To those who understand enlightenment

[kaat]

THAT THIS THREAD has re-awakened is very encouraging. Let's continue.

 

[MysticSang'ha]

Because it doesn't touch my logic.

Okie-dokie.

 

[sojourner]

It may be unfortunate that you won't at least read the last few posts.

I did. It was unfortunate that I did so.

 

[kaat]

I did. It was unfortunate that I did so.

How so?

 

[kaat]

That this thread has slowed down again is very encouraging. Let's continue.

 

[sojourner]

The previous page was not cogent to the OP in any way.

 

[kaat]

The previous page was not cogent to the OP in any way.

Are you addressing me at all? If so, I'm waiting for my logic to be broken.

 

[kaat]

QUIETER STILL.

Most atheists know the implications of this.

E.G.: One couldn't possibly prove, logically, what type of belief is THE RIGHT one to have? Could one?

Since YOU are not realizing it, I believe all I need to do, is put this whole thing in front of a top-flight logic expert.

If anyone can do this soon, please do it. I can't be bothered to - YET.

 

[MysticSang'ha]

QUIETER STILL.

Most atheists know the implications of this.

E.G.: One couldn't possibly prove, logically, what type of belief is THE RIGHT one to have? Could one?

Since YOU are not realizing it, I believe all I need to do, is put this whole thing in front of a top-flight logic expert.

If anyone can do this soon, please do it. I can't be bothered too - YET.

I suggest contacting our member Jayhawker Soule, then.

 

[sojourner]

Are you addressing me at all? If so, I'm waiting for my logic to be broken.

I was answering post #184.
My first statement still stands. Enlightenment isn't about the attaining of a goal. It's about the journey. The OP seems to me to be goal-oriented.

 

[kaat]

I suggest contacting our member Jayhawker Soule, then.

May I urge YOU to do that? It's just that your voice is louder than mine, at the moment. Thanks.

 

[kaat]

I was answering post #184.
My first statement still stands. Enlightenment isn't about the attaining of a goal. It's about the journey. The OP seems to me to be goal-oriented.

I do beg your pardon. And I do agree, the "OP" (is that a code-word?) IS goal-orientated. There is no choice.

 

[kaat]

Although I have been up for 24 hours now, I have NOT broken my priority sequence of health, life's goals, other goals. Because I could die, satisfied, NOW. So why not solidify my life's goals with whatever time I have left?

And I just forgot something ... I HAVE TO CONTINUE anyway.

Oh right. I'm doing exactly what I want.

Basically, I realized, I should NOT leave "The Moment" now, even to sleep.

Further, if you would like an illustration of my supreme imperfection: I am a heavy smoker, and I still have not quit. Ouch.

 

[kaat]

I just solved a problem with two sentences. At our apartment building, everyone knows we are all dropping garbage, all over where we live, and nobody cares (cared) to do anything.

I suggested to the super, that he move ONE, large, obvious garbage can, if only temporarily, to an inconveniently obvious spot. He objected once, and has now done that.

>> I'm going to extend this. Of course, the idea isn't perfect. But I have realized that it doesn't matter. Some of you are now thinking that I have understood YOUR point. I have not. Because the super is prepared to FIX that garbage can in place. Which is REALLY going to show us the nature of our world.

And *I* KNOW, that those who don't already believe they know everything, will comply. QED.

 

[kaat]

I think this thread just became blissfully quiet. And I do not mean that it died. If you do not agree, I suggest finding someone that can understand, and object.

I may as well relax for a while.

Oh yeah; that's exactly what I want to do.

>> Sorry. I really wanted to perfect this post.

My Clarion Call:

Go forth, and do the right thing. Forget about ME. To consider <delete>ANYONE</delete> (correction) ANY HUMAN special, is not a good idea.

 

[kaat]

Presumably, the board's logic guru will respond within a few days. If anyone knows that this will NOT happen, please enlighten me. I do not want to lose *interest* in this thread.

Phew. It IS hard, going it alone.

P.S.: I suggest the 'organization' could be called, first, "The New United Nations". Then later, "The New United States". And later still, it could become "THE Government", or, possibly, scrapped altogether. Well, not really, but you see my point.

 

[kaat]

Damn. Because I cannot be sure about the logic guru (I cannot even be sure anyone is even reading any more, lol), I MUST begin to arrange it myself. So be it.

 

[sojourner]

I do beg your pardon. And I do agree, the "OP" (is that a code-word?) IS goal-orientated. There is no choice.

The assertion made in the opening post seems to say that enlightenment is a goal-oriented activity, rather than a process-oriented activity. I was merely pointing out the obvious mistake in how the work toward becoming enlightened was conceptualized in that opening statement. Sheesh.

 

[kaat]

The assertion made in the opening post seems to say that enlightenment is a goal-oriented activity, rather than a process-oriented activity. I was merely pointing out the obvious mistake in how the work toward becoming enlightened was conceptualized in that opening statement. Sheesh.

Can you argue against my case, LOGICALLY?

I know. It's okay. Right now, THAT'S the only thing I'm concerned about.

 

[kaat]

ANOTHER EXAMPLE

Right now, you (might) believe, that any CHAIN, with a weak link, will always break.

This is wrong.

Suppose the good parts of the chain decided to "re-inforce" the weak part?

QED