Trump Again Claiming Right To Assassinate Rivals

[Copernicus]

Even I agree that Trump should stop his rambling on when Biden was trying to speak.

Even I wanted to know what Biden had to say so I would recommend next debate, if ever by these two, it should be moderated by Judge Judy. The only woman in the world who I say can get Trump to shut up.

Actually, there is at least one other--E. Jean Carroll finally got him to shut up, but it cost him a lot of other people's money to finally get through to him. He tends not to spend his own money on his legal expenses.

 

[Secret Chief]

Why waste time with votes n stuff? It just stops things from getting done.

- The Republican revolt against democracy, explained in 13 charts

 

[Revoltingest]

Why waste time with votes n stuff? It just stops things from getting done.

- The Republican revolt against democracy, explained in 13 charts

Ya know.......if SCOTUS ruled that assassinating rivals
is constitutional, then Biden could wield this tool
against Trump. US government could do away with
elections, & use the Terran Empire system of promotion
by assassination.
(For the uneducated see "Mirror, Mirror", STTOS 2S4E.)

 

[LuisDantas]

To think that there are still millions of people who want to vote for such a sorry excuse for a human being...

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

So much for your speculation that Biden would not debate Trump. He already did that back when Trump showed up while infected with COVID and wouldn't stop yapping while it was Biden's turn to talk. Biden finally had to turn to him and shout "Will you shut up?" I doubt that Trump will agree to debate him again, but March is way too early to be committing to debates. Right now, debate challenges from Trump are all just the usual smack talk from Trump, but he wants the campaign to go into full swing right away in the hopes that it will pause all of his criminal trials.

President Joe Biden says he’s ‘happy to debate’ Donald Trump. Trump says he’s ready to go​

So when is Biden going to commit to one? I hope he does, we will see.

 

[fantome profane]

So when is Biden going to commit to one? I hope he does, we will see.

Presidential debates traditionally occur in September and October.


This is the end of April.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Why wouldn't Trump want to debate? He is the one calling for them. I doubt Biden could debate, I bet there won't be any. If you do you will hear things like:

And the question is whether or not we should be in a position where you are -- why can't the experts say we know that this virus is, in fact -- is going to be -- or, excuse me -- we know why all the drugs approved are not temporarily approved, but permanently approved. That's underway, too. I expect that to occur quickly.

or

I mean, you got the first sort of mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy.

or

You got more questions? I tell you what, if you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain’t black.

Pure gold.

How many Republican primary debates did Trump show up to?





Zero. The answer is zero.

So I have no idea why you think Trump wants to, or will debate Biden.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Biden is too far gone to be allowed to debate by his unelected puppeteers who are the ones really in charge and running things.

But I thought he was a criminal mastermind in cahoots with China?

You guys need to make up your mind. Is he "too far gone" or is a criminal mastermind who has somehow managed to hide all evidence of his corrupt ties to China from the Republicans?

He can't be both.

 

[We Never Know]

One particular interesting point asked by the justices about was can Obama be tried for murder because of his drone strikes that went wrong and killed civilians or is he immune to charges.

How many presidents would fall under "strikes gone wrong and/or civilians killed"?

Should they all be charged with murder or is that covered under casualties of war.

 

[SkepticThinker]

You forgot to say allegedly.

Unless of course you have Trump documented and filmed saying those things.

We do.

What Trump Asked of Pence - FactCheck.org

In an interview hours after former President Donald Trump was indicted for an alleged conspiracy to overturn the 2020 presidential election, one of his attorneys said that all Trump had ultimately asked his vice president to do was "simply pause” the Electoral College count at the U.S. Capitol...

www.factcheck.org

Fake electors indicted in Arizona: Here's how Trump's plan to overturn the election worked

Former President Donald Trump and several of his allies are facing criminal charges for allegedly trying to recruit and pose as fake electors.

www.usatoday.com

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-transcript-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/2768e0cc-4ddd-11eb-83e3-322644d82356_story.html

Fake Donald Trump electors settle civil lawsuit in Wisconsin, agree that President Biden won

Ten Republicans who posed as fake electors for Donald Trump in Wisconsin and filed paperwork falsely saying he had won have settled a civil lawsuit.

apnews.com

 

[Pogo]

But I thought he was a criminal mastermind in cahoots with China?

You guys need to make up your mind. Is he "too far gone" or is a criminal mastermind who has somehow managed to hide all evidence of his corrupt ties to China from the Republicans?

He can't be both.

Or maybe both, it is just reflecting on how far gone the Republicans are in their lack of ability to find what is supposedly right in front of their face.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Even I agree that Trump should stop his rambling on when Biden was trying to speak.

Even I wanted to know what Biden had to say so I would recommend next debate, if ever by these two, it should be moderated by Judge Judy. The only woman in the world who I say can get Trump to shut up.

That would be awesome!

 

[fantome profane]

How many Republican primary debates did Trump show up to?





Zero. The answer is zero.

So I have no idea why you think Trump wants to, or will debate Biden.

To be fair, that is approximately the same number of Democratic primary debates that Biden showed up to.

 

[SkepticThinker]

To be fair, that is approximately the same number of Democratic primary debates that Biden showed up to.

Can't disagree with that.

 

[Revoltingest]

One particular interesting point asked by the justices about was can Obama be tried for murder because of his drone strikes that went wrong and killed civilians or is he immune to charges.

SCOTUS justices have been concerned with "personal"
vs "official" acts. They'd view drone strikes against
targets in other countries as official & with immunity,
as opposed to a personal act without immunity, eg,
assassinating a political rival in USA.

 

[Nakosis]

Trump’s Lawyer Tries to Convince a Stunned Sotomayor: President Has Immunity to Order Assassinations of Rivals

Justice Sonia Sotomayor and Trump lawyer John Sauer had a stunning exchange over presidential immunity when it comes to the assassination of political rivals.

www.mediaite.com

Excerpted....
SOTOMAYOR: Now I think. What? And then your, answer, below, I’m going to give you a chance to say if you stay by it, if the president decides that his rival is a corrupt person and he orders the military or order someone to assassinate him, is that within his official acts that for which he can get immunity?

Sauer: It would depend on the hypothetical. What we can see that could well be an official act.

SOTOMAYOR: He could. And why? Because he’s doing it for personal reasons. He’s not doing it. Like President Obama is alleged to have done it to protect the country from a terrorist. He’s doing it for personal gain. And isn’t that the nature of the allegations here, that he’s not doing them, doing these acts in furtherance of an official responsibility? He’s doing it for personal gain.

Sauer: I agree with that characterization of the indictment. And that confirms immunity, because the characterization is that there’s a series of official acts that were done for an honorable.

The exchange continued and turned to a discussion over the distinction between absolute and qualified immunity as it applies to the Executive Branch, or in particular, the President of the United States.

That's true. We assassinate rivals of society as late as last year (2023) through the death penalty. The argument seem not about whether a president has the ability to assassinate a rival of society but whether the president can determine who that rival is.

 

[Revoltingest]

That's true. We assassinate rivals of society as late as last year (2023) through the death penalty. The argument seem not about whether a president has the ability to assassinate a rival of society but whether the president can determine who that rival is.

I hope your argument is tongue in cheek.

 

[Nakosis]

I hope your argument is tongue in cheek.

I'm not arguing for it. I'm just saying this seems to be the way the US works. This is not something that is unique to Trump.

The Obama administration today argued before a federal court that it should have unreviewable authority to kill Americans the executive branch has unilaterally determined to pose a threat.
Obama Administration Claims Unchecked Authority To Kill Americans Outside Combat Zones | American Civil Liberties Union

 

[Copernicus]

So when is Biden going to commit to one? I hope he does, we will see.

So far, Donald Trump hasn't committed to one. Both candidates have now said that they would commit to one. However, talk is cheap, and there have been no presidential candidates in the past who are cheaper than Donald Trump when it comes to honoring a commitment. As fantome profane has pointed out, debates don't even take place until the fall. Both candidates are so old, that there is a small chance that one will expire or become otherwise incapacitated before the real campaign season starts.

Any debate with Donald Trump is going to become a chaotic media circus that will serve the needs of the news networks better than the public, which has been thoroughly exposed to their abilities to run the office of the presidency.

 

[Revoltingest]

I'm not arguing for it. I'm just saying this seems to be the way the US works. This is not something that is unique to Trump.

The Obama administration today argued before a federal court that it should have unreviewable authority to kill Americans the executive branch has unilaterally determined to pose a threat.
Obama Administration Claims Unchecked Authority To Kill Americans Outside Combat Zones | American Civil Liberties Union

Killing US citizens abroad serving as enemy combatants
strikes me as very different from Trump sending Seal
Team 6 to kill Nikki Haley in S Carolina.