To American RFers

[Debater Slayer]

I was reading about Hurricane Ian earlier and thought of RFers living in Florida. I hope you and any other RFers in states affected by hurricanes are all safe out there.

Sending my best wishes from overseas!

 

[pearl]

Very thoughtful of you. I am not in Florida but have a close friend who is. Will be sometime I'm sure before I hear from her as I assume she has lost all power for some time.

 

[Revoltingest]

I really don't understand building homes in
places so often subject to natural disasters.
Billions of dollars of real estate right in the
path of every hurricane & tsunami....

If I really wanted to live there, I'd live in a big RV that
I could tow north at the first forecast of a hurricane.
Solar panels & batteries would provide off-the-grid
power. Homeownership there looks too risky for me.

 

[PureX]

Very thoughtful of you. I am not in Florida but have a close friend who is. Will be sometime I'm sure before I hear from her as I assume she has lost all power for some time.

Yes, I have a nephew and his family down there. I feel the same.

 

[ChristineM]

I understand @Sand Dancer is in the path. Hoping all is well

 

[Debater Slayer]

Very thoughtful of you. I am not in Florida but have a close friend who is. Will be sometime I'm sure before I hear from her as I assume she has lost all power for some time.

Yes, I have a nephew and his family down there. I feel the same.

I hope the friend and the nephew (as well as his family) are both okay and you get to hear from them soon.

 

[Debater Slayer]

I understand @Sand Dancer is in the path. Hoping all is well

I think @KenS might be, too. Hopefully they're both safe and can update us on their situation soon.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

I really don't understand building homes in
places so often subject to natural disasters.
Billions of dollars of real estate right in the
path of every hurricane & tsunami....

If I really wanted to live there, I'd live in a big RV that
I could tow north at the first forecast of a hurricane.
Solar panels & batteries would provide off-the-grid
power. Homeownership there looks too risky for me.

It is not a risk.
It is certain,
Disasters are inevitable.
It would be interesting to know who is the beneficiary.

Or perhaps it is just the ostrich syndrome.

 

[Revoltingest]

It is not a risk.
It is certain,
Disasters are inevitable.
It would be interesting to know who is the beneficiary.

Or perhaps it is just the ostrich syndrome.

I have views on that.
But I'm keeping politics out of this thread.
Suffice to say that we should be wiser in
our policies about building.

 

[Kenny]

I think @KenS might be, too. Hopefully they're both safe and can update us on their situation soon.

Other than our poinciana tree... everything is A OK - thanks for asking!

 

[Debater Slayer]

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Other than our poinciana tree... everything is A OK - thanks for asking!

It's a shame you lost the tree, but it's a relief everyone is safe and nothing else was lost. Thanks for the update!

 

[Sand Dancer]

I understand @Sand Dancer is in the path. Hoping all is well

It hit south of us. We just got power back a bit ago. No damage but lots of trees down and flooding, so we can't get out of our neighborhood.

 

[VoidCat]

The storm is supposed to hit us tonight. Won't be as strong as when it hit flordia tho. My sister who is 3 hours away has lost power and wont have it back for three weeks and it hasnt even made it to NC yet from my understanding. I dont know where the chair here at the group home that was outside went but it's so windy out it's gone.

Currently charging my phone and computer. Will take a shower in just a bit in case power goes out. Saw this warning on my phone dont know how long it's been since its been updated...the bolded part is my doing dont want y'all guys knowing where i live in nc

...TROPICAL STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT...
* LOCATIONS AFFECTED
(I edited this out so no one knows my city)
* WIND
- LATEST LOCAL FORECAST: Below tropical storm force wind
- Peak Wind Forecast: 20-30 mph with gusts to 50 mph
- THREAT TO LIFE AND PROPERTY THAT INCLUDES TYPICAL FORECAST
UNCERTAINTY IN TRACK, SIZE AND INTENSITY: Potential for wind 58
to 73 mph
- The wind threat has remained nearly steady from the
previous assessment.
- PLAN: Plan for dangerous wind of equivalent strong tropical
storm force.
- PREPARE: Remaining efforts to protect life and property
should be completed as soon as possible. Prepare for
significant wind damage.
- ACT: Move to safe shelter before the wind becomes hazardous.
- POTENTIAL IMPACTS: Significant
- Some damage to roofing and siding materials, along with
damage to porches, awnings, carports, and sheds. A few
buildings experiencing window, door, and garage door
failures. Mobile homes damaged, especially if unanchored.
Unsecured lightweight objects become dangerous projectiles.
- Several large trees snapped or uprooted, but with greater
numbers in places where trees are shallow rooted. Several
fences and roadway signs blown over.
- A few roads impassable from large debris, and more within
urban or heavily wooded places. A few bridges, causeways,
and access routes impassable.
- Scattered power and communications outages, but more
prevalent in areas with above ground lines.
* FLOODING RAIN
- LATEST LOCAL FORECAST: Flood Watch is in effect
- Peak Rainfall Amounts: Additional 3-6 inches, with locally
higher amounts
- THREAT TO LIFE AND PROPERTY THAT INCLUDES TYPICAL FORECAST
UNCERTAINTY IN TRACK, SIZE AND INTENSITY: Potential for major
flooding rain
- The flooding rain threat has remained nearly steady from
the previous assessment.
- PLAN: Emergency plans should include the potential for
major flooding from heavy rain. Evacuations and rescues are
likely.
- PREPARE: Strongly consider protective actions, especially
if you are in an area vulnerable to flooding.
- ACT: Heed any flood watches and warnings. Failure to take
action will likely result in serious injury or loss of life.
- POTENTIAL IMPACTS: Extensive
- Major rainfall flooding may prompt many evacuations and
rescues.
- Rivers and tributaries may rapidly overflow their banks in
multiple places. Small streams, creeks, and ditches may
become dangerous rivers. Flood control systems and barriers
may become stressed.
- Flood waters can enter many structures within multiple
communities, some structures becoming uninhabitable or
washed away. Many places where flood waters may cover
escape routes. Streets and parking lots become rivers of
moving water with underpasses submerged. Driving conditions
become dangerous. Many road and bridge closures with some
weakened or washed out

 

[VoidCat]

It hit south of us. We just got power back a bit ago. No damage but lots of trees down and flooding, so we can't get out of our neighborhood.

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Other than our poinciana tree... everything is A OK - thanks for asking!

Im glad yall safe

 

[Wu Wei]

I really don't understand building homes in
places so often subject to natural disasters.
Billions of dollars of real estate right in the
path of every hurricane & tsunami....

If I really wanted to live there, I'd live in a big RV that
I could tow north at the first forecast of a hurricane.
Solar panels & batteries would provide off-the-grid
power. Homeownership there looks too risky for me.

I agree with the motor hoe idea. Once saw an interviewer talking with a lot of folks of a barrier island community after one of the hurricanes that hit Florida. all were understandably upset, but one guy who did not seem as upset as the rest. They asked him why and he said, I retired and moved to Florida, built my house on a barrier island...you have to know if that is where you are going to live that you are going to get knocked off it every now and then."

I agree with that, but the fact is every now and they will be given money to rebuild..and I have no problem with that once or twice...but a half a dozen or more times. That is a bit much on my dime

I have views on that.
But I'm keeping politics out of this thread.
Suffice to say that we should be wiser in
our policies about building.

True... I never understood why the live in New Orleans, which is mostly below sea level, especially after Katrina....but then to not build in areas prone to natural disasters..you should not build near Rivers, especially the Mississippi, in Tornado areas, earthquake zones.... by the way, the last 2 take out most of Texas, California, much of the midwest, and Alaska...oh and don't forget potential Tsunamis... now the East coast, West Coast and Hawaii are off limits. Oh and with ice melt and sea level rising.... all coastal areas would be off limits too....even, potentially, the great lakes...Natural disasters are all over the country, heck we had a hurricane in NYS a few years back, and potentially that could become more frequent. And lest I forget...people live near super volcanoes, Yellowstone,
Long Valley Caldera, and the Valles Caldera...oh wait... if those go off, especially yellowstone...we're all in an area prone to natural disaster


But, admittedly, the Tsunami one, and SUper Volcanoes are much less likely and much less frequent. But if the island of La Palma in the Canary Islands shears off like they think it will...the US east coast could get a rather large tsunami... and I think the floor of Long Valley is raising.

Basically, I don't get it either, but they are going to build in all sorts of places with proven records of disasters, and there are many of them around the USA, not just Florida.

Saw a film once about construction practices in Hurricane prone areas. There are all sorts of things they can do to help cut down on high wind damage and damage from flying debris...but storm surges are a different animal all together.

 

[VoidCat]

The storm is supposed to hit us tonight. Won't be as strong as when it hit flordia tho. My sister who is 3 hours away has lost power and wont have it back for three weeks and it hasnt even made it to NC yet from my understanding. I dont know where the chair here at the group home that was outside went but it's so windy out it's gone.

Currently charging my phone and computer. Will take a shower in just a bit in case power goes out. Saw this warning on my phone dont know how long it's been since its been updated...the bolded part is my doing dont want y'all guys knowing where i live in nc

Power is out just went off

 

[Debater Slayer]

Power is out just went off

Hope you stay safe and nothing gets damaged.

 

[Debater Slayer]

It hit south of us. We just got power back a bit ago. No damage but lots of trees down and flooding, so we can't get out of our neighborhood.

I'm glad you're safe!

 

[VoidCat]

Hope you stay safe and nothing gets damaged.

Well i dont know if anything is damaged but the chair is gone. Usually when that chair gets knocked over by the wind it is still in the yard. It's completely gone no sign of it.


I hope nothing gets damaged

 

[Revoltingest]

I agree with the motor hoe idea.

A "motor hoe"....what will technology bring us next, eh.

BTW, I say that a truck + RV trailer is a better combination.
Not as fancy, but servicing a truck is far easier & cheaper.
And the truck serves the purpose of a car once the trailer
is parked. Also, in MI, there's no yearly trailer license fee.

Once saw an interviewer talking with a lot of folks of a barrier island community after one of the hurricanes that hit Florida. all were understandably upset, but one guy who did not seem as upset as the rest. They asked him why and he said, I retired and moved to Florida, built my house on a barrier island...you have to know if that is where you are going to live that you are going to get knocked off it every now and then."

I agree with that, but the fact is every now and they will be given money to rebuild..and I have no problem with that once or twice...but a half a dozen or more times. That is a bit much on my dime



True... I never understood why the live in New Orleans, which is mostly below sea level, especially after Katrina....but then to not build in areas prone to natural disasters..you should not build near Rivers, especially the Mississippi, in Tornado areas, earthquake zones.... by the way, the last 2 take out most of Texas, California, much of the midwest, and Alaska...oh and don't forget potential Tsunamis... now the East coast, West Coast and Hawaii are off limits. Oh and with ice melt and sea level rising.... all coastal areas would be off limits too....even, potentially, the great lakes...Natural disasters are all over the country, heck we had a hurricane in NYS a few years back, and potentially that could become more frequent. And lest I forget...people live near super volcanoes, Yellowstone,
Long Valley Caldera, and the Valles Caldera...oh wait... if those go off, especially yellowstone...we're all in an area prone to natural disaster


But, admittedly, the Tsunami one, and SUper Volcanoes are much less likely and much less frequent. But if the island of La Palma in the Canary Islands shears off like they think it will...the US east coast could get a rather large tsunami... and I think the floor of Long Valley is raising.

Basically, I don't get it either, but they are going to build in all sorts of places with proven records of disasters, and there are many of them around the USA, not just Florida.

Saw a film once about construction practices in Hurricane prone areas. There are all sorts of things they can do to help cut down on high wind damage and damage from flying debris...but storm surges are a different animal all together.

I say just don't build below sea level.
Are you listening, ya cheese under the fingernails Dutch?