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To those who understand enlightenment
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kaat
Storm Animal
Yes. I mentioned that my one remaining desire is to do the right thing. Do you understand that I am in no way moved to feel your way is the right thing?
Jeremy Mason
Well-Known Member
Zenzero, would you consider yourself to be of a Hindu or budist(sp?) persuasion?
kaat
Storm Animal
Ooh! Ooh! I know!
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zenzero
Its only a Label
Friend Jeremy Mason,
Any case myself do not have an answere to that.
Evolution takes one through various spaces through time and so there can be no one definte path and each religion is someways connected somewhere or atleast the last would have to be the same for sure.
am part of that evolution through which is in this present form.
Love & rgds
Friend Kaat knows the answere as he responded:
Any case myself do not have an answere to that.
Evolution takes one through various spaces through time and so there can be no one definte path and each religion is someways connected somewhere or atleast the last would have to be the same for sure.
am part of that evolution through which is in this present form.
Love & rgds
kaat
Storm Animal
To be perfectly honest, ANYTHING you would have said would have made sense to me, at this point, do you see?
kaat
Storm Animal
Perhaps everyone can't reach the site? I hope you'll try to answer new questions, like this one, and I'm sorry to mix patterns, as it were:
(I sincerely apologize if you are visually challenged)
You have eyes to see with, which connect with YOUR amazing brain (that you have already disabled - you told me so), to allow YOU to make interpretations of what you see. I assume, then, that you have also had your eyes surgically removed? Because *they* would be one major distraction if you haven't.
Of course I know you haven't!
If your answer is along the lines of: I can ignore my eyes when I need to, then:
That's fantastic! Seriously. I find the exact same thing. My best example is my walking meditations; IF I try using an UNKNOWN path for the walking, I find meditation is almost impossible - beacause my eyes keep alerting me to where I'm going. If I use my usual, oval-shaped walking pattern, on my usual patch of grass, all is well.
IF SO, I WAS NOT RIGHT on this point. It's progress. You are one step closer to showing how I am wrong. I am PERFECTLY willing to discover I am completely wrong, in total. I have my proof, but if nobody gets it, I have no proof!
(I sincerely apologize if you are visually challenged)
You have eyes to see with, which connect with YOUR amazing brain (that you have already disabled - you told me so), to allow YOU to make interpretations of what you see. I assume, then, that you have also had your eyes surgically removed? Because *they* would be one major distraction if you haven't.
Of course I know you haven't!
If your answer is along the lines of: I can ignore my eyes when I need to, then:
That's fantastic! Seriously. I find the exact same thing. My best example is my walking meditations; IF I try using an UNKNOWN path for the walking, I find meditation is almost impossible - beacause my eyes keep alerting me to where I'm going. If I use my usual, oval-shaped walking pattern, on my usual patch of grass, all is well.
IF SO, I WAS NOT RIGHT on this point. It's progress. You are one step closer to showing how I am wrong. I am PERFECTLY willing to discover I am completely wrong, in total. I have my proof, but if nobody gets it, I have no proof!
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kaat
Storm Animal
**** DEFINITELY AN IMPORTANT POST ****
I've realized that I can say this accurately:
AS SOON as *I* realize it, I will stop and apologize. To whom? And about what?
That I didn't realize it before.
- HUH? - apologize to WHO!!??
That you were already doing the right thing.
- Who was?
YOU. ANYBODY.
- And how do I know this? Because you also understand this, very quickly.
<<QED>>
Do you get THIS? ANYONE!!!???
(and does ANYONE understand why I cannot change my TYPE SIZES, AFTER I've POSTED?)
Knowing that you DO understand this, *I* know you will be enjoying the results.
(it's odd that I couldn't get both asterisks to be orange, easily, there. But it makes sense).
AT THE END OF MY PREVIOUS POST, I offered a way, whereby I will HAVE to apologize.
I BELIEVE THIS LOGIC IS UNTOUCHABLE.
(I did tell you I am a handful)
Please, everyone, DO YOUR BEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- to dispute my logic.
And thus, YOU'RE RIGHT; *I* HAVE, indeed, finished. This time I'm addressing you, zenzero. And know that I will only be apologizing to YOU, because it's STILL the right thing to do! LOL.
.
.
.
AND FINALLY, TO ABSOLUTELY *ANYONE*: *I* KNOW my goal is good. I've gone and done it now.
I've realized that I can say this accurately:
AS SOON as *I* realize it, I will stop and apologize. To whom? And about what?
That I didn't realize it before.
- HUH? - apologize to WHO!!??
That you were already doing the right thing.
- Who was?
YOU. ANYBODY.
- And how do I know this? Because you also understand this, very quickly.
<<QED>>
Do you get THIS? ANYONE!!!???
(and does ANYONE understand why I cannot change my TYPE SIZES, AFTER I've POSTED?)
Knowing that you DO understand this, *I* know you will be enjoying the results.
(it's odd that I couldn't get both asterisks to be orange, easily, there. But it makes sense).
AT THE END OF MY PREVIOUS POST, I offered a way, whereby I will HAVE to apologize.
I BELIEVE THIS LOGIC IS UNTOUCHABLE.
(I did tell you I am a handful)
Please, everyone, DO YOUR BEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- to dispute my logic.
And thus, YOU'RE RIGHT; *I* HAVE, indeed, finished. This time I'm addressing you, zenzero. And know that I will only be apologizing to YOU, because it's STILL the right thing to do! LOL.
.
.
.
AND FINALLY, TO ABSOLUTELY *ANYONE*: *I* KNOW my goal is good. I've gone and done it now.
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sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Haven't read the whole thread, and don't intend to. But it strikes me that the OP is too goal-oriented. In spiritual enlightenment, the journey, or process, is more important than the attainment.
And the journey is never-ending. Hence, this takes us back to the importance of awareness.....
zenzero
Its only a Label
TO all my friends here and everywhere,
Fear not anyone and walk along.
you are not seperated from me or from anything on earth and the whole of existence.
Each of you are enlightened but only to realise and act in the fashion is what is waiting since eternity for you.
Whom do you apologies?
who is listening?
It is you to start and end with BUT the only difference is that YOU is only a part of the WHOLE.
Love & rgds
Fear not anyone and walk along.
you are not seperated from me or from anything on earth and the whole of existence.
Each of you are enlightened but only to realise and act in the fashion is what is waiting since eternity for you.
Whom do you apologies?
who is listening?
It is you to start and end with BUT the only difference is that YOU is only a part of the WHOLE.
Love & rgds
kaat
Storm Animal
It may be unfortunate that you won't at least read the last few posts.
kaat
Storm Animal
And the journey is never-ending. Hence, this takes us back to the importance of awareness.....
I do not know what you just said. But it sounds unfortunate to me.
kaat
Storm Animal
I was aware of that...
Doesn't this mean you should be helping me?
How so?
kaat
Storm Animal
I cannot dispute this post.
kaat
Storm Animal
Because it doesn't touch my logic.