Trump is reindicted.

[We Never Know]

Literally, yes. He walks a thin dotted line. Now if he has "turned", "bought", or "planted" his confederates in that department as it appears he has in other levels of that branch, namely the USSC, then his "order" would be coded as a suggestion, just as he did with his civilian confederates on J6.

I just wanted to be clear...

If someone claims Trump can "order" the DOJ to do things, then they need to admit Biden can do the same.

Or neither of them can "order" the DOJ to do anything.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Finally an answer!! Bravo for not dancing and dodging as the other posts have been.

Sometimes how good a man is can be shown by what he did not do. Biden could have done what Trump claims that he would do and at least get away with the attempt because there is not enough right wing strength in Congress to stop him from doing that. But he has never tried to use his power unethically. The same cannot be said about Trump at all. He too knew that he could get away with asking Georgia to find a specific number of votes for him. Well, he still might not get away with that we will have to see how the court cases go. But there is no doubt that was unethical. He has and is trying to affect election commissions so that he might "win" in some states even if he loses. There is no sign of Biden doing that.

Every time I see the MAGA accusing Biden of doing something it is always a wrong that they are trying to accomplish themselves or have boasted that they would do that.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I just wanted to be clear...

If someone claims Trump can "order" the DOJ to do things, then they need to admit Biden can do the same.

Or neither of them can "order" the DOJ to do anything.

I frankly do not know for sure if the DOJ would have to obey such an order. A President could try. Hopefully it will not work regardless of party if a President tries to do so. Trump has said that he would abuse the system that way. Biden let's his actions speak for him.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Zuremth

Leftists are dimwits.

MAGA never, ever, ever, ever address points about his multiple convictions and disgusting behaviour toward other humans, women and young girls.

Instead you go into angry mode and just lash out and call other people names. All while supporting a convicted felon, lifelong fraud, and sexual assaulter.

It's quite hilarious to me that you support such filth and then have the nerve to call other people dimwits. Just amazing.

 

[We Never Know]

Sometimes how good a man is can be shown by what he did not do. Biden could have done what Trump claims that he would do and at least get away with the attempt because there is not enough right wing strength in Congress to stop him from doing that. But he has never tried to use his power unethically. The same cannot be said about Trump at all. He too knew that he could get away with asking Georgia to find a specific number of votes for him. Well, he still might not get away with that we will have to see how the court cases go. But there is no doubt that was unethical. He has and is trying to affect election commissions so that he might "win" in some states even if he loses. There is no sign of Biden doing that.

Every time I see the MAGA accusing Biden of doing something it is always a wrong that they are trying to accomplish themselves or have boasted that they would do that.

I don't know if Biden has or hasn't done or influenced anything.
Frankly neither do you. Its not like that would be released to the public.

All one can do is assume Biden wouldn't do that.

 

[Spice]

I just wanted to be clear...

If someone claims Trump can "order" the DOJ to do things, then they need to admit Biden can do the same.

Or neither of them can "order" the DOJ to do anything.

Neither can officially ORDER another branch to do diddly squat. The only official power of the Executive branch has over the Legislative is the power of the veto, which can be overruled. The only power of the Executive branch has over the Judicial is the appointment of Federal judges, which still have to be approved by the Senate. Even as Commander-in-Chief of the military forces, the President cannot move without the Legislative branch. The President's most significant power comes under the rules/laws of "declared" war. Otherwise he is just the Figurehead, limited to the powerplays negotiated in private. And that is why we should not lose sight of the other names running down the ballots.

 

[We Never Know]

Neither can officially ORDER another branch to do diddly squat. The only official power of the Executive branch has over the Legislative is the power of the veto, which can be overruled. The only power of the Executive branch has over the Judicial is the appointment of Federal judges, which still have to be approved by the Senate. Even as Commander-in-Chief of the military forces, the President cannot move without the Legislative branch. The President's most significant power comes under the rules/laws of "declared" war. Otherwise he is just the Figurehead, limited to the powerplays negotiated in private. And that is why we should not lose sight of the other names running down the ballots.

So to be clear... Trump couldn't "order" the DOJ to throw out all his indictments, "order" the DOJ to pay him millions in a lawsuit, or etc.

Trump could ask or request it but not "order".

 

[SkepticThinker]

It's not an empty taunt at all. Leftists would have normal people believe they are defenders of "democracy" even though their candidate for president is not the by product of democracy. Either they are dimwits or they think everyone else is.

You mean the candidate who was voted in as VP in the last election, where the Presidential candidate was in his 80s?
LOL

Meanwhile, you support the guy who tried to overturn the results of a democratic election because he wanted to be the forever President. Mmkay.

We also learned recently that Zuckerberg "regrets" caving to pressure by the Biden administration to censor content on his platform. This must be leftists supporting free speech right? Again either leftists are dimwits or they believe everyone else is.

Free speech. Not blatant lies and misinformation masquerading as scientific medical information.
That kind of crap gets people killed.

 

[We Never Know]

We also learned recently that Zuckerberg "regrets" caving to pressure by the Biden administration to censor content on his platform. This must be leftists supporting free speech right? Again either leftists are dimwits or they believe everyone else is.

If it was misinformation I have no problem with that.

I mean I wouldn't want some one drinking bleach to kill covid because they saw it on social media(yeah there are probably people that are that ignorant out there)

 

[Ignatius A]

MAGA never, ever, ever, ever address points about his multiple convictions and disgusting behaviour toward other humans, women and young girls.

Instead you go into angry mode and just lash out and call other people names. All while supporting a convicted felon, lifelong fraud, and sexual assaulter.

It's quite hilarious to me that you support such filth and then have the nerve to call other people dimwits. Just amazing.

Im happy to address them. They are irrelevant to who should be president. Id vote for my dog before id vote for the Kamal/tampon ticket. The policies of them left can be summed up quite succinctly: "Orange man bad!" and thats precisely all your above post was about.

But I'm a reasonable guy so make your best argument right now for why I should vote for the Kamal/tampon team which doesnt include "Orange man bad".

 

[Ignatius A]

If it was misinformation I have no problem with that.

I mean I wouldn't want some one drinking bleach to kill covid because they saw it on social media(yeah there are probably people that are that ignorant out there)

If someone is stupid enough to drink bleach because someone told them to then we might be better off with out them son they don't procreate.

You don't see any potential problems with someone or some entity deciding for you what you can and cannot see???? Really?

 

[Subduction Zone]

I don't know if Biden has or hasn't done or influenced anything.
Frankly neither do you. Its not like that would be released to the public.

All one can do is assume Biden wouldn't do that.

There is no indication that he has done so. There would be no need for him to do so. The DOJ was going to go after the cause of January 6 with or without Presidential orders. What you have not owned up to is the fact that Trump said that he believes that he has that right. If I remember correctly I do believe that Trump did attempt to go after Hillary in such a way, but his handlers stopped him from doing so.

Let me see if I can find it.

 

[Subduction Zone]

There is no indication that he has done so. There would be no need for him to do so. The DOJ was going to go after the cause of January 6 with or without Presidential orders. What you have not owned up to is the fact that Trump said that he believes that he has that right. If I remember correctly I do believe that Trump did attempt to go after Hillary in such a way, but his handlers stopped him from doing so.

Let me see if I can find it.

Yep, Trump tried to do it. And this article answers why Biden has not done it:

Trump Wanted to Order Justice Dept. to Prosecute Comey and Clinton (Published 2018)

The encounter was one of the most blatant examples yet of how President Trump views the typically independent Justice Department as a tool to be wielded against his political enemies.

www.nytimes.com

"
President Trump told the White House counsel in the spring that he wanted to order the Justice Department to prosecute two of his political adversaries: his 2016 challenger, Hillary Clinton, and the former F.B.I. director James B. Comey, according to two people familiar with the conversation.

The lawyer, Donald F. McGahn II, rebuffed the president, saying that he had no authority to order a prosecution. Mr. McGahn said that while he could request an investigation, that too could prompt accusations of abuse of power. To underscore his point, Mr. McGahn had White House lawyers write a memo for Mr. Trump warning that if he asked law enforcement to investigate his rivals, he could face a range of consequences, including possible impeachment."

If Biden had done it, rather than allowing it to happen as it appears that he did, he could possibly have been facing charges as well.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Im happy to address them. They are irrelevant to who should be president. Id vote for my dog before id vote for the Kamal/tampon ticket. The policies of them left can be summed up quite succinctly: "Orange man bad!" and thats precisely all your above post was about.

But I'm a reasonable guy so make your best argument right now for why I should vote for the Kamal/tampon team which doesnt include "Orange man bad".

Your answer speaks volumes. Thanks.

So you think people vote in the vice president? No wonder you're a Democrat

As I told you last time we had such a lovely interaction - I'm not a Democrat.

Yes, the American people decided that Kamala Harris was good enough to be VP to a man who could potentially die during his Presidency.
You guys are just jealous that the Harris/Walz ticket has created such excitement, hope and joy to the Democratic party and that they're now overtaking your weird guys in the polls.

 

[Ignatius A]

Your answer speaks volumes. Thanks.

As I told you last time we had such a lovely interaction - I'm not a Democrat.

Yes, the American people decided that Kamala Harris was good enough to be VP to a man who could potentially die during his Presidency.
You guys are just jealous that the Harris/Walz ticket has created such excitement, hope and joy to the Democratic party and that they're now overtaking your weird guys in the polls.

I don't care what you are.

Vigers don't vote for the vp. She was selected strictly because of her genitals and her pigmentation by deluded racist old man. When she ran for president she couldn't get one delegate. Yeah they hired for her alright. You make up this level delusion.

 

[We Never Know]

If someone is stupid enough to drink bleach because someone told them to then we might be better off with out them son they don't procreate.

You don't see any potential problems with someone or some entity deciding for you what you can and cannot see???? Really?

There are plenty that try many stupid things from social media.

Here are a few...

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www.myhighplains.com

 

[Ignatius A]

There are plenty that try many stupid things from social media.

Here are a few...

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www.myhighplains.com

I'll ask you again, do you see any potential problems with someone or some entity deciding for you what you can and cannot see?

 

[We Never Know]

I'll ask you again, do you see any potential problems with someone or some entity deciding for you what you can and cannot see?

It all depends...
Is it false?
Will people try it? Especially kids?
Is it harmful
Is it deadly?
Is it illegal?
Is it etc?

For those no I dont have a problem in those being decided not to be on social media.

To be more clear if they are hiding truth I am 100% against it .

 

[Ignatius A]

It all depends...
Is it false?
Will people try it? Especially kids?
Is it harmful
Is it deadly?
Is it illegal?
Is it etc?

For those no I dont have a problem in those being decided not to be on social media.

To be more clear if they are hiding truth I am 100% against it .

How do you know they are hiding the truth if they decide what you can and cannot see?

And again who should get to decide what is

Is it false?
Will people try it? Especially kids?
Is it harmful
Is it deadly?
Is it illegal?
Is it etc?

I'm amazed at how myopic people can be.

 

[We Never Know]

How do you know they are hiding the truth if they decide what you can and cannot see?

No way to really know.

And again who should get to decide what is

Is it false?
Will people try it? Especially kids?
Is it harmful
Is it deadly?
Is it illegal?
Is it etc?

Those qualified. (Yeah I know who says they are qualified)

I'm amazed at how myopic people can be.

I am also not a fan of convicted criminals running for government offices but the constitution doesn't disallow that.
I doubt the founding fathers ever had a thought convicted criminals would hold high posistions in government.