Trudeau Government Moves to Regulate Podcasts

[Debater Slayer]

I looked up the story and couldn't find anything except in highly biased media outlets, but the Canadian government has this on its website:

First, the CRTC is setting out which online streaming services need to provide information about their activities in Canada. Online streaming services that operate in Canada, offer broadcasting content, and earn $10 million or more in annual revenues will need to complete a registration form by November 28, 2023. Registration collects basic information, is only required once and can be completed in just a few steps.

CRTC takes major step forward to modernize Canada’s broadcasting framework - Canada.ca

Today, the CRTC is advancing its regulatory plan to modernize Canada’s broadcasting framework and ensure online streaming services make meaningful contributions to Canadian and Indigenous content.

www.canada.ca

It's not clear what information the registration requires, although I also see no reason to conclude that there's censorship based on the mere requirement of registration. I think assessing such a conclusion would require more details about the registration and the specific purpose thereof.

 

[F1fan]

Let's get something straight: regulating information is de facto censorship.

Then censorship is a public service, as you describe it.

If citizens were all well-educated then personal choice would lead to excellent outcomes. As it is there are many poorly educated citizens who lack the skills to discern sources. They need guidance. If citizens have the right to vote then society has a vested interest in information being truthful. We see the negative effects of disinformation on American politics, and do we allow a nation to collapse due to unkilled citizens casting flawed votes due to disinformation? Or does society see a need to regulate so that the unskilled are not suceptible to disinformation?

Is spewing disinformation that harms people a right?

And then the white elephant. What happens when big daddy disagrees with your view of reality?

That's why being eductawd and well informed assures better government.

Or do you assume that you're going to agree with whatever the government's curated narrative is? I have news for you...if your opinion agrees with the mainstream narrative in all respects, it's because your mind has been propagandized.

We see libertarians have a problem with government as it sets guidelines. Of course we see liberals oppose government when they ban books, and spew disinformation about vaccinations and trans people.

I'm sorry, but this all just strikes me as painfully naive.

Maybe you aren't informed well enough on the full extent of the issue.

 

[Lyndon]

Go Canada, at least one country has the bazoos to do what America won't

 

[F1fan]

I looked up the story and couldn't find anything except in highly biased media outlets, but the Canadian government has this on its website:

When folks cite bad media sources and then want no limits on media, that makes the argument for standards being set.

 

[Debater Slayer]

When folks cite bad media sources and then want no limits on media, that makes the argument for standards being set.

I can see merit to the general concern about regulation of podcast content, because, when taken to an extreme, that level of government intervention in media has resulted in abuse, stifling of freedoms, and government overreach in some countries. I just don't see any evidence that Canada is taking such overreaching measures or that this specific requirement of registration entails excessive censorship, though.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

And you can't say "****" on the radio. But that's not censorship.

That actually is censorship.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Going after podcasters strikes me as too far.

They probably looked at us and, rightfully soxl, feared for their owm safety. Amd who can blame them? Prejudice and bigotry have become fashionable, there's rampant fear and hatred amd stupidity driving gun violence, a eave if books are getting challenged and banned, people like Marjorie Taylor get elected and go the path of doublespeak with their Freedom Caucus, there's government shut downs and threats of a shutdown, power changes and impeachmemts are being used as political stunts, Qanon amd white supremacy are gaining mainstream traction and social media has played a strong role in it all.

 

[icehorse]

Sounds like much ado about nothing. Also, your source isn't great:

I'd say that ANY attempts to restrict speech beyond current laws is worthy of great scrutiny, kind of the opposite of "nothing to see here".

Because free speech is sooooo essential, it seems to me it's worth a tiny bit of effort. My search engine provided many links, including this one:

Online streaming Bill C-11: Everything you need to know

The federal Liberal government has finally passed Bill C-11, after spending years trying to advance online streaming legislation. As all eyes turn to how the regulatory framework is set up, here's a comprehensive explainer outlining everything you need to know about how Bill C-11 got to this...

www.ctvnews.ca

 

[PureX]

For those who seem to be near worshiping the ideal of "free speech", I have a question ...

How does allowing rampant, blatant lying further the cause of freedom of speech?

 

[Twilight Hue]

I see Canada's big daddy government is coming along nicely.

Certainly this will help ensure safety and security for all.

Trudeau Government moves to regulate podcasts - The Counter Signal

The Liberals' Online Streaming Act is moving into its next phase of regulation by requiring podcasters to register with the CRTC.

thecountersignal.com

Canadians have been voicing their concerns for a long long time about disappearing freedoms. At least in and around the GTA.

Just like here in the states.

 

[Twilight Hue]

For those who seem to be near worshiping the ideal of "free speech", I have a question ...

How does allowing rampant, blatant lying further the cause of freedom of speech?

Because there is the issue of who exactly is in charge of the truth and has the sole authority to only have their own version as being the sole standard at the dismissal of others who differ ?

 

[Revoltingest]

To me, and I think this was the context implied by the OP, censorship is limiting political speech. But whatever. And this doesn't affect any podcast where they pull in less than 10 MILLION in revenue, so this really just applies to corporations---or at least not to the normal citizen's podcast. I just don't see a basis for the reaction.

We have a problem with Miss Censordoll banning
books in libraries & schools over non-political
things like homosexuality.
Of course I see your view.
But I'm compelled to bicker.

 

[Revoltingest]

They probably looked at us and, rightfully soxl, feared for their owm safety. Amd who can blame them? Prejudice and bigotry have become fashionable, there's rampant fear and hatred amd stupidity driving gun violence, a eave if books are getting challenged and banned, people like Marjorie Taylor get elected and go the path of doublespeak with their Freedom Caucus, there's government shut downs and threats of a shutdown, power changes and impeachmemts are being used as political stunts, Qanon amd white supremacy are gaining mainstream traction and social media has played a strong role in it all.

You'll rue the day when government gains the
power to censor prejudice, bigotry, & hate speech.
Remember that this power could lie in the hands of
Trump & other cultish power mad poobahs.

 

[PureX]

Because there is the issue of who exactly is in charge of the truth and has the sole authority to only have their own version as being the sole standard at the dismissal of others who differ ?

Well, that's an "issue" regarding all aspects of civil organization, isn't it. And yet some means has to be instituted to oversee social civil interaction. And I think this is exactly what the Canadians are trying figure out. As opposed to here in the the U.S. where we can just lie with impunity about pretty much anything and everything, and as a result people are now simply believing whatever lies they happen to like.

I don't see how the fundamental goal of the ideal of freedom of speech is being served by allowing people and institutions to lie with impunity. Especially as the end result is that 'speech' becomes more and more valueless, and meaningless.

Is it really that impossible for modern society to institute some means of overseeing honesty in speech? I really don't think it would be that difficult. What will be difficult is that every politician and every corporate CEO will fight such oversight tooth and nail, as they are the most prolific liars among us.

 

[Revoltingest]

Is it really that impossible for modern society to institute some means of overseeing honesty in speech? I really don't think it would be that difficult. What will be difficult is that every politician and every corporate CEO will fight such oversight tooth and nail, as they are the most prolific liars among us.

Who would determine what's true & what isn't?

 

[Subduction Zone]

How do these sources manipulate the minds of people so easily?

A lot of people are lazy and will grab the first source that agrees with them rather than using critical reasoning skills.

 

[Left Coast]

I'd say that ANY attempts to restrict speech beyond current laws is worthy of great scrutiny, kind of the opposite of "nothing to see here".

Because free speech is sooooo essential, it seems to me it's worth a tiny bit of effort. My search engine provided many links, including this one:

Online streaming Bill C-11: Everything you need to know

The federal Liberal government has finally passed Bill C-11, after spending years trying to advance online streaming legislation. As all eyes turn to how the regulatory framework is set up, here's a comprehensive explainer outlining everything you need to know about how Bill C-11 got to this...

www.ctvnews.ca

From what I can see, this bill just extends existing law regulating Canadian TV and radio to internet streaming services. Did you watch the interview on the page you linked? It's not about "restricting speech."

 

[Shadow Wolf]

You'll rue the day when government gains the
power to censor prejudice, bigotry, & hate speech.
Remember that this power could lie in the hands of
Trump & other cultish power mad poobahs.

I look to the rest of the world and it just doesn't scare me. We aren't like them and Trump is what we got. Not them, us.

 

[Revoltingest]

I look to the rest of the world and it just doesn't scare me. We aren't like them and Trump is what we got. Not them, us.

You trust our leaders more than I do.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

You trust our leaders more than I do.

It's more the observation for the all the claims of things we must have so we can thwart tyrants, like our level of free speech, it is America that fought against an insurrection. It didn't help prevent fascists, it empowered them.