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Trump Says He Had Every Right to Interfere in the 2020 Election

Wandering Monk

Well-Known Member
He accuses his opponents of doing it, then admits to it himself.

He admitted to election interference. I hope Jack Smith and Fani Willis get their hands on this interview.

"Actually, but you know the good news it's so crazy that my poll numbers go up. Whoever heard you get indicted for interfering with a presidential election, where you have every right to do it, you get indicted, and your poll numbers go up. When people get indicted your pull numbers go down," Trump said during the second part of a recorded interview that aired Sunday night.​

More juicy bits here:

 

HonestJoe

Well-Known Member
He accuses his opponents of doing it, then admits to it himself.
To be fair, I think that's always been his stated position; He doesn't deny many of the reported events and actions took place (and couldn't, given than many were recorded or otherwise strongly evidenced) but he asserts that nothing he did or said was inappropriate in the context of what he claims was a "stolen election".

I'm pretty sure that legally speaking, even it the election had actually been stolen, the alleged actions wouldn't have been legal, so I think he's wrong, but at least he has been fairly consistently wrong on this point. :cool:
 

Jayhawker Soule

-- untitled --
Premium Member
Apparently, the big "Breaking News" appears to be the following statement by Trump:

"Whoever heard you get indicted for interfering with a presidential election, where you have every right to do it, you get indicted, and your poll numbers go up."​

<yawn>

For me to say, for example, that one has every right to hit someone over the head with a box of Cheerios may be right or wrong, but what it is clearly NOT is a claim/admission that I have done so.​

</yawn>
 

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
He accuses his opponents of doing it, then admits to it himself.

He admitted to election interference. I hope Jack Smith and Fani Willis get their hands on this interview.

"Actually, but you know the good news it's so crazy that my poll numbers go up. Whoever heard you get indicted for interfering with a presidential election, where you have every right to do it, you get indicted, and your poll numbers go up. When people get indicted your pull numbers go down," Trump said during the second part of a recorded interview that aired Sunday night.​

More juicy bits here:

What was not widely known at the time; November 2020, was the US Government, on behalf of the DNC and Biden, pressured social media to censor the Hunter Biden laptop story, as well as censor and shadow ban Conservative voices. This wide scale electron interference should have required an investigation and then an election redo.

The problem was the DNC covered up their election interference, to run out the clock, until they stole the election. Trump, as President a that time, had a sworn duty to defend the Constitution against the enemies of the state both foreign and domestic. There were plenty of domestic enemies. He was aware of their crime and coverup, since he has already seen the laptop and the FBI had already confirmed it before the election, but withheld that evidence as part of the coverup.

To make this fair so we can move on, how many voters think Trump and RNC should have their turn to control all social media this cycle, and shadow ban all fake news as disinformation? Would that make any difference and assure Trump's victory, like it did the DNC?

The same cheat occurred last time and crooks have yet to see justice. After Trump wins, if he was not allowed to have full control of social media, with a formal proclamation, to balance this off, he may need to round up all the conspirators, whose deception and crimes led to the Jan 6 riots. Jan 6, was protest against that steal, due to the corruption and coverup needing to be stopped and investigated. There are no statute of limitation on election stealing. One way or another things need to balance out.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Apparently, the big "Breaking News" appears to be the following statement by Trump:

"Whoever heard you get indicted for interfering with a presidential election, where you have every right to do it, you get indicted, and your poll numbers go up."​

<yawn>

For me to say, for example, that one has every right to hit someone over the head with a box of Cheerios may be right or wrong, but what it is clearly NOT is a claim/admission that I have done so.​

</yawn>
You have to think about it in context. If a person has denied that he struck someone else over the head with a box of Cheerios after he was charged with it and there was evidence of that sort of action stating that you had every right to strike a person over the head is not quite admitting it, but indicates rather strongly to most the he did. Otherwise why make such an obviously false claim? Yes, it is a bit overblown. I like the Meidas Touch guys, but they tend to overstate things so I rarely use them myself as a source. I think that I have done so only once or twice when they were explaining the law, and as lawyers they tend to get that right. But they do tend to hype up any error of Trump's excessively.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
What was not widely known at the time; November 2020, was the US Government, on behalf of the DNC and Biden, pressured social media to censor the Hunter Biden laptop story, as well as censor and shadow ban Conservative voices. This wide scale electron interference should have required an investigation and then an election redo.

The problem was the DNC covered up their election interference, to run out the clock, until they stole the election. Trump, as President a that time, had a sworn duty to defend the Constitution against the enemies of the state both foreign and domestic. There were plenty of domestic enemies. He was aware of their crime and coverup, since he has already seen the laptop and the FBI had already confirmed it before the election, but withheld that evidence as part of the coverup.

To make this fair so we can move on, how many voters think Trump and RNC should have their turn to control all social media this cycle, and shadow ban all fake news as disinformation? Would that make any difference and assure Trump's victory, like it did the DNC?

The same cheat occurred last time and crooks have yet to see justice. After Trump wins, if he was not allowed to have full control of social media, with a formal proclamation, to balance this off, he may need to round up all the conspirators, whose deception and crimes led to the Jan 6 riots. Jan 6, was protest against that steal, due to the corruption and coverup needing to be stopped and investigated. There are no statute of limitation on election stealing. One way or another things need to balance out.
No, Hunter Biden had nothing to do with the election. That was just a Republican red herring. Why are you not complaining about the billions that Jared got from Saudi Arabia? All of Trump's kids profited excessively from his period in office. Biden did nothing like that at all. In fact he kept himself separate from Biden long before the election. Hunter may have gotten two million from China. That is nothing. Trump's kid and his son in law pulled in billions. And they affected policy as well.

Why are you complaining about a tiny fart downwind and ignoring the sewage stench from the activities of Trump's family?
 

Jayhawker Soule

-- untitled --
Premium Member
You have to think about it in context.

Actually, their is zero reason to read my personal views into the banter of a generally meandering speaker, nor am required to fabricate a headline when none is warranted. Doing so serves only to taint legitimate criticism of Trump's many egregious statements.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Actually, their is zero reason to read my personal views into the banter of a generally meandering speaker, nor am required to fabricate a headline when none is warranted. Doing so serves only to taint legitimate criticism of Trump's many egregious statements.
I used the generic "you". Change it to "one" and see if it makes any difference. That was applied how one had to understand the story if one was to criticize it.

I agree that legally this will not make a hill of beans worth of difference.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
What was not widely known at the time; November 2020, was the US Government, on behalf of the DNC and Biden, pressured social media to censor the Hunter Biden laptop story, as well as censor and shadow ban Conservative voices. This wide scale electron interference should have required an investigation and then an election redo.

The problem was the DNC covered up their election interference, to run out the clock, until they stole the election. Trump, as President a that time, had a sworn duty to defend the Constitution against the enemies of the state both foreign and domestic. There were plenty of domestic enemies. He was aware of their crime and coverup, since he has already seen the laptop and the FBI had already confirmed it before the election, but withheld that evidence as part of the coverup.

To make this fair so we can move on, how many voters think Trump and RNC should have their turn to control all social media this cycle, and shadow ban all fake news as disinformation? Would that make any difference and assure Trump's victory, like it did the DNC?

The same cheat occurred last time and crooks have yet to see justice. After Trump wins, if he was not allowed to have full control of social media, with a formal proclamation, to balance this off, he may need to round up all the conspirators, whose deception and crimes led to the Jan 6 riots. Jan 6, was protest against that steal, due to the corruption and coverup needing to be stopped and investigated. There are no statute of limitation on election stealing. One way or another things need to balance out.
You have a wacky imagination, but this isn't a fan fiction depository.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
The man seriously has no clue.
Oh, I disagree completely -- he has a clue, it's just that cheating is part of his nature.

Trump doesn’t just cheat at golf. He cheats like a three-card Monte dealer. He throws it, boots it, and moves it. He lies about his lies. He fudges and foozles and fluffs. At Winged Foot, where Trump is a member, the caddies got so used to seeing him kick his ball back onto the fairway they came up with a nickname for him: “Pele.”
To say “Donald Trump cheats” is like saying “Michael Phelps swims.” He cheats at the highest level. He cheats when people are watching, and he cheats when they aren’t. He cheats whether you like it or not. He cheats because that’s how he plays golf, that’s how he learned it, that’s how he needs it, and whether you’re his pharmacist or Tiger Woods, if you’re playing golf with him, he’s going to cheat.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
What was not widely known at the time; November 2020, was the US Government, on behalf of the DNC and Biden, pressured social media to censor the Hunter Biden laptop story, as well as censor and shadow ban Conservative voices. This wide scale electron interference should have required an investigation and then an election redo.

The problem was the DNC covered up their election interference, to run out the clock, until they stole the election. Trump, as President a that time, had a sworn duty to defend the Constitution against the enemies of the state both foreign and domestic. There were plenty of domestic enemies. He was aware of their crime and coverup, since he has already seen the laptop and the FBI had already confirmed it before the election, but withheld that evidence as part of the coverup.

To make this fair so we can move on, how many voters think Trump and RNC should have their turn to control all social media this cycle, and shadow ban all fake news as disinformation? Would that make any difference and assure Trump's victory, like it did the DNC?

The same cheat occurred last time and crooks have yet to see justice. After Trump wins, if he was not allowed to have full control of social media, with a formal proclamation, to balance this off, he may need to round up all the conspirators, whose deception and crimes led to the Jan 6 riots. Jan 6, was protest against that steal, due to the corruption and coverup needing to be stopped and investigated. There are no statute of limitation on election stealing. One way or another things need to balance out.
So him admitting to a crime is just fine with you because, of course, Trump can do whatever he likes ignoring the law. Got it.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Oh, I disagree completely -- he has a clue, it's just that cheating is part of his nature.

Trump doesn’t just cheat at golf. He cheats like a three-card Monte dealer. He throws it, boots it, and moves it. He lies about his lies. He fudges and foozles and fluffs. At Winged Foot, where Trump is a member, the caddies got so used to seeing him kick his ball back onto the fairway they came up with a nickname for him: “Pele.”
To say “Donald Trump cheats” is like saying “Michael Phelps swims.” He cheats at the highest level. He cheats when people are watching, and he cheats when they aren’t. He cheats whether you like it or not. He cheats because that’s how he plays golf, that’s how he learned it, that’s how he needs it, and whether you’re his pharmacist or Tiger Woods, if you’re playing golf with him, he’s going to cheat.
“You take the lies out of him, and he'll shrink to the size of your hat; you take the malice out of him, and he'll disappear.”
~Mark Twain
 

The Sum of Awe

Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
Staff member
Premium Member
This response to Trump's statement is a classic:

Psychologist Dr. David A. Lustig said, "We’re now at that remarkable point where Trump’s sociopathic narcissism is working synergistically with his advancing dementia, leaving us with an incredibly nasty, malevolent, and Machiavellian bowl of oatmeal."​
This honestly excites me. Two whole more months left for him to keep slipping things like this, I feel like he’s doomed to expose himself in ways that can’t be simply explained away no matter how many hoops his supporters can jump through while doing their handstands.
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
This honestly excites me. Two whole more months left for him to keep slipping things like this, I feel like he’s doomed to expose himself in ways that can’t be simply explained away no matter how many hoops his supporters can jump through while doing their handstands.
Unfortunately, his supporters are committed and backing out now amounts to admitting a major failing in their own logic, something that few people will do outside of a catastrophic change in circumstances. We are not dealing with a position arrived at through rational thought where evidence is relevant.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
So him admitting to a crime is just fine with you because, of course, Trump can do whatever he likes ignoring the law. Got it.
I think it is fine by MAGAs, as they clearly believe Trump is entitled to do anything he wants to attain power, and that's because everyone is against him. The laws and rules don't matter. The question about this election is how many undecided will agree that the laws and rules apply to Trump. It's astounding that so many voters justify support for the criminal candidate and can't even explain why they do so. It's almost like an illness. It does classify as a cult.

The one fortunate thing is that there are no other Trumpian type conmen in the wings. Vance certainly doesn't have the chops to mimic Trump.
 
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