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Total atomic annihilation?

an anarchist

Your local loco.
Do you think most if not all of us are gonna die from nuclear war?

If Russia and the USA started nuking each other, how would the rest of the world fare?

All religious eschatology goes out the window if we all die.

Anyways, I wanted to get your guy's thoughts on this: is nuclear war going to happen?

It is a very real threat. I think a lot of people have it on the back burner of their mind. I mean, what can you do, right? I guess become a prepper.
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
Do you think most if not all of us are gonna die from nuclear war?

If Russia and the USA started nuking each other, how would the rest of the world fare?

All religious eschatology goes out the window if we all die.

Anyways, I wanted to get your guy's thoughts on this: is nuclear war going to happen?

It is a very real threat. I think a lot of people have it on the back burner of their mind. I mean, what can you do, right? I guess become a prepper.
Unlikely. But a time for cool heads in NATO and the US.

What a good thing Trump is not president!
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
It is a very real threat. I think a lot of people have it on the back burner of their mind. I mean, what can you do, right? I guess become a prepper.
The best preparation against dying in a nuclear war is a ticket to Australia or New Zealand. Most of the war will take place in the northern hemisphere and that is where most of the radioactive dust will settle. When all of nature on a continent wants to kill you or some crazy humans with nukes, avoid the humans.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
Do you think most if not all of us are gonna die from nuclear war?

If Russia and the USA started nuking each other, how would the rest of the world fare?

All religious eschatology goes out the window if we all die.

Anyways, I wanted to get your guy's thoughts on this: is nuclear war going to happen?

It is a very real threat. I think a lot of people have it on the back burner of their mind. I mean, what can you do, right? I guess become a prepper.

We don't know the probability of nuclear war happening, so stop thinking about it and if you live anywhere close or in the likely target zones, there is nothing you can do about as a prepper.
Now if you can get to the southern hemisphere, get a group together and organize then yes, you could make it. But in worst case you have to plan for a couple of years with extreme weather, because of nuclear winter.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I don't think all humans would likely die but there's a very likely chance somewhere along the line there'll be a strategic nuclear war. After all, the U.S. already used them, lest we forget.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
Anyways, I wanted to get your guy's thoughts on this: is nuclear war going to happen?
I have not seen Hollywood movies about nuclear war and how it will go. So, I guess US have not planned it yet.

BUT it needs just 1 fool to start it and press that big red button

I pray I get to know 4 weeks in advance
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
A few tactical, nuclear shells or cruise missiles are unlikely to annihilate the human species. That's not to say they won't escalate things considerably, or even become a generalized nuclear conflict.
Hopefully, a mad Putin will be overridden by cooler heads, should it come to that.
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
I have not seen Hollywood movies about nuclear war and how it will go. So, I guess US have not planned it yet.

BUT it needs just 1 fool to start it and press that big red button

I pray I get to know 4 weeks in advance
I believe the USA has run a number of wargame scenarios involving Russia, the USA, and NATO, for this particular situation. Not sure that any one of them came through as the best though, and as pointed out, escalation is quite likely, especially if Putin stays in control.

Best not to dwell on all this, given we can't really do anything. But then at my age that isn't so horrible. If we get through this, I hope those younger would insist that all nuclear weapons are consigned to history - along with anything of similar capability. Given we can't really afford to play dice with the future of humanity. :oops:
 

PureX

Veteran Member
A few tactical, nuclear shells or cruise missiles are unlikely to annihilate the human species. That's not to say they won't escalate things considerably, or even become a generalized nuclear conflict.
Hopefully, a mad Putin will be overridden by cooler heads, should it come to that.
If he used nukes on Ukraine, the fallout would be blown back across Russia by the prevailing wind direction. So I think it's very unlikely that he would use them.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Nope.

All nuclear war does (and more more generally) is lay bare structural problems with how human civilization is set up at present. It isn't the nukes themselves that would be responsible for the vast majority of deaths. The cascade effects - like mass starvation - would be. That can be kicked off by any sufficient disruption to the structures of a civilization. It's happened many times in the past, and it will happen many times in the future until humanity's inevitable extinction.
 

It Aint Necessarily So

Veteran Member
Premium Member
what can you do, right?

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ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
If he used nukes on Ukraine, the fallout would be blown back across Russia by the prevailing wind direction. So I think it's very unlikely that he would use them.


Maybe, maybe not, take a look at the Chernobyl radiation cloud map,

And the leak that was suspected to come from Mayak.

Both blew east to west.
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Unlikely. But a time for cool heads in NATO and the US.

What a good thing Trump is not president!
On the contrary, if Trump were President we probably wouldn't be on this precipice. But if we were he would be less likely to stumble into a war. Unlike Biden who is a well known stumbler. The sort of people that think Trump would be more likely to get into a war said the same thing before he was elected and during his Administration. Yet he didn't start any wars.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
On the contrary, if Trump were President we probably wouldn't be on this precipice. But if we were he would be less likely to stumble into a war. Unlike Biden who is a well known stumbler. The sort of people that think Trump would be more likely to get into a war said the same thing before he was elected and during his Administration. Yet he didn't start any wars.

Though he did get uppity with NK and Iran
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Though he did get uppity with NK and Iran
And there were those Abraham accords which made reduced tensions.

Don't forget, it was Obama/Biden who emboldened Putin by letting him have Crimea and gave Iran a guaranteed path to gain nuclear weapons. Then there was their part in the war in Syria. Biden is a peace disaster.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
And there were those Abraham accords which made reduced tensions.

Don't forget, it was Obama/Biden who emboldened Putin by letting him have Crimea and gave Iran a guaranteed path to gain nuclear weapons. Then there was their part in the war in Syria. Biden is a peace disaster.

Why do you change the subject? The fact remains that trump made the threats
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
On the contrary, if Trump were President we probably wouldn't be on this precipice. But if we were he would be less likely to stumble into a war. Unlike Biden who is a well known stumbler. The sort of people that think Trump would be more likely to get into a war said the same thing before he was elected and during his Administration. Yet he didn't start any wars.
Trump is mad, driven by narcissism and does not listen to rational advice from experts. He'd be catastrophically dangerous in this situation.

For a start, he would not care a damn about the fate of Ukraine. And we already know he does not care a damn about the fate of Europe.
 

Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Do you think most if not all of us are gonna die from nuclear war?

If Russia and the USA started nuking each other, how would the rest of the world fare?

All religious eschatology goes out the window if we all die.

Anyways, I wanted to get your guy's thoughts on this: is nuclear war going to happen?

It is a very real threat. I think a lot of people have it on the back burner of their mind. I mean, what can you do, right? I guess become a prepper.
A video about how to survive a nuclear ballistic attack on your city:
 
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Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Why do you change the subject? The fact remains that trump made the threats
You mean when he called them semi-Facists? No, wait. That's what Biden called his fellow Americans.
No, Trump isn't the one that makes unbridled threats.
 

The Sum of Awe

Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
Staff member
Premium Member
So do you all think this will actually happen or not? I'm honestly pretty terrified because of all the talk about it.
 
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