Trump: "I've told them I want more weeks."

[We Never Know]

Yeah so, there has been movement in the attempt to clarify the positions since persons who wish to deny all the availability of an abortions for personal reasons and implied that the converse was to recomend abortions for no reason have seen the backlash to clarify the position as making abortion available as a choice.

Like many words movement has many meanings in different contexts, are you part of a movement in the morning after drinking your morning coffee?

So some of youns didn't realize they were movements and that's ok... But are you really that desperate that you want to know if I poop in the mornings lol

Btw I don't drink coffee.

 

[Argentbear]

A movement isn't a solution for everyone.

Half see a fetus as a baby
Half see it as basically a virus parasite

No one sees that and you know it. So the to you becomes why are you lying about this?

Half see abortion as taking a life
Half see abortion as a convenience

The only people who say abortion is a "convenience" seems to the ones lying about half the people seeing a fetus as a parasite

Some don't want abortions at all
Some are ok with abortion with exceptions
Some want abortions period

I could go on but... Those aren't going to change in my lifetime.

Not if the lies keep being repeated.

 

[We Never Know]

No one sees that and you know it. So the to you becomes why are you lying about this?

The only people who say abortion is a "convenience" seems to the ones lying about half the people seeing a fetus as a parasite

Not if the lies keep being repeated.

Its been said on this forum several times. Here's one example. So take you lie BS elsewhere.

I mean to be fair, science does actually categorise the fetus specifically as a parasite. Since on a biological level it does fit the criteria.

Is there more going on in a pregnancy?
I guess.
But it’s really up to the woman and those around her to attach emotional responses to said parasite.
Still. Theres a reason why a doctor is trained to prioritise the mother in an emergency. Simply put, as harsh as it sounds, the fetus is ultimately seen as disposable.

 

[Argentbear]

I've told this before I will make this a short version.
When I was in my early twentites I had a woman abort our child without telling me.
Six months later when we were talking about marriage she came clean.
It took both of us to make it, so IMO we both should have had a say about it.
Long story short, I walked away and never looked back.

If you weren't responsible enough to be using a condom then you probably were not responsible enough to be a father.

 

[We Never Know]

If you weren't responsible enough to be using a condom then you probably were not responsible enough to be a father.

Uhm I did use a condom. They aren't 100% but better than nothing.

So again you spout BS

 

[Argentbear]

Its been said on this forum several times. Here's one example. So take you lie BS elsewhere.

No, science does not classify a fetus as a parasite, but it does recognize that the fetus and placenta exhibit some parasitic characteristics. The Fetus isn't a foreign invader. it does not seek out a new host to transplant itself in. The fetus and mother have a symbiotic relationship not a parasitic relationship.
All that aside no one sees a fetus as a parasite and you know it.

 

[Pogo]

Its been said on this forum several times. Here's one example. So take you lie BS elsewhere.

Has anybody outside of this forum told you that you have a problem with overly literal understandings of the English language that lead you into misinterpretations of others? Many people have done it here, and we are not all that ignorant of the many meanings of words and their contexts.

 

[We Never Know]

No, science does not classify a fetus as a parasite, but it does recognize that the fetus and placenta exhibit some parasitic characteristics. The Fetus isn't a foreign invader. it does not seek out a new host to transplant itself in. The fetus and mother have a symbiotic relationship not a parasitic relationship.
All that aside no one sees a fetus as a parasite and you know it.

You said "no one sees them as a parasite.

I proved you wrong.

Suck it up and deal with it.

 

[We Never Know]

Has anybody outside of this forum told you that you have a problem with overly literal understandings of the English language that lead you into misinterpretations of others? Many people have done it here, and we are not all that ignorant of the many meanings of words and their contexts.

Lol. You grasp at more straws than most anyone I have ever seen.
What do you think 'parasite' means here?

Don't be shy give it your best shot.

I mean to be fair, science does actually categorise the fetus specifically as a parasite. Since on a biological level it does fit the criteria.

Is there more going on in a pregnancy?
I guess.
But it’s really up to the woman and those around her to attach emotional responses to said parasite.
Still. Theres a reason why a doctor is trained to prioritise the mother in an emergency. Simply put, as harsh as it sounds, the fetus is ultimately seen as disposable.

 

[F1fan]

From Axios:

Former President Trump said Thursday that an abortion limit banning the procedure after six weeks in Florida is "too short."​

​

The big picture: Trump, who has long boasted that he was the one who "was able to kill Roe v. Wade," has flip-flopped on his abortion stance, campaigning with a leave-it-to-the-states approach.​

Right, he's too much a coward to take a definitive position, just like he was too cowardly to set a national mandate during the pandemic.

• Although he once indicated he favored a national abortion ban, the 2024 GOP presidential candidate announced in April that he believes the issue should be left up to states to decide.

Zoom in: Trump, a Florida resident, was asked in an interview with NBC News Thursday how he would vote on an abortion amendment on the ballot in his home state this November​

• The ballot measure, if passed, would nix the state's six-week ban and enshrine abortion access until fetal viability (around 24–28 weeks of pregnancy) in the state constitution.
• "I think the six week is too short, there has to be more time," Trump said. "I've told them I want more weeks."
• Without explicitly answering if he'll vote in favor of the measure, he said, "I am going to be voting that we need more than six weeks."

And we still don't know how Trump will vote.

I'd be surprised if he ever comments about it. He is a coward who won't commit one way or the other on crucial but controversial issues.

 

[Pogo]

You said "no one sees them as a parasite.

I proved you wrong.

Suck it up and deal with it.

No, we know what the words mean even if you don't and insist on conflating colloquialisms.

 

[We Never Know]

No, we know what the words mean even if you don't and insist on conflating colloquialisms.

Well come on word meaning expert.
I'm just dying to see what you say parasite means and is referring to here. Dont be shy.

I mean to be fair, science does actually categorise the fetus specifically as a parasite. Since on a biological level it does fit the criteria.

Is there more going on in a pregnancy?
I guess.
But it’s really up to the woman and those around her to attach emotional responses to said parasite.
Still. Theres a reason why a doctor is trained to prioritise the mother in an emergency. Simply put, as harsh as it sounds, the fetus is ultimately seen as disposable.

 

[crossfire]

I've told this before I will make this a short version.
When I was in my early twentites I had a woman abort our child without telling me.
Six months later when we were talking about marriage she came clean.
It took both of us to make it, so IMO we both should have had a say about it.
Long story short, I walked away and never looked back.

You have to gain consent before having sex, and that consent ended when the sex act ended, and could have been withdrawn at any time during the sex act. You have to gain new consent for a new sex act. Why do you feel entitled to a woman's consent over her body afterwards, when she is pregnant, long after the consent to the sex act ended? You're not her pimp, to tell her she has to service others with her body.

 

[We Never Know]

You have to gain consent before having sex, and that consent ended when the sex act ended, and could have been withdrawn at any time during the sex act. You have to gain new consent for a new sex act. Why do you feel entitled to a woman's consent over her body afterwards, when she is pregnant, long after the consent to the sex act ended? You're not her pimp, to tell her she has to service others with her body.

We were engaged. Engaged people make decisions together.

And how you jumped to pimp and her servicing others is just WOW!

If that's how you were treated I feel sad for you.

 

[crossfire]

We were engaged. Engaged people make decisions together.

And how you jumped to pimp and her servicing others is just WOW!

If that's how you were treated I feel sad for you.

Well, the relationship between a mother and a fetus is more intimate than sex, and if you are telling her she must have this intimate relationship with someone else, what would you call that?

 

[Pogo]

Well come on word meaning expert.
I'm just dying to see what you say parasite means and is referring to here. Dont be shy.

It qualifies as a parasite in that it is a genetically different organism that takes nutrients and can influence bodily functions of its host and is unable to survive without the host.

 

[Argentbear]

You said "no one sees them as a parasite.

and you said half the people do

I proved you wrong.

Suck it up and deal with it.

Science views a fetus as a symbiont not a parasite and no woman any where has found out she is pregnant and "Damn I have a parasite."

 

[We Never Know]

It qualifies as a parasite in that it is a genetically different organism that takes nutrients and can influence bodily functions of its host and is unable to survive without the host.

So the fetus is being referred to as a parasite. Plain and simple

 

[We Never Know]

Well, the relationship between a mother and a fetus is more intimate than sex, and if you are telling her she must have this intimate relationship with someone else, what would you call that?

We were in a relationship(engaged).
We created our baby together
Of course her relationship with the baby is strong, she is carrying it, also carrying part of me.
So like it or not I was part of that pregnancy and should have been part of the decision of what happens to it.

 

[Argentbear]

It qualifies as a parasite in that it is a genetically different organism that takes nutrients and can influence bodily functions of its host and is unable to survive without the host.

same species
doesn't invade the host body but is actually part of it
Doesn't seek out a new host after maturation