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Trump failed in managing the pandemic

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Trump insists in blaming China for covid-19 and maybe for anything bad happening in USA,

The relationship between USA and China at its worst, while from the other side Trump helps
Israel to make peaceful relationships with the Arab world specially the Gulf states which
will have business relationships with Israel.

Does Trump support Israel to win the election?
Your thoughts.
 

Mindmaster

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Trump insists in blaming China for covid-19 and maybe for anything bad happening in USA,

The relationship between USA and China at its worst, while from the other side Trump helps
Israel to make peaceful relationships with the Arab world specially the Gulf states which
will have business relationships with Israel.

Does Trump support Israel to win the election?
Your thoughts.

China is a complete douche-nozzle country and we don't need anything to do with them. That's really the end of that. There are a list of reasons about two-miles long for that line of reasoning, and I'll spare you. The short of it is there is no, "We wanna do well, and we want that for you as well." with China. China wants it all, and is playing for keeps. This is not the kind of country you want an economic relationship with in any sense of the word.

Israel has been a staunch USA ally and never wavered even in the slightest. I can't say the same with our Arab allies. But, I guess if you get down to it I think Trump's moves to end the conflicts in the region are good for everyone regardless. Less conflict in the region means less proxy-war garbage and I'm down with that.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Trump insists in blaming China for covid-19 and maybe for anything bad happening in USA,

The relationship between USA and China at its worst, while from the other side Trump helps
Israel to make peaceful relationships with the Arab world specially the Gulf states which
will have business relationships with Israel.

Does Trump support Israel to win the election?
Your thoughts.
Everyone failed in the pandemic. There's no cure.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
China is a complete douche-nozzle country and we don't need anything to do with them. That's really the end of that. There are a list of reasons about two-miles long for that line of reasoning, and I'll spare you. The short of it is there is no, "We wanna do well, and we want that for you as well." with China. China wants it all, and is playing for keeps. This is not the kind of country you want an economic relationship with in any sense of the word.

What do you think about many economists believing that Trump's war on China
will cost a lot and it'll heart US more than China.

Israel has been a staunch USA ally and never wavered even in the slightest. I can't say the same with our Arab allies. But, I guess if you get down to it I think Trump's moves to end the conflicts in the region are good for everyone regardless. Less conflict in the region means less proxy-war garbage and I'm down with that.

How helping the Israeli people will benefit the US citizens?
I think the US is always giving a lot of money to Israel.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Trump insists in blaming China for covid-19 and maybe for anything bad happening in USA,

The relationship between USA and China at its worst, while from the other side Trump helps
Israel to make peaceful relationships with the Arab world specially the Gulf states which
will have business relationships with Israel.

Does Trump support Israel to win the election?
Your thoughts.

Well... it isn't like the US created the Pandemic. Where did it start?

Yes, relationships are strained. But why? Because somebody didn't just lie down when China continues to push its agenda to take over areas that don't belong to them? et al?

Are you saying it is wrong to bring peace in the Middle East?

Does Trump support Israel because if not they would be extinguished and another holocaust would happen?
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Trump insists in blaming China for covid-19 and maybe for anything bad happening in USA,

The relationship between USA and China at its worst, while from the other side Trump helps
Israel to make peaceful relationships with the Arab world specially the Gulf states which
will have business relationships with Israel.

Does Trump support Israel to win the election?
Your thoughts.


Fox news claims otherwise.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Well... it isn't like the US created the Pandemic. Where did it start?

Yes, relationships are strained. But why? Because somebody didn't just lie down when China continues to push its agenda to take over areas that don't belong to them? et al?

Are you saying it is wrong to bring peace in the Middle East?

Does Trump support Israel because if not they would be extinguished and another holocaust would happen?

USA is N0.1 with covid-19 while China is free of it.
Many firms are doing the business in China due to many factors that make
the products more competitive, not only the American firms but even Japanese,
Koreans and others who prefer doing business in China.

Regarding peace in the Middle East, the question is how it benefits the American citizens
when Israel gain business with the gulf states.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Well... it isn't like the US created the Pandemic. Where did it start?

Yes, relationships are strained. But why? Because somebody didn't just lie down when China continues to push its agenda to take over areas that don't belong to them? et al?

Are you saying it is wrong to bring peace in the Middle East?

Does Trump support Israel because if not they would be extinguished and another holocaust would happen?

it would appear netanyahu lied to Trump with a doctored video.

Trump couldn't be convinced it wasn't doctored.


Fox news viewers seriously need to include other venues of news besides exclusively Fox.


fox viewers are living in a bubble


bob woodward reports this in his book "Rage".



Israeli-Palestinian conflict: Woodward recounts how, in May 2017, Trump met with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in Israel and was presented with a video of Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas. “It sounded like Abbas was ordering the murder of children,” Woodward writes. Trump, scheduled to meet with Abbas the next morning, was appalled. Former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, who watched the video, believed that Netanyahu had doctored the tape and shown it to Trump in order to “counter any pro-Palestinian sentiments that were surfacing,” according to Woodward. When Trump met with Abbas behind closed doors, Woodward writes, he accused the Palestinian leader of deceiving him and called him a “murderer” and a “liar.”


so put your rose colored glasses back on and "party" on.

 

Mindmaster

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
What do you think about many economists believing that Trump's war on China
will cost a lot and it'll heart US more than China.

How helping the Israeli people will benefit the US citizens?
I think the US is always giving a lot of money to Israel.

It's not Trump's war on China. China has been at war with the entire planet economically, period. The whole planet outside of China, not just because Trump was on point or whatever. Anyone that thinks otherwise is just dumb... Really dumb, and should be disregarded. It doesn't matter if it hurts us or not... If you keep dealing with China your country will become a vassal state and you'll be gone soon enough. Just ask New Zealand!

Anyway, Israel is a solid 100% all-in ally of the USA and it is the only country in the region that really is. Giving them money might sound optional, but every dollar spent there keeps the peace. I don't personally always agree with Israel on policy, but I agree with them more than their neighbors. Israel is much better at tracking down and dealing with the terror elements due to their locality and that helps us a lot despite the money. So, you can give them money and cut down your workload or you can do the work yourself and spend a lot more. Personally, I think it makes more sense to outsource it to them and pay a little bit for the privilege.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
It's not Trump's war on China. China has been at war with the entire planet economically, period. The whole planet outside of China, not just because Trump was on point or whatever. Anyone that thinks otherwise is just dumb... Really dumb, and should be disregarded. It doesn't matter if it hurts us or not... If you keep dealing with China your country will become a vassal state and you'll be gone soon enough. Just ask New Zealand!

Anyway, Israel is a solid 100% all-in ally of the USA and it is the only country in the region that really is. Giving them money might sound optional, but every dollar spent there keeps the peace. I don't personally always agree with Israel on policy, but I agree with them more than their neighbors. Israel is much better at tracking down and dealing with the terror elements due to their locality and that helps us a lot despite the money. So, you can give them money and cut down your workload or you can do the work yourself and spend a lot more. Personally, I think it makes more sense to outsource it to them and pay a little bit for the privilege.

Do you agree with Trump that China to be blamed for covid-19?
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Everyone failed in the pandemic. There's no cure.
Desperate attempt at damage control. Just be a big boy, swallow your pride, and acknowlwdge the fact that Trump's dishonesty and inaction was a colossal **** up. His own admission was caught on tape, so no falling back on the weak "fake news" tactic. He's not the messiah so get over it.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Desperate attempt at damage control. Just be a big boy, swallow your pride, and acknowlwdge the fact that Trump's dishonesty and inaction was a colossal **** up. His own admission was caught on tape, so no falling back on the weak "fake news" tactic. He's not the messiah so get over it.
There is no damage control. Theres only avoidance and putting off the inevitable. Just buck up, be a man, and face the facts.
 
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Mindmaster

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Do you agree with Trump that China to be blamed for covid-19?

I'm kind of hit or miss on that, but I guess I go to a few facts. The infection was known to China for a long time (of that much we are certain) before they either came out with it or did anything to curtail it. That's certainly their fault with no other explanation. Is the bug their fault itself? Impossible to say... SARS had been running wild for a long time and this is just another strain of it. MERS (another SARS variant) came out randomly as well, so it's possible COVID did as well. I'm not going to assign blame for that to anyone, but improper handling did exacerbate the problem. If China has a fault it certainly lies there.
 
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