Trump Wants to Talk About **** Size

[Revoltingest]

Who is "we"? Some will survive, some will not.

Us.

Let's not forget that as bad as Trump is,
Biden also gets people killed & abused.
- Created civil forfeiture.
- Supported genocide & apartheid in Israel.

We're still here.

 

[Revoltingest]

The nation itself may not...

Let's not go off the deep end.
There's a risk of an imperial presidency,
with a narcissistic vengeful thug in charge.
But he's also old & a weak leader, unable
to effect many of his plans because he can't
work with the opposition.
If he wins, one thing certain is that interesting
times lie ahead.

 

[Pogo]

I'm optimistic.
We'll survive another Trump, if that's in the cards.

Most of us, but at what cost?

 

[Revoltingest]

Most of us, but at what cost?

That remains to be seen.

Point is...
Don't dwell on a worst case scenario as certain.

 

[Riders]

I would like to know why that comment about a golf star is so scandalous to you.
I find that completely normal.
Enlighten me.

A man worshipping another man's genitalia?

 

[Riders]

I would like to know why that comment about a golf star is so scandalous to you.
I find that completely normal.
Enlighten me.

A man worshipping another man's genitalia?

 

[Riders]

It is idolatry.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Have you seen the video of him singing this live in concert?

 

[Heyo]

Trump lied and you bought it hook line and sinker.

Trump didn't lie, he just presented "alternative facts".
/s

 

[Heyo]

Let's not go off the deep end.
There's a risk of an imperial presidency,
with a narcissistic vengeful thug in charge.
But he's also old & a weak leader, unable
to effect many of his plans because he can't
work with the opposition.
If he wins, one thing certain is that interesting
times lie ahead.

The US has often been compared to classical Rome, and Rome didn't dissolve immediately when the Republic ended. But it also didn't get back to a republic ever. Prepare for interesting times, prepare for Nero and Caligula. Especially prepare for Theodosius. And after that, prepare for the fall.

 

[Copernicus]

Let's not go off the deep end.
There's a risk of an imperial presidency,
with a narcissistic vengeful thug in charge.
But he's also old & a weak leader, unable
to effect many of his plans because he can't
work with the opposition.
If he wins, one thing certain is that interesting
times lie ahead.

But no administration is just about what the president does, especially when the president is Donald Trump. He personally doesn't do much more than watch TV and think of ways to influence public opinion. The people who actually do anything are those he delegates to do things. What worries people now is that he had hired a lot of people who pushed back against his crazier ideas during his first term of office. He knows a lot more now about how to clear away the roadblocks. Maybe Congress and the Supreme Court will try to curb some of his excesses, but he now has a "Trump card"--the ability to shield himself from consequences by creative implementation of "official acts", wherein he now feels himself immunized. It isn't clear that he can be prosecuted for abusing his presidential powers, and it is pretty much accepted wisdom that impeachment and removal, as prescribed in the Constitution for a check on presidential overreach, is no longer a threat to a sitting president. If Congress does not remove him, and the 25th amendment doesn't really do much to constrain him, he seems to have a free hand to rule by decree.

 

[Martin]

Have you seen the video of him singing this live in concert?

Yes, and I hope the Farting Trumpet saw it too.

 

[Viker]

At his rally yesterday in Pennsylvania. Must be part of the whole Right Wing 'Masculinity' crusade. Ten minutes into his ramble about Arnold Palmer, he has to go there for some reason, starting at 48:10 through 49:03.

If you want to listen to his entire 'weave' there in Latrobe, by all means...

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Wait for it.... he's going to eventually bring up John Holmes in rally or conference one day.

 

[ChristineM]

Im late coming to this thread but i saw this meme yesterday and just had to post it here.

 

[ChristineM]

This time he was crucified for praising a golf star.
This is not normal.

Do you honestly think that talking about a dead guys penis (or anyones penis) on live TV is normal?

 

[F1fan]

But no administration is just about what the president does, especially when the president is Donald Trump. He personally doesn't do much more than watch TV and think of ways to influence public opinion. The people who actually do anything are those he delegates to do things. What worries people now is that he had hired a lot of people who pushed back against his crazier ideas during his first term of office. He knows a lot more now about how to clear away the roadblocks. Maybe Congress and the Supreme Court will try to curb some of his excesses, but he now has a "Trump card"--the ability to shield himself from consequences by creative implementation of "official acts", wherein he now feels himself immunized. It isn't clear that he can be prosecuted for abusing his presidential powers, and it is pretty much accepted wisdom that impeachment and removal, as prescribed in the Constitution for a check on presidential overreach, is no longer a threat to a sitting president. If Congress does not remove him, and the 25th amendment doesn't really do much to constrain him, he seems to have a free hand to rule by decree.

I think it's fair to say that Trump has little interest in governing. He seldom makes any serious policy statements in his appearances. What he does is set a tone, and this happens to be one that will be authoritarian and extreme. His cabinet will be filled with those who can and will protect him from any accountability. And it's not even him that can be protected, he will surely protect those who protect him since he has the pardon power for federal crimes. The administration can literally get away with most any crime.

Trump will be more lazy than he was the first time. He will rely more on the staffers around him. I think it's fair to point out that leaders attract people who support their attitudes and character, and Trump won't attract decent people like he did the first time. When Hitler attained power we attracted like minded Anti-Semites. Hitler himself never killed a Jew. It wasn't even part of his overall plan to kill Jews. It started by rounding up Jewish citizens of any nation that Nazis controlled, and prepared to ship them east once they won the war against Russia. As we know that war was mismanaged and the fast victory in 1942 didn't happen. The Final Solution wasn't Hitler's idea, it was a collaboration of top SS officials. It was their job to manage all these Jews and there were too many. Murdering the Jews became a practical solution, and justified. The German people followed along and justified it too.

When we see Trump supporters justify their support for a criminal it mirrors that same indifference as the German citizens who wouldn't stand up to a criminal government. Even those who did have ethics and honor couldn't protest without being arrested. Can we expect Trump to be stable enough not to do the same to anyone who stands up against him? Can we expect him to appoint people like Stephen Miller whose ideas are in essence vacant of any compassion and empathy? Yes. And those people given absolute power (since they can be pardoned, and their DOJ won't indict them for crimes anyway) will use it. Trump won't hire anyone who has a conscience, or any moral sense. Trump can't risk it.

@Revoltingest said not to expect the worst case scenario. I think that's foolish. I think we are obligated to expect the worst imaginable because Trump is a disturbed man who will make one poor decision after another. If Trump wins I think there will have to be a massive and strong response to any illegal and unconstitutional actions. Only if the protests are overwhelming can he not feel safe. If he can't get control over the population he will never be able to wrangle the obedience from enough people to do what he is capable of doing. If Trump crosses too many lines against US citizens there could be a revolution against MAGA, just as there was against the absolute authority by King George.

 

[F1fan]

Let's not go off the deep end.
There's a risk of an imperial presidency,
with a narcissistic vengeful thug in charge.
But he's also old & a weak leader, unable
to effect many of his plans because he can't
work with the opposition.
If he wins, one thing certain is that interesting
times lie ahead.

I'm not worried about Trump doing anything except inspiring more people to lose dignity and honor. I'm worried about the young and ambitious people who take his rhetoric seriously, and will use the power they are given to make it happen. You tell me how Congress will control the administration. Or the Judicial branch who allowed the immunity in the first place. MAGA will control the DOJ, and what do you think the worst of them are willing to do to you or anyone else?

We have testimony from former Trump administration officials who revealed how often Trump wanted to do illegal or unconstitutional things, and the only reason they didn't happen was the ethics of those officials. They will be gone. Trump will do whatever he wants and let the other branches of government respond after the fact. We can't assume to trust the criminal candidate in any way. He's owed nothing.

 

[Revoltingest]

The US has often been compared to classical Rome, and Rome didn't dissolve immediately when the Republic ended. But it also didn't get back to a republic ever. Prepare for interesting times, prepare for Nero and Caligula. Especially prepare for Theodosius. And after that, prepare for the fall.

There's no alternative country to move
to if one wants to avoid that.

 

[Revoltingest]

But no administration is just about what the president does, especially when the president is Donald Trump. He personally doesn't do much more than watch TV and think of ways to influence public opinion.

He also spends time doing other things.
- Eating.
- Sleeping.
- Napping.
- Fulminating.
- Soaking up flattery.
- Perfecting his Mr Evil laugh.
- His day of beauty at the spa.
- Reviewing & expanding his enemies list.
- Straining on the stool when he drops the kids off at the pool.

The people who actually do anything are those he delegates to do things. What worries people now is that he had hired a lot of people who pushed back against his crazier ideas during his first term of office. He knows a lot more now about how to clear away the roadblocks. Maybe Congress and the Supreme Court will try to curb some of his excesses....

Only "maybe"?
He accomplished little in his singular term
because he was unable to work with the
opposition. His personality is that of a
tyrant...not a negotiator.

...but he now has a "Trump card"--the ability to shield himself from consequences by creative implementation of "official acts", wherein he now feels himself immunized.

He's always had that shield.
The only difference now is that
it's codified in a SCOTUS ruling.

It isn't clear that he can be prosecuted for abusing his presidential powers, and it is pretty much accepted wisdom that impeachment and removal, as prescribed in the Constitution for a check on presidential overreach, is no longer a threat to a sitting president.

It never has been a threat.
Impeachments are rare & have never resulted in conviction.
2/3 of the Senate is a very high bar indeed.

If Congress does not remove him, and the 25th amendment doesn't really do much to constrain him, he seems to have a free hand to rule by decree.

If removed, then Vance seizes power.
Is that better?

 

[Revoltingest]

@Revoltingest said not to expect the worst case scenario. I think that's foolish. I think we are obligated to expect the worst imaginable because Trump is a disturbed man who will make one poor decision after another.

Tis better to consider the range of possible outcomes,
& the relative probability of each. Your way leads only
to scampering about, & panicking about the impending
falling sky. To think is better than to emote.