Trump promises "full pardons, apology" to Capitol rioters if elected.

[Revoltingest]

This is a very difficult job for a special master. He or she might need a rather high security clearance. Plus the special master would have to able to close their eyes to other crimes that were not included in the search warrant. It is not a job that I would want.

Security clearances aren't a problem.

 

[Revoltingest]

Sure, and pick whichever one suits your purpose at the moment!

That's how it works for many.
Law & order to some is breaking the law for their
own benefit, yet raining down the wrath of Cthulhu
upon some poor slob who jaywalked.

 

[Revoltingest]

But in this case of executive privilege he doesn’t have any,he’s plain mr Trump and all the documents have been studied and separated by the executive division plus there is no precedent for one in this case as I see it.

Trump has some major privilege afforded ex-Presidents who committed crimes. De facto can be more powerful than de juro.

 

[F1fan]

OK... so, what you are saying is 105 a term is ok but 143 isn't... which the line so I can make sure I write to them at that point and say "stop"?

Trump shouldn't have pardoned so many people because now he will have fewer friends on the inside. Gotta think ahead.

 

[Revoltingest]

Trump shouldn't have pardoned so many people because now he will have fewer friends on the inside. Gotta think ahead.

You think he'll actually spend time in prison?
I'll bet he never sees a day inside.
I hope I'm wrong.

 

[Subduction Zone]

You think he'll actually spend time in prison?
I'll bet he never sees a day inside.
I hope I'm wrong.

You are probably right. In a jury trial it would be very hard to convict him. It would take only one Trumpista to get a hung jury. Part of the reason that he has not been indicted yet is because it would be very difficult to have a good chance of convicting him. We have seen it here when it comes to denying the obvious by so many supporters of his.

 

[F1fan]

You think he'll actually spend time in prison?
I'll bet he never sees a day inside.
I hope I'm wrong.

We can't expect him to find competent legal representation, so the odds are against him at every level. But he will find someone who can slow down the process and he will likely not live long enough to see a sentencing. Regardless of his fate he is ruined and going down little by little. I think he is aware what he is. The guy knows how to create drama, and this is free entertainment at his peril. No matter what, he's not going to win anything ever again.

 

[Revoltingest]

You are probably right. In a jury trial it would be very hard to convict him. It would take only one Trumpista to get a hung jury. Part of the reason that he has not been indicted yet is because it would be very difficult to have a good chance of convicting him. We have seen it here when it comes to denying the obvious by so many supporters of his.

If the prosecutor charges him with crimes facing
1 year or less in prison, the judge can unilaterally
waive his right to a jury trial under the Petty
Offense Doctrine. (SCOTUS gutted the right to
a jury trial some time ago.) A bench trial would
be more likely to achieve justice.

 

[Revoltingest]

We can't expect him to find competent legal representation, so the odds are against him at every level.

Trump will certainly be able to find competent representation.
Just perhaps not the ones he'd first have in mind. (He tends
to burn his bridges.) The important thing for Trump is to find
unethical lawyers who'll use every corrupt trick in the book.
And such malefactors abound.

 

[Subduction Zone]

If the prosecutor charges him with crimes facing
1 year or less in prison, the judge can unilaterally
waive his right to a jury trial under the Petty
Offense Doctrine. (SCOTUS gutted the right to
a jury trial some time ago.) A bench trial would
be more likely to achieve justice.

A link would be nice. I am not seeing that. For something that has no jail time I see ould agree. But misdemeanors appear to qualify for a jury trial.

 

[Revoltingest]

A link would be nice. I am not seeing that. For something that has no jail time I see ould agree. But misdemeanors appear to qualify for a jury trial.

https://www.stephankinsella.com/wp-content/uploads/texts/lynch_petty-offense.pdf
Many here loathe the Cato Institute, but they're one
of our major defenders of civil liberty, along with The
Institute For Justice & The ACLU. So even our
anti-libertarian liberal friends should read this link.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Less than six months at the max.. Hardly seems to be worth the effort.