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Torah and the Bible

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Unveiled Artist

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I remember threads back something someone practicing Judaism, said. He says that the Torah is misinterpreted by Christians by being the Same five first books as the Christian Bible. He says that that is not true; hence, why Christianity isn't a spin off of Judaism. Also, because they are completely separate faiths.

What makes the first five books in the Original Torah different than that in the Christian Bible?

(I'm not scripture literate. Some words I can pick up but wont know detailed history)
 
Tumah

Tumah

Veteran Member
Torah can variably mean the Pentatuech, the entire Jewish cannon or the Jewish cannon plus the Oral Torah.

Maybe the poster you are quoting was referring to the order of later Books whose order are switched around in the Christian cannon?
Maybe the poster was making a general statement about Christian translations of the Torah?

Why don't you just ask the poster what he meant?
 
metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Carlita said:
I remember threads back something someone practicing Judaism, said. He says that the Torah is misinterpreted by Christians by being the Same five first books as the Christian Bible. He says that that is not true; hence, why Christianity isn't a spin off of Judaism. Also, because they are completely separate faiths.

What makes the first five books in the Original Torah different than that in the Christian Bible?

(I'm not scripture literate. Some words I can pick up but wont know detailed history)
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There really is no significant difference, although there can be some minor differences between translations. Also, Christianity is a spin-off from Judaism, and there is really not any doubt about that.
 
Tumah

Tumah

Veteran Member
Oh, maybe he was referring to the different position that the Pentateuch is given in Judaism.
The Pentateuch is the only Book that contains Commandments. Anything in the other Books can only be an extension or description of something already commanded in the Pentateuch. No prophet other than Moses can establish anything new.
 
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Desert Snake

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Carlita said:
I remember threads back something someone practicing Judaism, said. He says that the Torah is misinterpreted by Christians by being the Same five first books as the Christian Bible. He says that that is not true; hence, why Christianity isn't a spin off of Judaism. Also, because they are completely separate faiths.

What makes the first five books in the Original Torah different than that in the Christian Bible?

(I'm not scripture literate. Some words I can pick up but wont know detailed history)
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Xianity and Judaism adhere to different prophets. That would be the usual misunderstanding that Xians might have.
 
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Desert Snake

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Tumah said:
Oh, maybe he was referring to the different position that the Pentateuch is given in Judaism.
The Pentateuch is the only Book that contains Commandments. Anything in the other Books can only be an extension or description of something already commanded in the Pentateuch. No prophet other than Moses can establish anything new.
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I would wager it has to do with the prophet list.
 
Akivah

Akivah

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Carlita said:
What makes the first five books in the Original Torah different than that in the Christian Bible?
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Perhaps, the poster was referring to the Christian proof texts. Proof texts are verses in the Christian bible that purport to back their claims for their man. But when compared to the Original Testament, all these proof texts are misinterpreted, ripped out of context, or completely made up.
 
metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Akivah said:
Perhaps, the poster was referring to the Christian proof texts. Proof texts are verses in the Christian bible that purport to back their claims for their man. But when compared to the Original Testament, all these proof texts are misinterpreted, ripped out of context, or completely made up.
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Amen.
 
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Desert Snake

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*Jerimiah, as well, as I thought, and Baruch. Otherwise, they are the same except for the book of Daniel, for the protestants.

ie the Orthodox and Catholics
 
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Desert Snake

Veteran Member
Akivah said:
Perhaps, the poster was referring to the Christian proof texts. Proof texts are verses in the Christian bible that purport to back their claims for their man. But when compared to the Original Testament, all these proof texts are misinterpreted, ripped out of context, or completely made up.
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To be fair, even Josephus had some interesting ''ideas''..
 
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Tumah

Tumah

Veteran Member
disciple said:
*Jerimiah, as well, as I thought, and Baruch. Otherwise, they are the same except for the book of Daniel, for the protestants.

ie the Orthodox and Catholics have Baruch/Jeremiah.
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We have Jeremiah too.
Baruch, Maccabees, Hebrews, Tobit, Judith are all books that are not in our Cannon.
 
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