Trump Shares Post: You are either a patriot or a traitor

[Pogo]

Not Wanting Red Trousers?

No just the polite version of this post is so stupid it is Not Worth Responding To.
Not anywhere even near your normal standards.

 

[Revoltingest]

No just the polite version of this post is so stupid it is Not Worth Responding To.
Not anywhere even near your normal standards.

Oh, you're one of those
who hates dictionaries, eh.

 

[Pogo]

Oh, you're one of those
who hates dictionaries, eh.

That one is particularly pathetic. hosehead LOL

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

The red shirts were Marxists, over the last 125 years Marxists, collectively have killed imprisoned mare than fascists.

Nice dance.

What you previously told us ...

Therefore a scenario could, and does seem to be emerging in America like in Germany 100 years ago, red shirts(Marxists) vs black shirts(fascists) in the Wiemer Republic, EXTREMES at both ends of the spectrum in which the 80% middle ignored BOTH, empowering the extremes. That did not end well.

So you were half right. Confusing the black shirts with the brown shirts was simply ignorant. It happens.

What I find despicable is your drivel about "EXTREMES at both ends" which is an implied, disgusting false equivalency reminiscent of Trump's:

"Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves — and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides."​

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

He loves all Americans. Both Democrats and Republicans.

That appears to be bordering on delusional on your part. Donald Trump loves Donald Trump, and no one else.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Presidents who attempt a coup to
over-turn an election are traitors.

There are times, I think, when it's not a bad thing to state the obvious!

 

[Wandering Monk]

That appears to be bordering on delusional on your part. Donald Trump loves Donald Trump, and no one else.

He has thrown virtually ALL of his loyal associates under the bus. Even his children.

 

[LeftyLen]

Nice dance.

What you previously told us ...



So you were half right. Confusing the black shirts with the brown shirts was simply ignorant. It happens.

What I find despicable is your drivel about "EXTREMES at both ends" which is an implied, disgusting false equivalency reminiscent of Trump's:

"Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves — and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides."​

Its called the 'Horse shoe theory"

Nice dance.

What you previously told us ...



So you were half right. Confusing the black shirts with the brown shirts was simply ignorant. It happens.

What I find despicable is your drivel about "EXTREMES at both ends" which is an implied, disgusting false equivalency reminiscent of Trump's:

"Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves — and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides."​

Its called the horseshoe theory" extremes t both ends become the same thing. As to Trump, 'He called neo-Nazis very fine people.' If one is willing to actually look at the transcript, and by the way, let me give you exact quote, exact quote from the transcript. Quote, this is from Donald Trump.

"I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists because they should be condemned totally. And you add people, and I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists because they should be condemned totally."

No equivocation there.

 

[LeftyLen]

Marxists are fascists.

Dictionary.com | Meanings & Definitions of English Words

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www.dictionary.com

1. (sometimes initial capital letter) a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.

the definition the Soviet Union, and all present day socialist regimes.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Quote, this is from Donald Trump.

"I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists because they should be condemned totally. And you add people, and I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists because they should be condemned totally."

No equivocation there.

It's nice to know where you stand.

 

[LeftyLen]

It's nice to know where you stand.

Its nice to have Clarity

 

[Subduction Zone]

He never said that.
He retweeted someone else's tweet.

Retweeting without a comment is the same as if one tweeted that thought themselves. If you say "Look at this idiot" and then retweet that is different.

Did he do that?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Its called the 'Horse shoe theory"

Its called the horseshoe theory" extremes t both ends become the same thing. As to Trump, 'He called neo-Nazis very fine people.' If one is willing to actually look at the transcript, and by the way, let me give you exact quote, exact quote from the transcript. Quote, this is from Donald Trump.

"I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists because they should be condemned totally. And you add people, and I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists because they should be condemned totally."

No equivocation there.

That was after he clearly supported those groups and was called out for it.

 

[Revoltingest]

That one is particularly pathetic. hosehead LOL

Odd it is that your posts seethe so over
something that you got wrong, thereby
prompting my useful correction.

 

[Pogo]

Odd it is that your posts seethe so over
something that you got wrong, thereby
prompting my useful correction.

Ok, I accept your correction on the acronym describing your sartorial choice but , Lisa ChatGPT is on my side otherwise.

No, Marxists are not fascists, and these terms refer to distinct political ideologies with different principles and goals:

1. Marxism: Marxism is a socio-political and economic theory developed by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels. It focuses on class struggle and the eventual establishment of a classless society where the means of production are owned collectively. Marxists advocate for the overthrow of capitalism through revolutionary means, with the ultimate aim of achieving socialism and then communism.
2. Fascism: Fascism, on the other hand, is a far-right authoritarian nationalist ideology. It emphasizes strong centralized power, often under a dictator, and promotes ultra-nationalism, militarism, and the suppression of political opposition. Fascism glorifies the nation-state and often uses violence and censorship to maintain control.

Key differences between Marxism and Fascism include:

• Economic Perspective: Marxism focuses on class conflict and advocates for the abolition of private property, aiming for a classless society. Fascism, while not strictly defining its economic policies, often allows for private property and business ownership as long as they serve the state's interests.
• Social Structure: Marxism seeks to abolish class distinctions and create a society where everyone is equal. Fascism promotes a hierarchical social structure where the nation or race is prioritized over individual rights and equality.
• Political Organization: Marxism traditionally advocates for a dictatorship of the proletariat (workers) as a transitional phase towards communism. Fascism supports a totalitarian state led by a single leader who embodies the will of the nation.

While both ideologies have been associated with authoritarianism, they arise from fundamentally different historical contexts, philosophical underpinnings, and goals. Therefore, Marxists and fascists are distinct ideological groups with opposing views on economics, politics, and society.

 

[Revoltingest]

Ok, I accept your correction on the acronym describing your sartorial choice but , Lisa ChatGPT is on my side otherwise.

No, Marxists are not fascists, and these terms refer to distinct political ideologies with different principles and goals:

1. Marxism: Marxism is a socio-political and economic theory developed by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels. It focuses on class struggle and the eventual establishment of a classless society where the means of production are owned collectively. Marxists advocate for the overthrow of capitalism through revolutionary means, with the ultimate aim of achieving socialism and then communism.
2. Fascism: Fascism, on the other hand, is a far-right authoritarian nationalist ideology. It emphasizes strong centralized power, often under a dictator, and promotes ultra-nationalism, militarism, and the suppression of political opposition. Fascism glorifies the nation-state and often uses violence and censorship to maintain control.

Key differences between Marxism and Fascism include:

• Economic Perspective: Marxism focuses on class conflict and advocates for the abolition of private property, aiming for a classless society. Fascism, while not strictly defining its economic policies, often allows for private property and business ownership as long as they serve the state's interests.
• Social Structure: Marxism seeks to abolish class distinctions and create a society where everyone is equal. Fascism promotes a hierarchical social structure where the nation or race is prioritized over individual rights and equality.
• Political Organization: Marxism traditionally advocates for a dictatorship of the proletariat (workers) as a transitional phase towards communism. Fascism supports a totalitarian state led by a single leader who embodies the will of the nation.

While both ideologies have been associated with authoritarianism, they arise from fundamentally different historical contexts, philosophical underpinnings, and goals. Therefore, Marxists and fascists are distinct ideological groups with opposing views on economics, politics, and society.

Marxism is a subset of fascism.

 

[We Never Know]

L'État, c'est moi

Trump is a delusional malignant narcissist. He believes that anyone who is disloyal to him personally is a traitor to the nation.

Reminds me of this ....

"In political communication, the phrase "you are either with us, or against us" and similar variations are used to generate polarisation and reject non-partisanship.[citation needed] The implied consequence of not joining the partisan effort of the speaker is to be deemed an enemy. A contemporary example is the statement of former US President George W. Bush, who declared at the launch of his anti-terrorism campaign, "Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."

You are either with us, or against us - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[danieldemol]

When driving as a long haul driver listening to the radio or with my online time I make a point of reading and listening to those I disagree with. I listen to both the extremes and moderates to simply acquire an understanding of others, no matter how annoying or even repulsive their positions. There are online those on the far left and far right and everything in between who have plenty to say, each acting like their personal perspectives are singularly the most important perspectives ever uttered that must be heard. I have noted copious comments of those who loath country music stating they envision country music aficionados as deplorable hayseeds. The left relegate rural citizens as deplorables occupying small towns, villages, hamlets. The left as I have assessed see, “agrarian overall wearing yahoos populating those towns, dirty red necked Provencal proletarian hayseeds who are probably in league with the klan -hardly worth the carbon intake their existence entails.” This revulsion I noted in reviews of country music by urban leftists who disdain the working class, particularly the rural variety. Paradoxically the left loath the working class while at the same time harp on the ‘class struggle’ of marginalized workers and other marginalized ‘identity’ groups. The left’s proclaimed egalitarian posture betrayed by their overt condescending view of the working class. This curious dichotomy a perplexing contradiction I have noted about leftists for years, an affirmation of caring about the ‘oppressed’ while simultaneously hating them. This irrational leftist dichotomy always baffled me, at least until actually exploring small towns and meeting people in small towns when suddenly the missing piece of puzzle, the contradictory paradox came together.



In leftist (socialist) countries you always had an elite group of intellectuals who feign caring for others in the oppressed lessor, ‘exploited classes.’ Whenever in power these elites embark on vigorously imposed programs of wealth redistribution to force equality. In collectivist countries, in spite of a history of continuous failure of compelled utopian designs imposed by leftist elites, the elites remain entrenched, thoroughly in love with their own productions. The leftist elites dogmatically rooted in their designs cannot be moved, no matter the resultant collateral damage. This leftist entrenchment is what renders them so insidiously evil, sporting in design what parallels a fundamentalist religion, positions so correct that not only must be heard but must be enforced. The utterly intractable mindset of leftists is why I designate them as being, ‘secular fundamentalists.’

If you hate fundamentalist religion you are really going to hate fundamentalist conservative Christianity which Trump supports in my view.

 

[Twilight Hue]

He has thrown virtually ALL of his loyal associates under the bus. Even his children.

Yeah right. Even his children.

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[LeftyLen]

If you hate fundamentalist religion you are really going to hate fundamentalist conservative Christianity which Trump supports in my view.

If you hate fundamentalist religion you are really going to hate fundamentalist conservative Christianity which Trump supports in my view.

In your view(opinion)