Trump Indicted. To be Arrested in Days.

[Stevicus]

Great example of Capone being a known criminal but there being little evidence against him. It’s similar to anyone in the mob. That’s why RICO was established as a crime, and why there was talk about it being applied to Trump aids so they would testify.

It's interesting that courts, trials, and the entire legal process can change depending on the expense of the lawyers involved. Most accused suspects probably can't afford an attorney, so they end up with a public defender. Someone in that position might get easily railroaded by the justice system.

But someone who can afford a big time, expensive lawyer who has a big staff, who will work diligently and find every possible loophole - and who knows how to game the system well - then the advantage shifts to the defense. The OJ case is a perfect example.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I see the real weight of the law bearing down upon him from Georgia and the Special prosecutor in the Jan 6 investigations. That's where the heavy duty stuff about sedition and treason may come to bear. We should hope so. And then I'm with you, that should stand a strong warning to those politicians who think they are above the law too. If we don't hold Trump accountable, then the floodgates will be opened wide to any and all crimes in high places.

All this over a porn star.

Funny how this goes from hush money allegations all the way over to Jan 6.

Quite an itinerary.

 

[Colt]

All this over a porn star.

Funny how this goes from hush money allegations all the way over to Jan 6.

Quite an itinerary.

Porn stars are a protected demographic.

 

[Colt]

 

[F1fan]

It's interesting that courts, trials, and the entire legal process can change depending on the expense of the lawyers involved. Most accused suspects probably can't afford an attorney, so they end up with a public defender. Someone in that position might get easily railroaded by the justice system.

But someone who can afford a big time, expensive lawyer who has a big staff, who will work diligently and find every possible loophole - and who knows how to game the system well - then the advantage shifts to the defense. The OJ case is a perfect example.

If you have seen documentaries on cases of wrongly convicted people it’s amazing that the legal system can be so bad for those without means. In some cases it is deliberate misconduct by police, prosecutors or experts in court. And then OJ is let off. It is not a fair system when there are unethical people involved.

My concern for the numerous Trump crimes is if an impartial jury can be seated. It only takes one MAGA who lies about their objectivity to hang a jury.

 

[Stevicus]

AP sources: Trump facing at least 1 felony charge in NY case

Former President Donald Trump is facing multiple charges of falsifying business records, including at least one felony offense, in the indictment handed down against him by a New York grand jury, two people familiar with the matter have told The Associated Press. Trump will be formally arrested...

apnews.com

Looks like the Republicans in Congress are rallying around Trump. It appears they're wanting to investigate Bragg and asking for grand jury testimony, documents, and copies of communications with the Justice Department. They also said the Trump campaign received $4 million in the first 24 hours after news of the indictment. But at least the streets were calm.

Congressional Republicans, as well as Trump himself, contend the whole matter is politically motivated.

“We urge you to refrain from these inflammatory accusations, withdraw your demand for information, and let the criminal justice process proceed without unlawful political interference,” Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg wrote to three Republican House committee chairs Friday in a letter obtained by The Associated Press.

The case is plunging the U.S. into uncharted legal waters, with Trump the first former president ever to face an indictment. And the political implications could be titanic ahead of next year’s presidential election. Trump is in the midst of running for president a third time and has said the case against him could hurt that effort — though his campaign is already furiously raising money by citing it.

The Trump campaign said it raised $4-plus million in the first 24 hours after news of the indictment broke.

Top Republicans also have begun closing ranks around him. House Speaker Kevin McCarthy has promised to use congressional oversight to probe Bragg. Reps. James Comer, Jim Jordan and Bryan Steil, the committee chairs whom Bragg addressed in his letter, have asked the district attorney’s office for grand jury testimony, documents and copies of any communications with the Justice Department.

 

[Revoltingest]

Geez....the fact that you have to posit such absurd straw man arguments,

That was your game.
I just played along.

 

[Revoltingest]

It's literally the definition of whataboutism.

Definition of WHATABOUTISM

the act or practice of responding to an accusation of wrongdoing by claiming that an offense committed by another is similar or worse; also : the response itself —called also whataboutery… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

": the act or practice of responding to an accusation of wrongdoing by claiming that an offense committed by another is similar or worse"

I don't take that as an offense. I'm simply pointing it out, as well as noting how it's a repeated pattern with @Revoltingest

Read better.
I accused Trump of worse crimes,
eg, insurrection, sedition, subversion.

 

[The Hammer]

All this over a porn star.

Funny how this goes from hush money allegations all the way over to Jan 6.

Quite an itinerary.

It's the illegal use of campaign money that is the problem.

If he had just paid hush money to a pornstar out of his personal accounts, it'd be no big deal.

But by making his lawyer pay it personally, and then to secretly pay his lawyer back said money via campaign contributions, IS illegal.

 

[The Hammer]

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My post above answers why this is an issue, and it isn't the context of the payment that is the issue (hush money to a pornstar). But where the funds came from.

 

[Windwalker]

All this over a porn star.

Funny how this goes from hush money allegations all the way over to Jan 6.

Quite an itinerary.

All this over Donald Trump's long history of crimes and his wanton disregard for the rule of law. It hardly begins or ends with a porn star. This is just the single stone that is about to bring down the avalanche of his comeuppance down upon his head.

 

[SomeRandom]

Except for Disney Township where Trump-DeSantis find themselves stymied by the folks who brought us Goofy and the Mouseketeers.

Beware the House of Mouse!!

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Good post, and you can pretty much tell which people here get their "news" from Fox, Breitbart, etc.

This isn't the first recent thread where you've made these kind of veiled statements.
Do you think I get my news from Fox, Breitbart, etc?
Why?

 

[lewisnotmiller]

All this over Donald Trump's long history of crimes and his wanton disregard for the rule of law. It hardly begins or ends with a porn star. This is just the single stone that is about to bring down the avalanche of his comeuppance down upon his head.

Legal proceedings shouldn't work that way. The straw that broke the camels back isn't a legal concept.

 

[Colt]

My post above answers why this is an issue, and it isn't the context of the payment that is the issue (hush money to a pornstar). But where the funds came from.

According to the NYT the money came from Trumps home equity, funneled through a shell corp which reimbursed Michael Cohen who paid the agreed upon amount that had been negotiated between lawyers for the non-disclosure agreement.

 

[Colt]

Dupe

 

[exchemist]

All this over a porn star.

Funny how this goes from hush money allegations all the way over to Jan 6.

Quite an itinerary.

It's not about a porn star. It's about fraud and breach of campaigning laws. And the decision to indict was made by a jury, not a prosecutor.

 

[Colt]

It's not about a porn star. It's about fraud and breach of campaigning laws. And the decision to indict was made by a jury, not a prosecutor.

The decision to reopen the inquiry was the DA’s and its political.

 

[exchemist]

The decision to reopen the inquiry was the DA’s and its political.

Doesn't matter. The decision that crimes have probably been committed is not political. If you break the law you must expect to get prosecuted. We'll have to wait and see how serious the charges are, of course. I imagine they will not be trivial.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

The decision to reopen the inquiry was the DA’s and its political.

Is there a way to hold a former President accountable that could not be construed as political? And if you are against political interference, how do you feel about Jim Jordan and his GOP colleagues interfering with the indictment?