Trump Plans Mars Colony With Musk

[Pogo]

I'd rather fund space elevator research....if
it can be shown even possible (either on
Earth or the Moon). It would be a hugely
enabling technology to cut the cost & risk
of space exploration.

Space elevator - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It is materials science, the physics is real, just we need a material strong enough to support the weight,
right now the closest IIRC is spider silk.

 

[Revoltingest]

It is materials science, the physics is real, just we need a material strong enough to support the weight,
right now the closest IIRC is spider silk.

I'd use unobtanium.
Failing that, it would be illudium, wishalloy,
or eludium (not to be confused with the
Martian explosive, eludium Q-36).

 

[Pogo]

I'd use unobtanium.
Failing that, it would be illudium, wishalloy,
or eludium (not to be confused with the
Martian explosive, eludium Q-36).

Which must be why Musk wants to go to Mars, so he can mine them and have a monopoly for US.

 

[Twilight Hue]

What, in 5 billion years? I think we have more pressing concerns right now on this planet imo

The earlier the better. I think.

 

[We Never Know]

I'd use unobtanium.
Failing that, it would be illudium, wishalloy,
or eludium (not to be confused with the
Martian explosive, eludium Q-36).

It can be found under the hometree on Pandora

 

[Pogo]

I'd use unobtanium.
Failing that, it would be illudium, wishalloy,
or eludium (not to be confused with the
Martian explosive, eludium Q-36).

Marvin was always my favorite.

 

[Revoltingest]

Which must be why Musk wants to go to Mars, so he can mine them and have a monopoly for US.

Musk told Trump Mars has big deposits
of those ores, & they're easy to mine.

 

[Revoltingest]

It can be found under the hometree on Pandora

Mars first.
Then Pandora.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

So, @Revoltingest, in listening to Harris speak to the Economic Club of Pittsburgh today, one of the things she mentioned is increasing the $5,000 tax exemption for start-up costs for small businesses to $50,000, because, as she said, it's just about impossible to start a small business on $5,000.

She will focus on lowering costs for Americans by:

• cutting taxes for middle-class families (that's not price controls)
• $6,000 for new parents in a child's first year
• cut costs of child and elder care
• ensure all have access to paid leave, to care for senior, children and other's (home care costs way less than institutionalized care)
• reduce the cost of housing by:
  • cutting red tape that sstops housing from being built
  • take on corporate landlords hiking rents in price-gouging situations
  • work with developers to build 3 million homes (driving down housing costs in part by increasing supply)
  • $25,000 downpayment assistance

Now, I have to say that sounds good. Small business do drive a great deal of the economy, and if they get off to a good start, they eventually becoming net tax-paying businesses. And wealth is created by those doing the work, not so much by those profiting from it.

 

[Pogo]

So, @Revoltingest, in listening to Harris speak to the Economic Club of Pittsburgh today, one of the things she mentioned is increasing the $5,000 tax exemption for start-up costs for small businesses to $50,000, because, as she said, it's just about impossible to start a small business on $5,000.

She will focus on lowering costs for Americans by:

• cutting taxes for middle-class families (that's not price controls)
• $6,000 for new parents in a child's first year
• cut costs of child and elder care
• ensure all have access to paid leave, to care for senior, children and other's (home care costs way less than institutionalized care)
• reduce the cost of housing by:
  • cutting red tape that sstops housing from being built
  • take on corporate landlords hiking rents in price-gouging situations
  • work with developers to build 3 million homes (driving down housing costs in part by increasing supply)
  • $25,000 downpayment assistance

Now, I have to say that sounds good. Small business do drive a great deal of the economy, and if they get off to a good start, they eventually becoming net tax-paying businesses. And wealth is created by those doing the work, not so much by those profiting from it.

A lot more valuable than cutting top corporate tax rate by 30 % in hopes that giving large corporations a profit boost will trickle down like they have been promising since Ronnie Rayguns. Instead, the difference between the corparatists and everybody else has only increased to hundreds of times the family wealth.

And that is before we add tariffs to recover the losses to the government that we pay.

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

Are you against pace exploration and development generally, or just when it involves Trump and Musk?

I've stopped listening to Trump. He speaks ex culo. He makes promises he doesn't need to keep to do things he doesn't know how to do hoping to deceive somebody to vote for him because of it.

hey folks. He didn’t say the colony would be built during his term.

"We want to reach Mars by the end of my term," Trump promised his supporters in the Tar Heel state.

You can decide for yourself what that means.

We just began watching that movie again last night for the first time since seeing it in the theaters when it was released ("ack! ack! ack!"). I hadn't remembered how many celebrities appeared in it. I've never seen such a star-studded cast since It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World (IMDB entry with cast).

I knew all of the following names and faces:

One character stumped me, but my wife recognized Jack Nicholson here, who also played the US president. I was thinking Owen Wilson, but this actor was older than Wilson was in 1996:

 

[Revoltingest]

So, @Revoltingest, in listening to Harris speak to the Economic Club of Pittsburgh today, one of the things she mentioned is increasing the $5,000 tax exemption for start-up costs for small businesses to $50,000, because, as she said, it's just about impossible to start a small business on $5,000.

It all depends upon the kind of business one starts.
I'd prefer that she address onerous regulations &
policies that impede starting a new business.
But that would require more words to say, & likely
be less powerful than pandering with a give-away.

She will focus on lowering costs for Americans by:

• cutting taxes for middle-class families (that's not price controls)

The fact that she promised price controls isn't
washed away by promising tax cuts to the
biggest voter block.
Must you make me say it?
OK....
Duh!

• $6,000 for new parents in a child's first year
• cut costs of child and elder care

What does that even mean?
Price controls? Wage controls?
Spending limits? Tax deductions?

• ensure all have access to paid leave, to care for senior, children and other's (home care costs way less than institutionalized care)

Someone will pay.
Who?

• reduce the cost of housing by:
  • cutting red tape that sstops housing from being built

The red tape is at township, city, & state level.
Perhaps she can use the bully pulpit to address
this, but she has no real power to force anything.

• • take on corporate landlords hiking rents in price-gouging situations

Only landlords that are corporations?
National rent control?
Stupid on steroids.

• • work with developers to build 3 million homes (driving down housing costs in part by increasing supply)
  • $25,000 downpayment assistance

Does "work with" mean anything specific & practical?
Or just vague pablum-promising pandering...aping
Trump's style?

Now, I have to say that sounds good.

It's designed to sound good.
High flying promises.
Take from few Pauls to give to the many Peters.
No specifics.

Small business do drive a great deal of the economy, and if they get off to a good start, they eventually becoming net tax-paying businesses. And wealth is created by those doing the work, not so much by those profiting from it.

Small businesses are great.
So are medium & large ones.
But those are for attacking.
They're boogeymen who do the "price gouging",
so that she can sell rent control & other socialist
leaning takeovers of the private sector.
She's dumb & authoritarian.
Just far less so than Trump.

 

[Heyo]

I'd rather fund space elevator research....if
it can be shown even possible (either on
Earth or the Moon). It would be a hugely
enabling technology to cut the cost & risk
of space exploration.

Space elevator - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

On Earth, even carbon nanotubes would barely make it possible and on the moon a Linear Accelerator would be a better option to orbit resources. We will have space elevators eventually, but they are technological more complex than other methods and have a high initial investment for a relatively small possible payload.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

We just began watching that movie again last night for the first time since seeing it in the theaters when it was released ("ack! ack! ack!"). I hadn't remembered how many celebrities appeared in it. I've never seen such a star-studded cast since It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World (IMDB entry with cast).

At last! Somebody other than me who remembers It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World!

 

[amorphous_constellation]

This bromance is bad for the country.

Trump vows to start a Mars colony with Elon Musk – if he becomes President

Trump has also pledged to reveal UFO close encounter videos from the real-life X-Files if he is elected back to the White House, and claims he will force the Pentagon to declassify the footage

www.dailystar.co.uk

Excerpted...
Donald Trump has vowed to reach Mars if he wins the presidential campaign.

The orange manbaby, 78, wants the US to reach the Red Planet “by the end of my term”. He also wants there to be “great military protection in space”.

The Republican presidential candidate said he will “talk” to SpaceX boss Elon Musk about getting the mission going. He told supporters in North Carolina: “We want to reach Mars by the end of my term.

eh... maybe it's for the best that we try to get up there. I mean, if it's between getting a boatload of resources and land, and something going wrong with the paper notes we trade down here, then I don't know, maybe going up there is a long-term win. Though I will think it will take a long time, and it's debatable if we should, before we figure out how to operate this place down here properly

Space protection might be an issue, you recall that this past summer there was some kind of a new security problem they talked about as coming from space

 

[Pogo]

On Earth, even carbon nanotubes would barely make it possible and on the moon a Linear Accelerator would be a better option to orbit resources. We will have space elevators eventually, but they are technological more complex than other methods and have a high initial investment for a relatively small possible payload.

Whatever we have to remember this is being proposed by the person who thinks it is better to tangle with a shark than learn about electric propulsion which has only been around for a hundred plus years and is integral to every atomic submarine built.

But he promises to solve all our problems without any understanding at all.

 

[amorphous_constellation]

The world only has so many intellectual resources every generation.. it's a question of what you want them to focus on , to make 'progress,' if you believe in progress. There are plenty of issues down here, though perhaps different countries disagree on what they are. The question is, if we have all our mental power focused on trying to fix things that can't really be fixed down here, then that's a waste of energy if it could have been spent going somewhere else. But the counter-argument to that, is if we can't fix the earth, then maybe we don't deserve to escape to mars or the moon, or whatever. But then again, maybe that can buy some time

 

[amorphous_constellation]

Making large space stations to live in is probably a better idea, before going to another planet. Big giant space stations with forests and farms

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

At last! Somebody other than me who remembers It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World!

I'm coming, Mamma! Your baby's coming!

 

[Dan From Smithville]

This bromance is bad for the country.

Trump vows to start a Mars colony with Elon Musk – if he becomes President

Trump has also pledged to reveal UFO close encounter videos from the real-life X-Files if he is elected back to the White House, and claims he will force the Pentagon to declassify the footage

www.dailystar.co.uk

Excerpted...
Donald Trump has vowed to reach Mars if he wins the presidential campaign.

The orange manbaby, 78, wants the US to reach the Red Planet “by the end of my term”. He also wants there to be “great military protection in space”.

The Republican presidential candidate said he will “talk” to SpaceX boss Elon Musk about getting the mission going. He told supporters in North Carolina: “We want to reach Mars by the end of my term.

They're going to mess around, get them Martians all riled up end up human heads on dogs body. Maybe the same body and not necessarily the front of it.