Trump Or Haley?

[Evangelicalhumanist]

if you had to choose between Trump and Kennedy?
as the lesser evil?

Was that choice given in this thread?

 

[Koldo]

You're eligible to vote in a Republican primary.
You can choose between the 2 available.
The fall candidate will be one of these 2.
No write-ins.

Who would you vote for, & why?

No complaining about lack of other choices.
If you can't pick one, this thread's not for you.

Trump.
If I have to vote either in a highly conservative candidate or in a wrench tool, I am going to choose the wrench tool.

 

[Revoltingest]

During the Obama administration, these wars were started:
- Libyan war
- Syrian war
- Donbas war
- Yemen war

Not real wars.
But if you want to include minor military
actions, then Trump is quite the hawk.
First thing he did in office was increase
troops in war zones.
And he still didn't get USA out of Afghanistan.
Biden did that.

So...please...
and he even had the Nobel Prize for Peace?
Is that a joke? I want the Nobel Prize for Virginity, then.


He loves Europe.

Does Obama or Haley love Europe?

Loving Europe isn't a useful thing for USA.

 

[Revoltingest]

Trump.
If I have to vote either in a highly conservative candidate or in a wrench tool, I am going to choose the wrench tool.

What does "wrench tool" mean in this context?

 

[Estro Felino]

Not real wars.
But if you want to include minor military
actions, then Trump is quite the hawk.
First thing he did in office was increase
troops in war zones.
And he still didn't get USA out of Afghanistan.
Biden did that.

It's useless that you try to justify Obama. He started those wars.

Loving Europe isn't a useful thing for USA.

I can imagine that.
So Europe is free to love Russia...right? Thank you.
Since it has no bound with USA, according to you?

 

[Revoltingest]

It's useless that you try to justify Obama.

I've no need to justify Obama.
Your attacking him is pure whataboutism.
This suggests that you really do harbor some
doubts about Trump's ethics or sanity.
Otherwise, you'd dwell on him.

I can imagine that.
So Europe is free to love Russia...right? Thank you.
Since it has no bound with USA, according to you?

Well, many of you over their loved Hitler.
So loving Russia would be consistent.

 

[Estro Felino]

I've no need to justify Obama.
Your attacking him is pure whataboutism.
This suggests that you really do harbor some
doubts about Trump's ethics or sanity.
Otherwise, you'd dwell on him.

I assure you that Trump will win the pimaries.
So...this thread is pretty useless.
And you know why he will?

Because Americans are fed up with people who want wars, wars, wars.

 

[Koldo]

What does "wrench tool" mean in this context?

To throw a wrench. I do rather pick the one that is going to cause disruption than the one that will pretty much always act contrary to what I want.

 

[Samael_Khan]

You're eligible to vote in a Republican primary.
You can choose between the 2 available.
The fall candidate will be one of these 2.
No write-ins.

Who would you vote for, & why?

No complaining about lack of other choices.
If you can't pick one, this thread's not for you.

I picked Haley because she is Indian. Would be interesting to see an indian as the american president while Rishi Sunak is prime minister of Britain.

 

[Stevicus]

I assure you that Trump will win the pimaries.
So...this thread is pretty useless.
And you know why he will?

Because Americans are fed up with people who want wars, wars, wars.

It's hard to say how things will turn out, especially since much of this hinges on what may happen in court. Trump will probably win most of the primaries, but that's not the whole enchilada. There's also the upcoming convention, where all hell could break loose. July 15-18, in Milwaukee, of all places. Not that there's anything wrong with Milwaukee, but I expect it would attract a lot of protesters, both pro-Trump and anti-Trump. There may even be a fair amount of fireworks on the convention floor itself. (The Democratic Convention will be in August, in Chicago.)

 

[wellwisher]

I picked Haley. Because she's not Trump.

This sounds good, but Haley will be no match for the Democrat run Swamp, who will suddenly turn against her. Now they are being nice and even helping Haley by getting Democrats to register as Republican to vote in the Republican primary against Trump. Fake news is even helping Haley appeal to the Left.

If you recall, Trump was the darling of the Liberal Media, when the Republican primaries first began in 2016. He was considered a long shot. He would get lots of air time on CNN and Liberal Media, since he was seen as the spoiler, against Jeb Bush and the Republicans. Trump was doing damage against all the Republicans with his brash style, and his growing list of funny cartoon names. To be honest, at that time, I saw Trump as an outsider, that seemed to appeal to people in both parties, due to both FOX and CNN both showing positive coverage of Trump. As soon as Trump won the nomination, the Swamp immediately turned its other face to the shadier of its two faces. The two faced hypocrisy was done, and the scams and lies began; spying and the Collusion Coup.

Haley, if she was to get the Republican nomination, will not expect her supporting cast in the Swamp, to suddenly turn on her so, viscously. They will lie and make up things to harm her. They have no accountability for their shady games. Haley will not be used to this type of two faced behavior, nor can anyone ever quite get used to it. It will be 1000 against one, if you include fake news and all the Agency plants who will sabotage her agenda from within. She is a temporary tool who will not be allowed to fully succeed in the mind of the Swamp. She will be easy to take out by the back stabbers.

Trump is the exception, since he has been through this, already, and has been made hard and wiser by these scumbags. He is uniquely qualified; refined in the furnace of affliction, to given the Swamp a taste of their own medicine. Trump is perfect for the job of justice; as they have done to others, so he can do to them. Peace will come with justice.

Haley, like Trump before her; is/was only thinking about the long hard road to being elected. If we somehow elected, how will she organize the executive branch, to create a formable defense against the expected fake news and Swamp invasion? If she does not fill the Executive branch, with all the thousands of positions, fast, cancer will be left inside, to sabotage her.

Trump has already gone through this and made this mistake of trusting people to help him who were part of the Swamp. He has a plan, already, and he can be up and running, and buttoned up, almost immediately to avoid being behind the Swamp eight ball even before he starts. The Swamp is too well entrenched for, anyone not very well prepared; long shot. This is why they fear Trump, to where Swamp's lawlessness is not even hidden; use DOJ to attack a political opponent. The Swamp is like a criminal that is being tracked, that will keep breaking the law, to stay one step ahead. But Trump will get ahead and set a trap.

The old time Democrats should not be proud of the Swamp, since it is now harming blue color workers and minority citizens in favor of illegal immigrants. That move is more for the money of big Business; cheap labor, and not the needs of the middle class. What we have today is not the old time Democrat Party, that had a good heart and social agenda. It could end up that way, again, if the Swamp cancer is removed, so the Democrat party is not so far Left and made delirious with the swamp cooties.

The Swamp does not represent you, but will use you, again. They will not run on their record, since it will turn your stomach. They will run on fear, so you run away from the orange monster, toward an even worse swamp monster than 2016 and 2020.

 

[F1fan]

This sounds good, but Haley will be no match for the Democrat run Swamp, who will suddenly turn against her. Now they are being nice and even helping Haley by getting Democrats to register as Republican to vote in the Republican primary against Trump. Fake news is even helping Haley appeal to the Left.

If you recall, Trump was the darling of the Liberal Media, when the Republican primaries first began in 2016. He was considered a long shot. He would get lots of air time on CNN and Liberal Media, since he was seen as the spoiler, against Jeb Bush and the Republicans. Trump was doing damage against all the Republicans with his brash style, and his growing list of funny cartoon names. To be honest, at that time, I saw Trump as an outsider, that seemed to appeal to people in both parties, due to both FOX and CNN both showing positive coverage of Trump. As soon as Trump won the nomination, the Swamp immediately turned its other face to the shadier of its two faces. The two faced hypocrisy was done, and the scams and lies began; spying and the Collusion Coup.

Haley, if she was to get the Republican nomination, will not expect her supporting cast in the Swamp, to suddenly turn on her so, viscously. They will lie and make up things to harm her. They have no accountability for their shady games. Haley will not be used to this type of two faced behavior, nor can anyone ever quite get used to it. It will be 1000 against one, if you include fake news and all the Agency plants who will sabotage her agenda from within. She is a temporary tool who will not be allowed to fully succeed in the mind of the Swamp. She will be easy to take out by the back stabbers.

Trump is the exception, since he has been through this, already, and has been made hard and wiser by these scumbags. He is uniquely qualified; refined in the furnace of affliction, to given the Swamp a taste of their own medicine. Trump is perfect for the job of justice; as they have done to others, so he can do to them. Peace will come with justice.

Haley, like Trump before her; is/was only thinking about the long hard road to being elected. If we somehow elected, how will she organize the executive branch, to create a formable defense against the expected fake news and Swamp invasion? If she does not fill the Executive branch, with all the thousands of positions, fast, cancer will be left inside, to sabotage her.

Trump has already gone through this and made this mistake of trusting people to help him who were part of the Swamp. He has a plan, already, and he can be up and running, and buttoned up, almost immediately to avoid being behind the Swamp eight ball even before he starts. The Swamp is too well entrenched for, anyone not very well prepared; long shot. This is why they fear Trump, to where Swamp's lawlessness is not even hidden; use DOJ to attack a political opponent. The Swamp is like a criminal that is being tracked, that will keep breaking the law, to stay one step ahead. But Trump will get ahead and set a trap.

The old time Democrats should not be proud of the Swamp, since it is now harming blue color workers and minority citizens in favor of illegal immigrants. That move is more for the money of big Business; cheap labor, and not the needs of the middle class. What we have today is not the old time Democrat Party, that had a good heart and social agenda. It could end up that way, again, if the Swamp cancer is removed, so the Democrat party is not so far Left and made delirious with the swamp cooties.

The Swamp does not represent you, but will use you, again. They will not run on their record, since it will turn your stomach. They will run on fear, so you run away from the orange monster, toward an even worse swamp monster than 2016 and 2020.

The Swamp is MAGA. The far right wing citizens have swallowed too much toxic swamp water as they try to drown us all.

 

[F1fan]

I picked Haley because she is Indian. Would be interesting to see an indian as the american president while Rishi Sunak is prime minister of Britain.

Only if she promises Tandoori Chicken in every pot in America.

 

[Bthoth]

Can Democrats and dead people vote more than once as usual?

Only the ones in heaven.

 

[Stevicus]

The Swamp does not represent you, but will use you, again. They will not run on their record, since it will turn your stomach. They will run on fear, so you run away from the orange monster, toward an even worse swamp monster than 2016 and 2020.

So, the choice is between the swamp monster or the orange monster? Is that the bottom line?

In the long run, I think America will ultimately survive and get past these troubling times. I am at least somewhat optimistic that we will get through this. 10 years from now, we'll all be sitting around an RF campfire and laughing about all this. President Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez will certainly have this country up and moving into the future by that time.

 

[Samael_Khan]

Only if she promises Tandoori Chicken in every pot in America.

I am for the del and Bryani in every spot in the world. Aid war by giving everybody curry to win their hearts.

 

[Revoltingest]

I assure you that Trump will win the pimaries.

I too have confidence that fools, trolls,
dupes, & dullards will support him.

 

[Revoltingest]

To throw a wrench. I do rather pick the one that is going to cause disruption than the one that will pretty much always act contrary to what I want.

It all depends on the kind & severity
of expected disruption. Trump's record
in office shows the worst kind.

 

[Soandso]

Haley. Less crimes

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

You're eligible to vote in a Republican primary. You can choose between the 2 available.

If I hated America, then Trump. If I were a conservative and patriotic, I'd choose Haley. But I'm a liberal, and therefore choose Trump, since as others have noted, he's most beatable, and if he were to win, he's probably among the least competent MAGA. His interest would be more in grifting and consolidating power than advancing others' scorched earth or totalitarian agendas. Also, he surrounds himself with the incompetent like Bannon, Stone, and Giuliani just he hired a multitude of incompetent attorneys. Incompetent criminals are preferable to smart ones.

Trump had been saying for years that the war should end "immediately". He had 4 years to do it. "Immediately" never arrived. It took Biden to actually end it.

His replacement for Obamacare was just two weeks away, as was his infrastructure initiative, and then this would have been next, but he ran out of time after just four years.

if you had to choose between Trump and Kennedy? as the lesser evil?

Kennedy. He's just a conspiracy nut, but probably not malicious.

Be content with Kennedy, or you'll lose all.

I understand that you're European, but Kennedy can't beat anybody, because like Pence, he's disliked by both the right and left. Biden is the left's strongest and most electable candidate.

I think Robert Kennedy is the only Democrat I like.

That's not surprising.

Also, you wouldn't vote for him if he ran as a Democrat, and neither would I however he ran. As I said, he's unelectable.