You can google...
China lies about size of their economy
China lies about persecution of Uighurs
China lies about religious persecution
China steals intellectual property
China lies about coronavirus.
Why should I believe them?
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Trump failed in managing the pandemic
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You can google...
China lies about size of their economy
China lies about persecution of Uighurs
China lies about religious persecution
China steals intellectual property
China lies about coronavirus.
Why should I believe them?
Howard Is
Lucky Mud
So what is his job, apart from generating as much hate and division as he can, and setting up big business deals in foreign lands for his personal profit ?
Thief
Rogue Theologian
The count of the burial urns are based on the actual business paper work and testimony provided by the people of Wuhan.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Please your reference.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
If I google for Islam and terrorism, then many will blame Islam for terrorism.
accusations isn't a proof of anything except if we have a conclusive evidence.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
If you so worried about lying, then you should anticipate what my question would be and about whom (not you), so I'll not even ask it.
You should start doing your own home work.
[cite=[URL="https://time.com/5811222/wuhan-coronavirus-death-toll/"]Report of Urns in Wuhan Raises Questions About COVID-19 Death Toll[/URL]]
Report of Urns Stacked at Wuhan Funeral Homes Raises Questions About the Real Coronavirus Death Toll in China
The long lines and stacks of ash urns greeting family members of the dead at funeral homes in Wuhan are spurring questions about the true scale of coronavirus casualties at the epicenter of the outbreak, renewing pressure on a Chinese government struggling to control its containment narrative.
The families of those who succumbed to the virus in the central Chinese city, where the disease first emerged in December, were allowed to pick up their cremated ashes at eight local funeral homes starting last week. As they did, photos circulated on Chinese social media of thousands of urns being ferried in.
Outside one funeral home, trucks shipped in about 2,500 urns on both Wednesday and Thursday, according to Chinese media outlet Caixin. Another picture published by Caixin showed 3,500 urns stacked on the ground inside. It’s unclear how many of the urns had been filled.
People who answered the phone at six of the eight funeral homes in Wuhan said they either did not have data on how many urns were waiting to be collected, or were not authorized to disclose the numbers. Calls were not answered at the other two.
Some families said they had been forced to wait for several hours to pick up the ashes. The photos circulated as mass deaths from the virus spiked in cities across the west, including Milan, Madrid and New York, where hospitals were erecting tents to handle the overflow as global infections soar.
According to Chinese government figures, 2,548 people in Wuhan have died of the virus. The announcement that a lockdown in place since January would be lifted came after China said its tally of new cases had hit zero and stepped up diplomatic outreach to other countries hard hit by the virus, sending some of them medical supplies.
But some in China have been skeptical of the accuracy of the official tally, particularly given Wuhan’s overwhelmed medical system, authorities’ attempts to cover up the outbreak in its initial stages, and multiple revisions to the way official cases are counted. Residents on social media have demanded disciplinary action against top Wuhan officials.
Many people who died had Covid-19 symptoms, but weren’t tested and excluded from the official case tally, Caixin said. There were also patients who died of other diseases due to a lack of proper treatment when hospitals were overwhelmed dealing with those who had the coronavirus.
There were 13,856 cremations in Wuhan in the fourth quarter of 2019, according to Bloomberg calculations based on data from the city’s civil affairs agency. That was 2,419 lower than in the fourth quarter of 2018.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
What a great evidence, I'm afraid the Chinese went extinct.
Trump praised China at the beginning saying that they worked hard to stop the disease and
when he failed to control the pandemic in USA he started to blame China and telling the
victims in China is much higher than in USA and that the Chinese aren't telling the truth..
That is more evidence of the inconsistency and dishonesty of Donald Trump who admitted he knew the the extreme dangers of the COVID-19 pandemic, and lied to the American people.
??? I don't see your logic. The proof is there.
History. Terrorism is as old as humanity, and widely practiced by Christians and Biblical Judaism in history. There are no angels.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Which proof? show it up please.
That doesn't follow the thread of thought of what we were talking about.
As I said, google those different points and you will find ample proof (besides the fact that it has been in the news)
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Trump in total mental confusion over vaccines, pandemic implications, and masks. Rejects his science advisors and medical authorities.
Source: Trump disputes CDC head's vaccine timeline and mask claims - CNNPolitics
Trump disputes CDC head's vaccine timeline and mask claims
By Maegan Vazquez, CNN
(CNN)President Donald Trump again contradicted his own health officials' coronavirus statements -- this time on the importance of mask wearing and the timing for a vaccine.
And he demeaned Dr. Robert Redfield, the director of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, saying the doctor was "confused" in his congressional testimony.
Redfield said Wednesday that masks may be a more effective protection against coronavirus than any potential vaccine that the President can't stop hyping. And he laid out a timeline for when the general US public could expect to start seeing results from widespread coronavirus vaccination the second or third quarter of 2021. Those statements both seemed to contradict what Trump has been saying.
"I might even go so far as to say that this face mask is more guaranteed to protect me against Covid than when I take a Covid vaccine, because the immunogenicity may be 70%. And if I don't get an immune response, the vaccine is not going to protect me. This face mask will," Redfield told lawmakers during public testimony, adding that the American public has not yet embraced the use of masks to a level that could effectively control the outbreak.
Responding to Redfield's congressional testimony, Trump took his pushback against the doctor -- who he appointed to lead the CDC -- a step further, contradicting the agency head on two accounts: the timeline for a coronavirus vaccine and the effectiveness of masks compared with inoculation.
Redfield told the Senate Appropriations Committee Wednesday: "If you're asking me when is it going to be generally available to the American public, so we can begin to take advantage of vaccine to get back to our regular life, I think we're probably looking at third, late second quarter, third quarter 2021."
The President told reporters Redfield was "confused" when he said that.
"I think he made a mistake when he said that. It's just incorrect information," Trump said.
The President also said Redfield's comments to Congress about masks possibly being more effective than a vaccine were incorrect and that Redfield may have misunderstood the question.
"Maybe he misunderstood it," Trump said, later adding, "As far as the masks are concerned, I hope that the vaccine is going to be a lot more beneficial than the masks."
Redfield said in a statement regarding his mask testimony that he believes in the "importance of vaccines and the importance in particular of a Covid-19 vaccine."
"A Covid-19 vaccine is the thing that will get Americans back to normal everyday life. The best defense we currently have against this virus are the important mitigation efforts of wearing a mask, washing your hands, social distancing and being careful about crowds," he said, not addressing Trump's claim that he had been confused.
A CDC spokesman issued a statement responding to Trump's vaccine comment by seemingly backing up the President's claim.
"In today's hearing, Dr. Redfield was answering a question he thought was in regard to the time period in which all Americans would have completed their Covid vaccination, and his estimate was by the second or third quarter of 2021. He was not referring to the time period when Covid-19 vaccine doses would be made available to all Americans," the spokesman said.
This is not the first time Trump has forced Redfield to revisit answers he's given regarding the pandemic.
Earlier this year, Trump claimed Redfield had been inaccurately quoted in The Washington Post, before the doctor confirmed he had been accurately quoted.
The back-and-forth comes the day after Trump's White House held a peace agreement ceremony with dignitaries from three foreign countries that largely ignored social distancing and mask guidelines -- and the President awkwardly and baselessly named "waiters" as part of a group of people who don't like wearing masks to prevent the spread of the virus.
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Source: Trump disputes CDC head's vaccine timeline and mask claims - CNNPolitics
Trump disputes CDC head's vaccine timeline and mask claims
By Maegan Vazquez, CNN
(CNN)President Donald Trump again contradicted his own health officials' coronavirus statements -- this time on the importance of mask wearing and the timing for a vaccine.
And he demeaned Dr. Robert Redfield, the director of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, saying the doctor was "confused" in his congressional testimony.
Redfield said Wednesday that masks may be a more effective protection against coronavirus than any potential vaccine that the President can't stop hyping. And he laid out a timeline for when the general US public could expect to start seeing results from widespread coronavirus vaccination the second or third quarter of 2021. Those statements both seemed to contradict what Trump has been saying.
"I might even go so far as to say that this face mask is more guaranteed to protect me against Covid than when I take a Covid vaccine, because the immunogenicity may be 70%. And if I don't get an immune response, the vaccine is not going to protect me. This face mask will," Redfield told lawmakers during public testimony, adding that the American public has not yet embraced the use of masks to a level that could effectively control the outbreak.
Responding to Redfield's congressional testimony, Trump took his pushback against the doctor -- who he appointed to lead the CDC -- a step further, contradicting the agency head on two accounts: the timeline for a coronavirus vaccine and the effectiveness of masks compared with inoculation.
Redfield told the Senate Appropriations Committee Wednesday: "If you're asking me when is it going to be generally available to the American public, so we can begin to take advantage of vaccine to get back to our regular life, I think we're probably looking at third, late second quarter, third quarter 2021."
The President told reporters Redfield was "confused" when he said that.
"I think he made a mistake when he said that. It's just incorrect information," Trump said.
The President also said Redfield's comments to Congress about masks possibly being more effective than a vaccine were incorrect and that Redfield may have misunderstood the question.
"Maybe he misunderstood it," Trump said, later adding, "As far as the masks are concerned, I hope that the vaccine is going to be a lot more beneficial than the masks."
Redfield said in a statement regarding his mask testimony that he believes in the "importance of vaccines and the importance in particular of a Covid-19 vaccine."
"A Covid-19 vaccine is the thing that will get Americans back to normal everyday life. The best defense we currently have against this virus are the important mitigation efforts of wearing a mask, washing your hands, social distancing and being careful about crowds," he said, not addressing Trump's claim that he had been confused.
A CDC spokesman issued a statement responding to Trump's vaccine comment by seemingly backing up the President's claim.
"In today's hearing, Dr. Redfield was answering a question he thought was in regard to the time period in which all Americans would have completed their Covid vaccination, and his estimate was by the second or third quarter of 2021. He was not referring to the time period when Covid-19 vaccine doses would be made available to all Americans," the spokesman said.
This is not the first time Trump has forced Redfield to revisit answers he's given regarding the pandemic.
Earlier this year, Trump claimed Redfield had been inaccurately quoted in The Washington Post, before the doctor confirmed he had been accurately quoted.
The back-and-forth comes the day after Trump's White House held a peace agreement ceremony with dignitaries from three foreign countries that largely ignored social distancing and mask guidelines -- and the President awkwardly and baselessly named "waiters" as part of a group of people who don't like wearing masks to prevent the spread of the virus.
© Copyright Original Source
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
After his failure and nothing to offer, no achievements to talk about other than what
he offered to Israel and the middle east and making troubles with Iran and China,
Trump talks about how great the American history , he speaks about how
they made America great, he tried to touch the hearts by talking about the
great history of America and how he made himself as a hero in defending
the statues, better if he made serious orders to protect people from covid-19
than saving the statues.
he offered to Israel and the middle east and making troubles with Iran and China,
Trump talks about how great the American history , he speaks about how
they made America great, he tried to touch the hearts by talking about the
great history of America and how he made himself as a hero in defending
the statues, better if he made serious orders to protect people from covid-19
than saving the statues.
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