Trump the most reasonable GOP candidate on foreign policy

[Sultan Of Swing]

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/foreign-policy-and-the-tenth-republican-debate/

Thoughts on the article?

The candidates on the debate stage last night should honestly be embarrassed by the rhetoric and eagerness for war that made Trump look the most reasonable candidate on the stage in the realm of foreign policy.

This particular bit by Trump on the Israel-Palestine conflict was very reasonable:

"As president, however, there’s nothing that I would rather do to bring peace to Israel and its neighbors generally. And I think it serves no purpose to say that you have a good guy and a bad guy.

Now, I may not be successful in doing it. It’s probably the toughest negotiation anywhere in the world of any kind. OK? But it doesn’t help if I start saying, “I am very pro-Israel, very pro, more than anybody on this stage.” But it doesn’t do any good to start demeaning the neighbors, because I would love to do something with regard to negotiating peace, finally, for Israel and for their neighbors.

And I can’t do that as well — as a negotiator, I cannot do that as well if I’m taking big, big sides."

While appearing contradictory at times, Trump indicating he is pro-Israel but at the same time wants to be neutral, this was a reasonable approach, being hesitant to paint Palestinians as the greatest evil on the planet and scupper any potential peace talks.

What was the response of the other GOP candidates? Ted Cruz proceeds to call Trump a 'moral relativist' and the candidates go on a hawkish rant about who loves Israel more. You can love Israel more than any of those buffoons and still want to appear neutral in any peace talks, that isn't unreasonable.

To add to the madness, the great 'moderate' John Kasich talks about how he'd think about 'regime change' in North Korea, and how they need to arm the Ukrainians. Arm the Ukrainians? Why?! Why does he want a proxy war with Russia?

Trump has a selfish foreign policy, but I'd take that any day over the ideologues who want to spread their 'freedom and democracy' to every country they don't like. How have we learned nothing over the past two decades?!

If it wasn't for Bernie I'd say he was the most reasonable foreign policy candidate out of everyone, certainly far more reasonable than Hillary with her no-fly zones and shooting down Russian planes.

 

[Revoltingest]

Interesting.....
In one area where Trump's typical over the top rhetoric would be materially damaging, he's reasonable.
I still say he's smarter than I initially thought.

 

[Sultan Of Swing]

The fact he said "Now, I may not be successful in doing it. It’s probably the toughest negotiation anywhere in the world of any kind" I found the most surprising.

"I may not be successful in doing it" who is that man and what has he done with Donald J. Trump?

 

[Revoltingest]

The fact he said "Now, I may not be successful in doing it. It’s probably the toughest negotiation anywhere in the world of any kind" I found the most surprising.

"I may not be successful in doing it" who is that man and what has he done with Donald J. Trump?

Setting realistic expectations makes sense for someone who knows he's a front runner.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Someone who condemns foreign workers and says he won't hire them while hiring them makes me very weary of anything he says about his foreign policy. Will he really stay out, or dive in head first if some Saudi Princes make him a lucrative offer?

 

[Laika]

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/foreign-policy-and-the-tenth-republican-debate/

Thoughts on the article?

The candidates on the debate stage last night should honestly be embarrassed by the rhetoric and eagerness for war that made Trump look the most reasonable candidate on the stage in the realm of foreign policy.

This particular bit by Trump on the Israel-Palestine conflict was very reasonable:

"As president, however, there’s nothing that I would rather do to bring peace to Israel and its neighbors generally. And I think it serves no purpose to say that you have a good guy and a bad guy.

Now, I may not be successful in doing it. It’s probably the toughest negotiation anywhere in the world of any kind. OK? But it doesn’t help if I start saying, “I am very pro-Israel, very pro, more than anybody on this stage.” But it doesn’t do any good to start demeaning the neighbors, because I would love to do something with regard to negotiating peace, finally, for Israel and for their neighbors.

And I can’t do that as well — as a negotiator, I cannot do that as well if I’m taking big, big sides."

While appearing contradictory at times, Trump indicating he is pro-Israel but at the same time wants to be neutral, this was a reasonable approach, being hesitant to paint Palestinians as the greatest evil on the planet and scupper any potential peace talks.

What was the response of the other GOP candidates? Ted Cruz proceeds to call Trump a 'moral relativist' and the candidates go on a hawkish rant about who loves Israel more. You can love Israel more than any of those buffoons and still want to appear neutral in any peace talks, that isn't unreasonable.

To add to the madness, the great 'moderate' John Kasich talks about how he'd think about 'regime change' in North Korea, and how they need to arm the Ukrainians. Arm the Ukrainians? Why?! Why does he want a proxy war with Russia?

Trump has a selfish foreign policy, but I'd take that any day over the ideologues who want to spread their 'freedom and democracy' to every country they don't like. How have we learned nothing over the past two decades?!

If it wasn't for Bernie I'd say he was the most reasonable foreign policy candidate out of everyone, certainly far more reasonable than Hillary with her no-fly zones and shooting down Russian planes.

That's definetely one of Trump's better moments. Thanks for sharing.

[Kasich suggesting the idea of regime change in north korea is a write-off personally. that's insane.]

 

[Sultan Of Swing]

That's definetely one of Trump's better moments. Thanks for sharing.

[Kasich suggesting the idea of regime change in north korea is a write-off personally. that's insane.]

Kasich paints himself (and is seen by many people) as the intelligent moderate who can appeal to undecided voters in the general election, yet his foreign policy statements are crazier than anyone left in the race

 

[metis]

Whaddya you folks think about Lindsey Graham referring to Trump yesterday as being "bat-s**t crazy"?

 

[Revoltingest]

Whaddya you folks think about Lindsey Graham referring to Trump yesterday as being "bat-s**t crazy"?

One politician insults another?
Meh.

 

[Nietzsche]

Whaddya you folks think about Lindsey Graham referring to Trump yesterday as being "bat-s**t crazy"?

Is he trying out for Captain Obvious or something?

 

[BSM1]

Whaddya you folks think about Lindsey Graham referring to Trump yesterday as being "bat-s**t crazy"?

Lindsay who?

 

[Revoltingest]

Lindsay who?

This is happening a lot.
Anyone with something entertainingly negative about Trump will be covered, eh.
Is it really significant to them, or is it about reinforcing their own feelings?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

That's definetely one of Trump's better moments. Thanks for sharing.

[Kasich suggesting the idea of regime change in north korea is a write-off personally. that's insane.]

In some ways, such a comment makes me surprised the neo-Cons haven't jumped on the Kasich bandwagon. But he's very unknown here, which may be why they haven't. But, unfortunately, America has a very nasty history of forcing regime changes. Some text books even define neo-Conservativism by using the military to further American political and economic interests. I really want to believe that Kasich not gaining support over this is a positive sign the neo-Conservativism is dying down, but the realist in my knows it's just because he isn't that well known. Even Bernie Sanders had a following before he announced his running, and he is at least no-less than a familiar name to those who follow American politics.

 

[Yerda]

I still say he's smarter than I initially thought.

Same here. I almost want him to win out of curiosity.