Trump failed in managing the pandemic

[Shadow Wolf]

If that was the source then yes. China needs to take responsibility for their recklessness.

Trump needs to take responsibility for his lies and encouragement of wreckless behaviors that have made America struggle with covid amd suffer so far worse than so many other countries. But Trump just banned travel here from China. He needs to take responsibility for not sealing off the boarder and putting returning citizens under strict quarantine for a longer period of time given that we still new very little of covid-19. Thise were more crucial steps he failed us.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Trump needs to take responsibility for his lies and encouragement of wreckless behaviors that have made America struggle with covid amd suffer so far worse than so many other countries. But Trump just banned travel here from China. He needs to take responsibility for not sealing off the boarder and putting returning citizens under strict quarantine for a longer period of time given that we still new very little of covid-19. Thise were more crucial steps he failed us.

Worse than Sweden?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Worse than Sweden?

Yup. Sweden at least encouraged the social steps (distance, mask, stay home if sick), they just didn't shut down. For as bad as it was, they took a calculated risk. Trump threw gas on the fire with things like "democrat hoax" amd playing down the risks and severity.

 

[FearGod]

Yup. Sweden at least encouraged the social steps (distance, mask, stay home if sick), they just didn't shut down. For as bad as it was, they took a calculated risk. Trump threw gas on the fire with things like "democrat hoax" amd playing down the risks and severity.

one politician said Trump makes America great by being No.1 with covid-19,

 

[Shadow Wolf]

one politician said Trump makes America great by being No.1 with covid-19,

Number one in failing and struggling beyond what was necessary.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Number one in failing and struggling beyond what was necessary.

We are failing and struggling because the government is intentionally putting people out of their business and jobs using covid-19 as an excuse.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Yup. Sweden at least encouraged the social steps (distance, mask, stay home if sick), they just didn't shut down. For as bad as it was, they took a calculated risk. Trump threw gas on the fire with things like "democrat hoax" amd playing down the risks and severity.

There's a simple solution. Get two way protective gear for those who desire it and let the rest make their own decisions and choices for themselves.

Novel idea, isnt it?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

We are failing and struggling because the government is intentionally putting people out of their business and jobs using covid-19 as an excuse.

You know this didnt just effect America, don't you? Lots of places did lock down tight. Today they are doing far better.
So all these excuses (including those who want to include masks) are clearly wrong because so much of the rest of world has thoroughly demonstrated how to batten down the hatches and manage during a pandemic.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

There's a simple solution. Get two way protective gear for those who desire it and let the rest make their own decisions and choices for themselves.

Novel idea, isnt it?

Crap idea because we know that doesn't work. Crap idea because we know mask compliance is essential in getting over this.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Crap idea because we know that doesn't work. Crap idea because we know mask compliance is essential in getting over this.

So just get yourself a two way mask and not mind what others happen to be doing. Its not anyones business to dictate what a person can and cannot do for themselves.

Those two way masks do exist you know.

 

[Twilight Hue]

You know this didnt just effect America, don't you? Lots of places did lock down tight. Today they are doing far better.
So all these excuses (including those who want to include masks) are clearly wrong because so much of the rest of world has thoroughly demonstrated how to batten down the hatches and manage during a pandemic.

I dont see anyone on top of things. The virus is still there.

 

[FearGod]

I dont see anyone on top of things. The virus is still there.

Near to zero in China.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Near to zero in China.

Guess they are not sharing their secret.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

So just get yourself a two way mask and not mind what others happen to be doing. Its not anyones business to dictate what a person can and cannot do for themselves.

Those two way masks do exist you know.

People not wearing a mask directly effects others. This isn't like someone taking a knee during the anthem that literally effects no one. Such selfishness as "mind your business" during a pandemic of an airborne and highly contagious virus is EXACTLY why we never even really got out of the first wave. Its why we have 200,000 dead. Because America at this point I don't think ever did believe in "ask what you can do for your country." It's always been what my country can do for me, amd its get out of my way so I can do what I want.
And we don't need two way masks. A regular masks and distance do adequate for reducing risks when you cant avoid being around others. Not a guarantee, but nothing is. Following science makes this apparent.

 

[Twilight Hue]

People not wearing a mask directly effects others. This isn't like someone taking a knee during the anthem that literally effects no one. Such selfishness as "mind your business" during a pandemic of an airborne and highly contagious virus is EXACTLY why we never even really got out of the first wave. Its why we have 200,000 dead. Because America at this point I don't think ever did believe in "ask what you can do for your country." It's always been what my country can do for me, amd its get out of my way so I can do what I want.
And we don't need two way masks. A regular masks and distance do adequate for reducing risks when you cant avoid being around others. Not a guarantee, but nothing is. Following science makes this apparent.

Well protect yourself then. Don't mind what other people want to do.

 

[FearGod]

Guess they are not sharing their secret.

No secrets, they took the matter seriously.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I dont see anyone on top of things. The virus is still there.

New Zealand did well. Australia did well. China did well. Yes, the virus is still there, but lots of countries are at or near no new cases in some time.
Amd then theres "me me me" England amd now social gatherings of six or more are banned because they have been seeing over 1000 new cases a day.
America continues to see 1000 deaths a day and just cannot be assed to switch course and cease with the needless destruction.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Well protect yourself then. Don't mind what other people want to do.

I have to go to the store like everybody else. Not wearing a mask effects others. Its not just your business on that one. It's the business of everyone you breathe on.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

No secrets, they took the matter seriously.

That exactly. They shut down. They stayed apart. No excuses. No bull****. (two things America just cannot get enough of).

 

[Howard Is]

Everyone failed in the pandemic. There's no cure.

No, Trump doesn’t escape his irresponsibility that easily.

America has a death rate twenty times higher than Australia, because Trump deliberately misinformed everybody.

He doesn’t want panic ? Bovine feces. Look at all the panic he is trying to generate about violent socialist revolution - just for votes.

The covid disaster in the US is Trump’s work. It’s that simple.