Trump or Malcolm X

[Spiderman]

The prophet Malcolm (peace be upon him) was my favorite Muslim, killed by his own fellow Nation of Islam two days after making that last comment. He was more of a conservative than most conservatives. If he founded the Religion of Islam, I'd have nothing negative to say about Islam. I'd say, the prophet was faithful to his wife and was real with people. He was courageous, honest, and worthy of respect. He pointed out the errors of Elijah Muhammad, and refused to kiss anyone's ***.

The white liberal differs from the white conservative only in one way: the liberal is more deceitful than the conservative.
—Malcolm X

X is one of my heroes and a martyr, so I prefer him over other politicians. Trump I consider less fake than any president in my lifetime. But I'm almost positive X would outdo Trump in honesty, integrity, and sincerity, hence Malcolm X wins my vote.

He taught me to be honest and suffer the consequences, and if I have liberal friends who reject me being real, they were not my friends.

X would prefer Trump over Hillary Clinton.

It is with a heavy and slightly anxious heart that I would start a thread like this, wondering if I did the right thing, but I feel it is worthwhile and hope Saint Malcolm approves of this message. (I'm not the best at knowing how my ghost posse feels. But I know that being fake is what would **** him off most).

I'm considered racist by many liberal standards, so guilty as charged. I'm not gonna beat around the bush for RF's approval. But when I meet an honest black man or woman of integrity, courage, or true charity (as opposed to false-charity) my heart is moved with admiration for them even more than for white people with the same qualities.

I hope to share Malcolm's fate...to die quickly for what I believe. I hope to meet him. If he didn't make it to heaven, I don't care to be there worshipping a God who punishes honest, courageous people of integrity.

If both were running, and you had to choose Trump or Malcolm X for President, who would you choose?
Is It Time For Conservatives To Re-Evaluate Malcolm X?

 

[Spiderman]

"Hillary Clinton is as fake as they come" is a quote I would expect from Malcolm if he were alive today. X would see right through her.

 

[Mindmaster]

If you had to choose Trump or Malcolm X for President, who would you choose?
Is It Time For Conservatives To Re-Evaluate Malcolm X?

X is dead, so not much to do there. Secondly, he advocated violence so most conservatives would be against him.

 

[Spiderman]

Malcolm thought that government handouts were hurting black people more than helping them.

if Donald Trump were born black, I think he would be one of Malcolm's followers.

 

[Spiderman]

X is dead, so not much to do there. Secondly, he advocated violence so most conservatives would be against him.

Okay smart***, I edited my post.

And your second sentence is a joke right?

 

[Spiderman]

Conservatives who are against the man would be people who do not value honesty.

If I was his target, I would ask to shake the hand of a better person than myself before he runs me through.

 

[Spiderman]

Saint Malcolm,
If you are reading this, I sell my soul to you, confess my sins to you, consecrate my life to you. Now, take possession of this white boy, for I could accomplish so much more if I was you rather than myself.

Amen!

 

[Valjean]

"Hillary Clinton is as fake as they come" is a quote I would expect from Malcolm if he were alive today. X would see right through her.

Who brought up Clinton, and why is she more fake than any other politician?

Malcolm thought that government handouts were hurting black people more than helping them.

if Donald Trump were born black, I think he would be one of Malcolm's followers.

I doubt it. Malcolm was an idealist -- albeit an angry one. Trump is more narcissist than idealist.

 

[Spiderman]

Who brought up Clinton, and why is she more fake than any other politician?

I doubt it. Malcolm was an idealist -- albeit an angry one. Trump is more narcissist than idealist.

I brought up Clinton because I see a fake person in both her and her husband.

Why on Earth did she even stay with the man?

I think she lied about the emails and the cattle fraud. I wouldn't be surprised if she was okay with what her husband did with Monica Lewinsky.

Also, I'm fairly good at reading people.

X would recognize that she tickles people's ears for the votes and that she really isn't a friend of his people.

If I misjudged her, then I repent.

My discernment and gut just tells me she's a fake, or at least far from being a hero.

I think it would be great if America had a good female president.

Hillary would have dragged America back by being the first female president, because she was not a virtuous person. We need a strong honest female president of integrity to show all people that women can do the job well.

Hillary just isn't that person, in my humble opinion.

 

[Spiderman]

Im sorry, I should not have attributed a quote to Malcolm X were he still alive.

What I know is that he found liberals to be very fake, even more so than conservatives.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Stop projecting your own values and prejudices onto Malcolm the tenth.

 

[Spiderman]

Stop projecting your own values and prejudices onto Malcolm the tenth.

He and I disagree on all kinds of things.

I'm saying he was real with people, courageous, faithful to his wife, had integrity, and would not compromise.

That much I know.

 

[Spiderman]

Pathological Liars will often say "what" or repeat a question with a question, and do strange things with their eyes, posture, hands, and brow as they think of something false to say.

X always apparently had a witty response to the questions people made to him.

He wasn't hiding anything from anyone.

But I never met the guy, and only God knows what's in his heart.

I feel very strongly that he was a genuine honest person, at least after he got out of prison.

I used to be a liar, and now I know to be honest at all times, and never front like I'm something I'm not.

I find honesty and being real to be easier than telling lies or trying to be fake.

one reason I value honesty, is it's one of those few things that I know I can do well if I simply put my mind to it and don't give people any reason to lie.

I believe God values honesty as well.

 

[Mindmaster]

Okay smart***, I edited my post.

And your second sentence is a joke right?

No, he believed in radicalism and that all real revolutions are non-peaceful. Why would you think I am joking? How much about Mr. X do you know?

 

[Spiderman]

No, he believed in radicalism and that all real revolutions are non-peaceful. Why would you think I am joking? How much about Mr. X do you know?

Yes I know that.

I'm saying that the idea that conservatives would reject violence I thought to be a joke. How much do you know about conservatives?

 

[Mindmaster]

Yes I know that.

I'm saying that the idea that conservatives would reject violence I thought to be a joke. How much do you know about conservatives?

Where are conservatives violent other than when they've been provoked by liberals? (That's to say, in response to violence they are receiving.)

 

[Spiderman]

To thine own self be true.

You have to look at yourself in the mirror and you have to look into your heart.

The truth will be known and come to light.

Being dishonest or fake brings about shame, guilt, regret, and in my opinion alienates the person from God.

 

[Spiderman]

Where are conservatives violent other than when they've been provoked by liberals? (That's to say, in response to violence they are receiving.)

Did a conservative start the war on terror?

Liberals and conservatives have been quite violent in history. Hitler and Mussolini killed a lot of liberals and leftists. Joseph Stalin, Mao, and pol pot killed a lot of right-wingers.

There are non-violent people on both sides as well.

Malcolm argued that Liberals are more dishonest however.

 

[Valjean]

I brought up Clinton because I see a fake person in both her and her husband.

Why on Earth did she even stay with the man?

He was her husband? to whom she'd promised to remain faithful for better or worse?

I think she lied about the emails and the cattle fraud. I wouldn't be surprised if she was okay with what her husband did with Monica Lewinsky.

Why do you say she lied about the "cattle fraud? (this was back in the '70s). Why do you call it a fraud? Inside trading was suspected, but there was never even an investigation.

E-mails? What e-mail controversy are you referring to? What are you alleging she did?
If anyone misused e-mails, I was Trump:
Donald Trump's companies destroyed or hid documents in defiance of court orders

Also, I'm fairly good at reading people.

X would recognize that she tickles people's ears for the votes and that she really isn't a friend of his people.

If I misjudged her, then I repent.

My discernment and gut just tells me she's a fake, or at least far from being a hero.

Perhaps the right's massive propaganda and disinformation campaign had something to do with it.

Hillary would have dragged America back by being the first female president, because she was not a virtuous person. We need a strong honest female president of integrity to show all people that women can do the job well.

Hillary just isn't that person, in my humble opinion.

Her previous political record was considered good. It was only after she became a candidate that the anti-Hillary campaign began. I suspect she would have pretty much maintained the political status quo
https://www.politicususa.com/2016/04/02/stop-parroting-gop-lies-hillary-clinton-dishonest.html
PolitiFact | Comparing Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump on the Truth-O-Meter

 

[Spiderman]

He was her husband? to whom she'd promised to remain faithful for better or worse?
Why do you say she lied about the "cattle fraud? (this was back in the '70s). Why do you call it a fraud? Inside trading was suspected, but there was never even an investigation.

E-mails? What e-mail controversy are you referring to? What are you alleging she did?
If anyone misused e-mails, I was Trump:
Donald Trump's companies destroyed or hid documents in defiance of court orders

Perhaps the right's massive propaganda and disinformation campaign had something to do with it.
Her previous political record was considered good. It was only after she became a candidate that the anti-Hillary campaign began. I suspect she would have pretty much maintained the political status quo
https://www.politicususa.com/2016/04/02/stop-parroting-gop-lies-hillary-clinton-dishonest.html
PolitiFact | Comparing Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump on the Truth-O-Meter

If I misjudged her, I repent.

She has the appearance of being a very fake person in my opinion.

It's just a feeling I get in my guts.

Trump blurts out his errors. But I don't claim him to be honest either.