To You: What do the following verses of Christ mean?

[Christian Gnosis]

Are they speaking of the Jewish law and the religion of Judaism?

Luke 5:36 He told them this parable: "No one tears a patch from a new garment and sews it on an old one. If he does, he will have torn the new garment, and the patch from the new will not match the old. 37 And no one pours new wine into old wineskins. If he does, the new wine will burst the skins, the wine will run out and the wineskins will be ruined.

 

[Breathe]

DIR, sorry.

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[angellous_evangellous]

Are they speaking of the Jewish law and the religion of Judaism?

Luke 5:36 He told them this parable: "No one tears a patch from a new garment and sews it on an old one. If he does, he will have torn the new garment, and the patch from the new will not match the old. 37 And no one pours new wine into old wineskins. If he does, the new wine will burst the skins, the wine will run out and the wineskins will be ruined.

Yes, I think that these verses do.

Luke is the great affirmer of Paul's ministry, and by the time Luke and Acts had been written, the schism between Judaism and Pauline Christianity was complete. The wisdom in the verse, I believe, is one of regret.... it's an expression lamenting the failure of Paul's great vision: to unite Jews and Gentiles under a Judeo-Greek religion/philosophy.

 

[Gaura Priya]

Are they speaking of the Jewish law and the religion of Judaism?

Luke 5:36 He told them this parable: "No one tears a patch from a new garment and sews it on an old one. If he does, he will have torn the new garment, and the patch from the new will not match the old. 37 And no one pours new wine into old wineskins. If he does, the new wine will burst the skins, the wine will run out and the wineskins will be ruined.

To me, it is about the new Dispensation of Christ, being the fulfillment of the Law of God, and renewing that Covenant rather than continuing with the Old Covenant of sacrificing animals for the expiation of sin.

 

[Christian Gnosis]

To me, it is about the new Dispensation of Christ, being the fulfillment of the Law of God, and renewing that Covenant rather than continuing with the Old Covenant of sacrificing animals for the expiation of sin.

Well you're free to take that view, but truly enough, the animal sacrifice thing is way over-exaggerated by many. The Jews weren't above believing in repentance without sacrifice.

 

[Gaura Priya]

Well you're free to take that view, but truly enough, the animal sacrifice thing is way over-exaggerated by many. The Jews weren't above believing in repentance without sacrifice.

I actually take the extremist view that Jehovah never ever liked meat-eating or killing animals; He instituted animal sacrifices because of the hardness of men's hearts and their thirst to eat meat, and through the sacrifice of Jesus, abolished the barbaric practice. In the earthly and heavenly Paradise which is promised by God, there will not be any meat eating or killing, via Isaiah.

This position was in the Clementine writings, and was purportedly followed also by the Essenes and the Nazoreans.

 

[james2ko]

Are they speaking of the Jewish law and the religion of Judaism?

Luke 5:36 He told them this parable: "No one tears a patch from a new garment and sews it on an old one. If he does, he will have torn the new garment, and the patch from the new will not match the old. 37 And no one pours new wine into old wineskins. If he does, the new wine will burst the skins, the wine will run out and the wineskins will be ruined.

Jesus' illustration derives from a well-known fact: No one with a reasonable amount of experience in mending clothes would waste a piece of new cloth to repair an old garment. If new cloth is used to patch an old garment, and the patch becomes wet, it shrinks as it dries and puts strain on the old garment. The tear becomes worse than it was.

Jesus is showing that His "new" doctrines do not match the old rites of the Pharisees. If His "new" doctrines were attached to their old ones, it would distort the truth. Christ is preaching against syncretism, the mixing of beliefs.

 

[Thesavorofpan]

Are they speaking of the Jewish law and the religion of Judaism?

Luke 5:36 He told them this parable: "No one tears a patch from a new garment and sews it on an old one. If he does, he will have torn the new garment, and the patch from the new will not match the old. 37 And no one pours new wine into old wineskins. If he does, the new wine will burst the skins, the wine will run out and the wineskins will be ruined.

I always thought it meant that it was to get rid of the old sinful body and began anew as a redeem christian.

 

[Christian Gnosis]

I always thought it meant that it was to get rid of the old sinful body and began anew as a redeem christian.

I suppose there are many ways one could take it.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

If Judaism or Jewish Law refers to the old wineskins and the new wine in new wineskins as a new teaching, why does Jesus say in Luke 5:39: "And no one wants new wine after drinking old wine. 'The old is better' he says."?

 

[Christian Gnosis]

If Judaism or Jewish Law refers to the old wineskins and the new wine in new wineskins as a new teaching, why does Jesus say in Luke 5:39: "And no one wants new wine after drinking old wine. 'The old is better' he says."?

He is referring to the fact that the Jews cannot come to him, because they're still hooked on the old wine. Jesus knew most of them would reject him, as he points out many times.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Thanks Pagan Buddhist, I get it now. I just so literally enjoy and prefer aged wine over new that it confused me as to the correct metaphorical meaning.

 

[Ben Masada]

Are they speaking of the Jewish law and the religion of Judaism?

Luke 5:36 He told them this parable: "No one tears a patch from a new garment and sews it on an old one. If he does, he will have torn the new garment, and the patch from the new will not match the old. 37 And no one pours new wine into old wineskins. If he does, the new wine will burst the skins, the wine will run out and the wineskins will be ruined.

Yes, they are speaking of the Pauline policy of Replacement Theology, which is against the Law and the religion of Judaism.