Bro Rando
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Who said? Why would the Hebrew scriptures contain a name that was not to be uttered?
Why would Moses ask for God's name and be told to tell it to the Israelites as the name they should mention forever in all their generations, if it was forbidden to be spoken? That is utter nonsense.
To proud Pharaoh God said through Moses....."But for this very reason I have kept you in existence: to show you my power and to have my name declared in all the earth."
Jesus said of his disciples...."I have made your name known to them and will make it known, so that the love with which you loved me may be in them and I in union with them.”
In the Lord's prayer what is one of the first things that Jesus teaches us to pray for?
"Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name".
The reason why the divine name slipped out of use among the Jews (long before the first century,) was more likely because they were want to making frivolous oaths in Jehovah's name, thereby breaking the 4th Commandment of taking the Lord's name in vain. Instead of working on the problem of not bringing God's name into disrepute by their word and actions, they chose instead to stop saying it. You can't be convicted of taking God's name in vain, if you never use it. Right?
"Jehovah" is the English translation of the name of God. The pronunciation of the four consonants of the Divine Name, YHWH, was lost because of the Jewish custom of not saying it even though it was written in the Hebrew text. They would substitute the title "LORD" (Adonai) every time the scriptures were read.There was no command from God to refrain from using his name as the Bible writers did freely and reverently.
It has been suggested by some Jewish scholars that "Yahweh" is probably close to the way it was pronounced (a transliteration) but they cannot be sure. Despite that fact, we know what YHWH means in English because it was revealed to Moses in Exodus 3:13-15, and it retains its meaning in English ( I Will Be What I Will Be) as does the name of Jesus. You don't call Jesus by his Hebrew name yet you believe that he is God. Why balk at God's name in English if you use the name Jesus? Do you wish to change all the "J" names in the Bible? Most of them incorporate Jehovah's name. So to my way of thinking that is a weak argument.
If all else fails character assassination works...right? No one is better at character assassination than an "ex" with an axe to grind.
"A Greek master text of the Christian Greek Scriptures that attained wide acceptance is that produced in 1881 by Cambridge University scholars B. F. Westcott and F. J. A. Hort. It was the product of 28 years of independent labor, though they compared notes regularly. Like Griesbach, they divided manuscripts into families and leaned heavily on what they termed the “neutral text,” which included the renowned Sinaitic Manuscript and the Vatican Manuscript No. 1209, both of the fourth century C.E. While Westcott and Hort viewed matters as quite conclusive when these manuscripts agreed and especially when they were supported by other ancient uncial manuscripts, they were not bound to that position. They took every conceivable factor into consideration in endeavoring to solve problems presented by conflicting texts; and when two readings were of equal weight, that, too, was indicated in their master text. The Westcott and Hort text was the one used principally in translating the Christian Greek Scriptures into English in the New World Translation."
Manuscripts of the Bible — Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY
Is that what they did? Or did they merely put God's name back into the scriptures that the Bible writers used when the OT was quoted in the NT?
Please provide these errors and lets see how they stack up.
This should prove helpful....
A5 The Divine Name in the Christian Greek Scriptures — Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY
JW's are not Arians, even though we are not trinitarians.
"In one of the few writings of Arius that has survived, he claims that God is beyond comprehension, even for the Son. In line with this, historian H. M. Gwatkin states in his book The Arian Controversy: “The God of Arius is an unknown God, whose being is hidden in eternal mystery. No creature can reveal him, and he cannot reveal himself.” Jehovah’s Witnesses worship neither the “incomprehensible” God of the Trinitarians nor the “unknown God” of Arius. They say, with the apostle Paul: “There is actually to us one God the Father, out of whom all things are.”—1 Corinthians 8:6."
“We Worship What We Know” — Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY
So yes, please share them.....I am sure that if we can explore these pro-trinitarian verses we will see something interesting.
The purpose of a translation is to make the text easy to read and understand to the generation to whom it is provided. Personally, I began my Bible study with JW's using my old KJV. I still saw the truth very clearly but the archaic English was a real hindrance. There was no NWT back then. I still compare translations even today. I have not found the NWT to ever be in error once I researched the meanings of original language words and their use in other parts of the Bible. I am a Bible student and have been for 46 years.
Word for word translations do not really exist because phraseology is very different in many languages and the meanings of words themselves change over time. We will put the NWT to the test and see if it is accurate or not.
Fire away.....provide your examples, but be prepared to receive some back.
Yes, I agree, but who is guilty of this.....lets explore.
(John 17:22) is part of a prayer Jesus was praying to his God and Father. The analogy I would use is when a couple get married they become one flesh figuratively, it is not literal. The two are not literally one flesh are they?
"I have given them the glory that you have given me, in order that they may be One just as we are One."
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