The story is not credible. Period.
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Trump Slams His Attorneys Then Spends 45 Minutes Defaming E. Jean Carrol AGAIN, and Her Witnesses.
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mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Yeah, but Italy is not the world. So your agreement is only relevant for Italy.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
You don't know that as such. You believe that based on how you understand it, but unless you can present credentials to the fact, you are not an expert witness.
Not credible doesn't mean that it didn't happen.
Because I was not there.
It means, that with zero evidence, it is not credible. Because it's a very unlikely scenario.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
But you haven't explained what level of evidence was used in that trial. Nor if other evidence was presented. You have focused on one part and based on how you subjectively think declared in effect what is correct.
I dare not imagine what criteria they used.
Maybe the criterion according to which a woman's word is worth more than a man's word.
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mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
I don't think the outcome of that trial or the US justice system is based on what you think or not in effect. Neither is based on what I think or not. That is the point of this. It is irrelevant what we think as such.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Who cares what you think.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
See? That was easy.Right back at you.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Yeah, I don't care about your claims, unless you use evidence from reality. Your imagined reality is utterly meaningless to me. I live in reality and I don't care about what you believe without evidence, but requires evidence.
See? That is easy.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I of course will continue to voice my opinions and views regardless. I like to use my own noggin and not someone's else's.
Very easy and refreshing!
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Yeah, your brain is the only brain in the world, right?!!
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Sometimes it seem I'm the only one left of a few independent thinkers unlike others who only let others do the thinking for them.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Well, your opinions are yours. The problem is that it is not given that any opinion you have about something independent of how you think/feel is a fact, just because you have an opinion on that.
So you have all the individual values you like about how to live your life, but the moment it is not just you, it is not just your brain. That is how reality works and that is also relevant for rape and all related to that as it is not just you.
So the moment you start claim something about other humans for who they are, how they should think and so on, it is not just your brain.
Argentbear
Well-Known Member
You obviously have never worked retailEven in the largest department store...there will always be shop assistants monitoring all customers, and to ensure women's safety, they would never allow men to enter the same dressing room as a woman.
So...I have many many doubts...
First there are just not enough retail workers to "monitor" all customers. They are understaffed and under payed and have dozens of other tasks that will not magically get done just because they are following customers around.
Most higher end stores have a single entry point for all dressing rooms so it is unlikely that any employee woudl have line of sight past that single entry.
Do you suppose the set up of changing rooms was not brought up at the trial? Do you think employees at the time were not tracked down for at the very least a statement?
I don't with any person to ever experience any form of sexual assault but if it were to happen to you i really pray that you don't have to deal with someone with your attitude.
Argentbear
Well-Known Member
do you really think that ANY of the lawyers involved did go ask?
yes, I did. Shop assistant in a clothes shop. It was not a department store...
but I know people who did work in a department store and told me that it's impossible that more than a person can enter a dressing room.
Let alone a man and a woman together.
A department store is not a brothel.
They would have either watched or heard something anomalous...so please...spare me unlikely scenarios in New York City...the city of order.
It's not worthy of NYC.
They did not.
Argentbear
Well-Known Member
Cheryl Beall a former employee of Bergdorf Goodman who worked on the sixth floor testified in the trial on Thursday evenings during the 1990s, the sixth floor of the luxury department store wasn’t very busy, that an attendant wasn’t always present in the lingerie department and that the dressing rooms were unlocked.
Robert Salerno a former employee of Bergdorf Goodman testified in court that in the 1990s, Bergdorf remained open late on Thursday evenings and that there were no security cameras on the sixth floor.
Also entered into evidence at the Trial was a large cardboard representation of the floor plan of Bergdorf Goodman's sixth floor
Gee I guess they did go and ask