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Trump visits Kenosha

Stevicus

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Trump visits Kenosha, calls violence 'domestic terrorism'

KENOSHA, Wis. (AP) — President Donald Trump stood at the epicenter of the latest eruption over racial injustice Tuesday and came down squarely on the side of law enforcement, blaming “domestic terror” for the violence in Kenosha, Wisconsin, and making no nod to the underlying cause of anger and protests — the shooting of yet another Black man by police.

Trump declared the violence “anti-American.” He did not mention Jacob Blake, who was left paralyzed after being shot in the back seven times by an officer last week in Kenosha.

Soon after arriving in the city, a visit made over the objections of state and local leaders, Trump toured the charred remains of a block besieged by violence and fire. With the scent of smoke still in the air, he spoke to the owners of a century-old store that had been destroyed and continued to link the violence to the Democrats, blaming those in charge of Kenosha and Wisconsin while raising apocalyptic warnings if their party should capture the White House.

I have noticed an increase in the "apocalyptic warnings" lately, as they seem to think that communists will take over the country if Biden wins.

“These are not acts of peaceful protest but, really, domestic terror,” said Trump. And he condemned Democratic officials for not immediately accepting his offer of federal enforcement assistance, claiming, “They just don’t want us to come.”

There were both protesters and Trump supporters lining the route of the president's motorcade.

Trump’s motorcade passed throngs of demonstrators, some holding American flags in support of the president, others jeering while carrying signs that read Black Lives Matter. A massive police presence, complete with several armored vehicles, secured the area, and barricades were set up along several of the city’s major thoroughfares to keep onlookers at a distance from the passing presidential vehicles.

Offering federal resources to help rebuild the city, Trump toured a high school that had been transformed into a heavily fortified law enforcement command post. He said he tried to call Blake’s mother but opted against it after the family asked that a lawyer listen in.

Trump later added he felt “terribly” for anyone who suffered a loss, but otherwise only noted that the situation was “complicated” and “under investigation.” The only words acknowledging the concerns of African Americans came from a pastor who attended Trump’s law enforcement roundtable.

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McBell

Unbound
  • Trump said on Monday that a plane “almost completely loaded with thugs” wearing “dark uniforms” had been headed to the Republican National Convention to do “big damage.” The claim is similar to a baseless conspiracy theory that spread online over the summer, well before the convention.
  • He has declined to condemn the killings of two protesters in Kenosha, Wis. He instead defended the 17-year-old charged in the shootings — a Trump supporter named Kyle Rittenhouse — saying he was acting in self-defense. Trump also promoted a Twitter post that called Rittenhouse “a good example of why I decided to vote for Trump.”
  • He defended violence committed by his supporters in Portland, Ore., who fired paintballs and pepper spray at Black Lives Matter protesters.
  • He compared the police shooting of Jacob Blake in Kenosha to missing “a three-foot putt” in a golf tournament.
  • He claimed that “people that you’ve never heard of” and “people that are in the dark shadows” are controlling Joe Biden.
  • He claimed Democrats were trying to “destroy” suburbs with “low-income housing, and with that comes a lot of other problems, including crime.” He added that Cory Booker — one of the highest-profile Black Democrats — would be “in charge of it.”
  • He predicted that the stock market would crash if Biden won.
  • He said that Biden, at the Democratic National Convention, “didn’t even discuss law enforcement, the police. Those words weren’t mentioned.” In fact, Biden held a discussion at the convention on policing, with a police chief.
  • Trump claimed that he “took control of” the situation in Kenosha by sending in the National Guard. In fact, Wisconsin’s governor, not the president, sent the National Guard.
  • He retweeted messages asserting that the pandemic’s death toll was overstated. Evidence indicates the opposite is true.
  • He said that protests against police brutality were actually a secret “coup attempt” by anarchists “trying to take down the President.”
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fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
I just want to know more about these people that tell Joe Biden what to say.

...These "people we've never heard of".

Your human tongue could never pronounce the true names of the lizard people giving the orders.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I didn't expect Trump to heal any wounds in Kenosha.
My expectations for Biden are similarly low.
But on the plus side, I'm seldom disappointed.
 

Mindmaster

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I didn't expect Trump to heal any wounds in Kenosha.
My expectations for Biden are similarly low.
But on the plus side, I'm seldom disappointed.

I always find it amusing when these 50+ year Democrat cities blame Trump for their misgivings. :D

Anyway, unless there is a shake-up in the local government you can expect more of what you already have, lol.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I always find it amusing when these 50+ year Democrat cities blame Trump for their misgivings. :D

Anyway, unless there is a shake-up in the local government you can expect more of what you already have, lol.
They say that all the violence, disease, & economic woe are
"Trump's country". If indeed he "owns" all that happens on
his watch, why were they silent or dismissive when the economy
was strong, tax revenues were high, & we were winding down
the wars? Why don't Democratic mayors & governors in the
problem cities & states "own" their problems?
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
I didn't expect Trump to heal any wounds in Kenosha.
My expectations for Biden are similarly low.
But on the plus side, I'm seldom disappointed.

I don't have high expectations for Biden, but he at least won't actively make things like this worse, like Trump does.

They say that all the violence, disease, & economic woe are
"Trump's country". If indeed he "owns" all that happens on
his watch, why were they silent or dismissive when the economy
was strong, tax revenues were high, & we were winding down
the wars? Why don't Democratic mayors & governors in the
problem cities & states "own" their problems?

I don't personally do the "Trump's America" thing, but usually when people do that now, it's in response to people saying what "Biden's America" would be like.

Of course all of the violence, disease and economic woes aren't Trump's fault, but the severity of them are his fault. He only makes the violence worse by stoking divisions and generally being a troll. He also defends those on his side committing violence and creating violent situations. His handling of the pandemic has been extraordinarily terrible, as evidenced by the fact that our numbers are so much worse than almost any other developed country. His handling of the pandemic has also exacerbated the economic woes. So, yes, the pandemic would still have hit us and our economy, and there would still be division and violence without him, but he makes it all worse.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I don't have high expectations for Biden, but he at least won't actively make things like this worse, like Trump does.



I don't personally do the "Trump's America" thing, but usually when people do that now, it's in response to people saying what "Biden's America" would be like.

Of course all of the violence, disease and economic woes aren't Trump's fault, but the severity of them are his fault. He only makes the violence worse by stoking divisions and generally being a troll. He also defends those on his side committing violence and creating violent situations. His handling of the pandemic has been extraordinarily terrible, as evidenced by the fact that our numbers are so much worse than almost any other developed country. His handling of the pandemic has also exacerbated the economic woes. So, yes, the pandemic would still have hit us and our economy, and there would still be division and violence without him, but he makes it all worse.
Long time no see.
It seems that you've missed my criticism
of Trump's handling of the plague.
Yer preach'n to the choir on that issue.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
These democrat -majority cities become ground zero for riots, where even democrat mayors and police Chiefs are protested and publicly shamed, by their own political peers.... And it’s Trumps fault?

Sounds like the swindlers are hard at work:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1300843581071077382
Why are you assuming it's the Democrat mayors and police chiefs fault then?

The vast majority of people involved in these protests are doing so peacefully, but the unfortunate reality is that there are always some who will try and take advantage of certain situations so as to do their "thing". Gandhi ran across the same exact problem with their protests.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Why are you assuming it's the Democrat mayors and police chiefs fault then?

The vast majority of people involved in these protests are doing so peacefully, but the unfortunate reality is that there are always some who will try and take advantage of certain situations so as to do their "thing". Gandhi ran across the same exact problem with their protests.
Do you extend this charitable benefit of the doubt
to protesters on the right, ie, the majority are good
& peaceful?
 

Mindmaster

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
They say that all the violence, disease, & economic woe are
"Trump's country". If indeed he "owns" all that happens on
his watch, why were they silent or dismissive when the economy
was strong, tax revenues were high, & we were winding down
the wars? Why don't Democratic mayors & governors in the
problem cities & states "own" their problems?

No, idea really. They were also having likely the same problems under all of the past Presidents regardless of party. There would be more of an argument that they were 'Obama's problems' in that case, since he did absolutely nothing about them (nor could he, really) either. Obviously, I think that is nonsense in either case.

People in this country seem to think the Federal government has the most power or whatever, but it's complete nonsense. The Feds can't use their power w/o a lot of red-tape and special restrictions, whereas local often doesn't have these limitations. Their power is more like a 'glue' between the authorities of states and localities, and where things don't cross the borders of states that have extremely little say.
 

Tambourine

Well-Known Member
They say that all the violence, disease, & economic woe are
"Trump's country". If indeed he "owns" all that happens on
his watch, why were they silent or dismissive when the economy
was strong, tax revenues were high, & we were winding down
the wars? Why don't Democratic mayors & governors in the
problem cities & states "own" their problems?
Probably for the same reason neither you nor the US Republicans "own" their problems.

It's politically inconvenient and undermines the social order that you've helped built for the sake of your own comfort.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Probably for the same reason neither you nor the US Republicans "own" their problems.
To falsely make it about me violates rule #1.
Excerpted....
"Critique each other's ideas all you want, but under
no circumstances personally attack each other...."
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I just want to know more about these people that tell Joe Biden what to do and say.

...These "people we've never heard of".
Its pretty clear Biden will be a puppet president.

No doubt people in the background will be calling the shots.
 
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