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I'm not really a big trinity authority, but I think the concept is just different views of the same god, not three seperate things. some people may refer to that as a godhead, but godhead in my view is a concept of three seperate beings. They are not just three views of one god. They are seperate and distinct, though united it purpose.Maize said:Well, the Unitarian is going to say neither.![]()
Isn't the Trinity and the Godhead the same concept?
If you say that God is one, isn't that the trinity? Doesn't that make you beleive that God, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost are one God, but just different views or facets of the same God?Jensen said:I'd say neither...God is one.
give the support, and tell how that means it's a trinity, and not a godhead.Mister Emu said:The trinity is fully supported by the Bible.
Aqualung said:I'm not really a big trinity authority, but I think the concept is just different views of the same god, not three seperate things. some people may refer to that as a godhead, but godhead in my view is a concept of three seperate beings. They are not just three views of one god. They are seperate and distinct, though united it purpose.
In Christianity, the Godhead is a unit consisting of God the Father, God the Son (Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit. Though often used interchangeably with the concept of Trinity, the word Godhead is itself a word that simply means "godhood" and, thus, it is erroneous to use it as synonymous with the English word "trinity." In those English translations of the Bible that use "Godhead," such as the King James Bible, there are only three passages of scripture where it is used - Acts 17:29; Romans 1:20; and Colossians 2:9 - and each time it is used, it is translated from a different Greek word: theios (godlike, divinity), theiotes (divinity, divine nature), and theotes (deity, divinity), respectively.
The nature of the Godhead is defined differently among different Christian denominations. In most branches of Christianity, including Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy and most of Protestantism, trinitarianism prevails and the Godhead is viewed as the Holy Trinity, and so the word Godhead is often used interchangeably with Trinity.
We like to use the word, Triune, or Triunity, instead of Trinity. I don't like that word myself. As I see it, Trinity deals with 3 Gods, while Triunity deals with 3 Gods as 1 God.Aqualung said:give the support, and tell how that means it's a trinity, and not a godhead.
How so, Mister Emu? Where does the Bible describe God as a substance?Mister Emu said:The trinity is fully supported by the Bible.
No, the "Godhead" is the Biblical term used to describe the unity of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. The "Trinity" is the term devised in 325 A.D. to describe the way in which the Father, Son and Holy Ghost are united.Maize said:Well, the Unitarian is going to say neither.![]()
Isn't the Trinity and the Godhead the same concept?
Katzpur said:No, the "Godhead" is the Biblical term used to describe the unity of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. The "Trinity" is the term devised in 325 A.D. to describe the way in which the Father, Son and Holy Ghost are united.
Maize, the Godhead (Colossians 2:9) and the Trinity (1 John 5:7) are one and the same. Its just that the word TRIUNE is a more descriptive term for TRINITY. Personally, being an AVphile, I prefer the term GODHEAD.Maize said:
Yes, but I had always heard used interchangably, hence my confusion. So the Trinity is a description of the Godhead, but the Godhead is not always refered to as a Trinity? Help the poor Unitarian understand... lo.
Let's look at context, shall we? The Colossians had lost their focus on Christ (see Col. 1:15-20). Colossians 2:8 shows that the people were in danger of turning to "hollow and deceptive philosophy" rather than being focused on Christ. What could philosophy and traditions offer that Christ could not? The next verse is a reminder that there is no better place to turn for answers and for truth than to Christ, in whom all the fullness of God dwells. There is nothing in the context here that would warrant believing that Paul is writing about the Trinity. He is simply saying that if you want to find God, look to Christ.AV1611 said:Maize, the Godhead (Colossians 2:9)
and the Trinity (1 John 5:7) are one and the same.
Where does it say Christ has "all the fullness of God"?Maize said:
The fact that Christ has all the fullness of God does not make him God. Ephesians 3:19 says that Christians should be filled with all the fullness of God, and no one believes that would make each Christian God.Source
This is slightly bonkers. The word Trinity means precisely the same thing as triunity, it means three in one. We use the word triune as well, as in the phrase 'the Triune God', triune being the adjectival form of Trinity, but there's really no need to change the noun used - you're not gaining anything (except one superfluous vowel).AV1611 said:We like to use the word, Triune, or Triunity, instead of Trinity. I don't like that word myself. As I see it, Trinity deals with 3 Gods, while Triunity deals with 3 Gods as 1 God.
Those word both be from the same book that tells us that the Word was with God was God and Incarnated as Jesus Christ, right?may said:As i do not believe in the trinity doctrine ,only on what the bible tells me , this scripture seems to spring to mind
This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ John 17;3
"You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know."John 4:22 opps i think i better get my coat again.
AV1611 said:Where does it say Christ has "all the fullness of God"?