or worse.

For the news media to go after Clinton was far from petty....it is their function.
The big problem arose when Clinton failed to come clean, instead exacerbating
the drama with this.....

If he'd simply immediately fessed up, the whole mess would likely have been dismissed as another "bimbo eruption".
It was arguably petty partisan politics as the motive when the Pubs pursued him, but Clinton himself
committed crimes by perjuring himself in front of a grand jury & suborning perjury (Betty Currie).
Should popular presidents be above the law?

I didn't say all married men have affairs did I? I said a married man would lie about one if he was having one. And really...who said it was anyone's business in the first place? You know, maybe they had an open relationship. Maybe Hillary was doing her own thing and just didn't get caught? Either way, I still say it was petty to go after that in the first place. Again, it was simply done because they couldn't get him on anything else.

 

[Revoltingest]

Yeah they SOUND GOOD but either taxpayers or a select group of wealthy taxpayers
will be footing the bill.
"There is NO such thing as a free lunch."
OR a "free education".
I thought everyone understood that our public education system is funded
by TAX DOLLARS.

University educations differ from primary education by costing a lot (for most people).
This is what he's talking about making free.

 

[Draka]

She don't need no gun. That body is killer!

It better be, she's had it nude for enough magazines.

 

[jeager106]

University educations differ from primary education by costing a lot (for most people).
This is what he's talking about making free.

I understand but how "free" could a higher education be?
Who will foot the bill?
I suggest YOU and ME.
(ha! just recalled I don't pay tax any longer. Disabled don'tcha'know) ( police work is dangerous)
( untill I get royalty checks for the gas well just drilled across the street)