Trump's new ad cites racist eugenics organization as authority.

[Twilight Hue]

I couldn't care less who supports Trump. I'm sure there are idiots supporting both candidates.

Agree.

Duke was a Democrat well into the 80s prior to switching over to a Republican. He left the Klan in the late 70s. What I'm trying to figure out is why people like Byrd and Duke get nary a word on their questionable affiliations concerning the Democrats themselves.

History shows the Democrats as being the nexus as to where organisations like the kkk first arose with the likes of people as Duke and Byrd.

I don't like neither Duke or Byrd, but if people are going ahead with using them as a political weapon then it's only fair the whole story is told. Not just the choicest tidbits presented as a one-sided tool of opportunity.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Didn't Planned Parenthood start out with racism and eugenics as motives...aimed towards black communities? I remember seeing some nasty quotes attributed to the founder/s.

No, that's a lie: http://www.politifact.com/new-hamps...rgaret-sanger-believe-african-americans-shou/

I actually used to believe those lies about her, but now I know they're lies. I actually have a lot of respect for her now.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

No, that's a lie: http://www.politifact.com/new-hamps...rgaret-sanger-believe-african-americans-shou/

I actually used to believe those lies about her, but now I know they're lies. I actually have a lot of respect for her now.

Even if she did say such a thing, it was so long ago that it's like trying to call out the Democrats of today for the racist rantings of the Southern Democrats decades ago. But, unfortunately, the lies of even contraception being abortion and "against the will of god" have persisted from the time when Planned Parenthood was just a movement to today, and it will probably be several decades more before all the lies about PP, contraception, and exactly what "planned parenthood" means are laid to rest, if they are ever laid to rest.

 

[Underhill]

Agree.

Duke was a Democrat well into the 80s prior to switching over to a Republican. He left the Klan in the late 70s. What I'm trying to figure out is why people like Byrd and Duke get nary a word on their questionable affiliations concerning the Democrats themselves.

History shows the Democrats as being the nexus as to where organisations like the kkk first arose with the likes of people as Duke and Byrd.

I don't like neither Duke or Byrd, but if people are going ahead with using them as a political weapon then it's only fair the whole story is told. Not just the choicest tidbits presented as a one-sided tool of opportunity.

Again, that seems silly. Nobody denies the democrats history. I certainly don't. But what happened 50 years ago is of minor importance in the light of what is going on today. It's reference material, nothing more.

 

[metis]

Agree.

Duke was a Democrat well into the 80s prior to switching over to a Republican. He left the Klan in the late 70s. What I'm trying to figure out is why people like Byrd and Duke get nary a word on their questionable affiliations concerning the Democrats themselves.

History shows the Democrats as being the nexus as to where organisations like the kkk first arose with the likes of people as Duke and Byrd.

I don't like neither Duke or Byrd, but if people are going ahead with using them as a political weapon then it's only fair the whole story is told. Not just the choicest tidbits presented as a one-sided tool of opportunity.

To put it in simply, yesterday's "Dixiecrats" are today's Republicans.

The big switch occurred in the late 1960's through the early 1970's, whereas LBJ's successful pushing of the Civil Rights Acts for passage upset the Dixiecrats so they "converted" over to the Republican Party.

However, it was not uniform across the board as during that time period, and even with some thereafter, former Dixiecrats would vote Republican for the president but Democrat in local and sometimes state races. That now is quite rare though.

 

[tytlyf]

That new Hillary movie is based around this DemoKKKrat lie. They're trying to fool the audience and tell people that the south used to be all liberals. DemoKKKrats weren't progressives, that's for sure. And Abraham Lincoln sure wasn't a conservative.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Again, that seems silly. Nobody denies the democrats history. I certainly don't. But what happened 50 years ago is of minor importance in the light of what is going on today. It's reference material, nothing more.

I used to think past history was worthless. Not anymore.

 

[Underhill]

I used to think past history was worthless. Not anymore.

It's not useless. But it's reference material. It can inform our actions and opinions. But when talking about current politics, pulling out 50 year old policies isn't very relevant unless you think we are headed back there. The democrats are not in any danger of that. Republicans... who knows?

 

[columbus]

I used to think past history was worthless. Not anymore.

It's worse than worthless if you only know bits and pieces.
Democrats went out on a long political limb in the sixties. They fought against the systemic racism the USA was plagued with. From forcibly integrating schools to Voting Rights Act, they fought for a better future.
The Party of Lincoln made a horrificly opportunistic pact with the Devil. By becoming the party of racism they scooped up zillions of voters who didn't like the change and became the new representatives of the old way, the conservative white racists.

This was called "The Southern Strategy" and is very well documented.
Tom

 

[Twilight Hue]

It's worse than worthless if you only know bits and pieces.
Democrats went out on a long political limb in the sixties. They fought against the systemic racism the USA was plagued with. From forcibly integrating schools to Voting Rights Act, they fought for a better future.
The Party of Lincoln made a horrificly opportunistic pact with the Devil. By becoming the party of racism they scooped up zillions of voters who didn't like the change and became the new representatives of the old way, the conservative white racists.

This was called "The Southern Strategy" and is very well documented.
Tom

Snippet:

Richard Nixon’s “Southern Strategy”, which the democrats say is the reason black people had to support them during the 1960′s–is a lie.

And it’s probably the biggest lie that’s been told to the blacks since Woodrow Wilson segregated the federal government after getting the NAACP to support him.
After talking with black voters across the country about why they overwhelmingly supports democrats, the common answer that’s emerges is the Southern Strategy.

Source:

http://blackquillandink.com/?p=6082

 

[columbus]

Snippet:




Source:

http://blackquillandink.com/?p=6082

That isn't especially impressive spin.

But I don’t think the democrats projected their sins on republicans just for political gain. When an institution has had control over a group of people for over 200 years, does anyone believe they’re going to let them go so easily. I don’t think so.
I don’t believe this myth wasn’t created to only hurt republicans; it was also created so democrats can keep their historic control over the lives of African Americans.

The premise that 21st century black voters are being duped by the Democrats is ludicrous. Maybe David Duke only shifted his party alliance of few years back. But most people have been paying a little more attention than that. I am certain that black voters can, for example, see why the Republican party has done their best to gerrymander the black vote into irrelevance. And institute voter suppression laws.

Tom

 

[Acim]

The guy is a racist and a supporter of eugenics. The OP stated that.

With nothing to back it up.

 

[Twilight Hue]

That isn't especially impressive spin.





The premise that 21st century black voters are being duped by the Democrats is ludicrous. Maybe David Duke only shifted his party alliance of few years back. But most people have been paying a little more attention than that. I am certain that black voters can, for example, see why the Republican party has done their best to gerrymander the black vote into irrelevance. And institute voter suppression laws.

Tom

I didn't think you'd care for it. ;0)

It does show though, it's not something as cut and dry as it's made out to be. There are still contentions out there being made.

 

[columbus]

It does show though, it's not something as cut and dry as it's made out to be. There are still contentions out there being made.

I don't think it is anything like cut and dried. But the bottom line is this. The GOP has generally made itself the party of the rich and the white. The Dems have generally made themselves the party of the rest of the USA.
So even black professionals who do not personally need help are very much aware of how government policies impact people at the bottom of the socioeconomic ladder. Which is where a disproportionate number of black people live. That's why black people are so much more supportive of the Democratic party than the GOP.
It is not because they are ignorant and easily led, as your snippet suggested. Nor are they any more inclined to vote for "free stuff" than rich white folks who want government services, but don't want to pay the taxes needed to provide them.

Tom

 

[esmith]

I don't think it is anything like cut and dried. But the bottom line is this. The GOP has generally made itself the party of the rich and the white. The Dems have generally made themselves the party of the rest of the USA.
So even black professionals who do not personally need help are very much aware of how government policies impact people at the bottom of the socioeconomic ladder. Which is where a disproportionate number of black people live. That's why black people are so much more supportive of the Democratic party than the GOP.
It is not because they are ignorant and easily led, as your snippet suggested. Nor are they any more inclined to vote for "free stuff" than rich white folks who want government services, but don't want to pay the taxes needed to provide them.

Tom

So riddle me this. Where is the Hillary getting all of her campaign donations from?
Give you a hint
1.http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-16/leaked-list-hillary-clintons-mega-donors
Then we have the following article
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-hillary-clinton-fundraising-20160824-snap-story.html

 

[columbus]

Where is the Hillary getting all of her campaign donations from?

Why are you changing the subject from black voters support to campaign contributions?
My guess is that you know what I said is accurate.
Tom

 

[Twilight Hue]

I don't think it is anything like cut and dried. But the bottom line is this. The GOP has generally made itself the party of the rich and the white. The Dems have generally made themselves the party of the rest of the USA.
So even black professionals who do not personally need help are very much aware of how government policies impact people at the bottom of the socioeconomic ladder. Which is where a disproportionate number of black people live. That's why black people are so much more supportive of the Democratic party than the GOP.
It is not because they are ignorant and easily led, as your snippet suggested. Nor are they any more inclined to vote for "free stuff" than rich white folks who want government services, but don't want to pay the taxes needed to provide them.

Tom

Just some information in general on the provided source.


The article itself (2011) was written by Ken Raymond. The site in general, Black Quill and Ink, is a black conservative blog.

 

[columbus]

Just some information in general on the provided source.


The article itself (2011) was written by Ken Raymond. The site in general, Black Quill and Ink, is a black conservative blog.

How black is Mr Raymond?
Obama is often described as black. But his mother is as white as I am. He grew up in a bit of a jetsetting world, probably unavailable if his black sperm donor had remained Stateside.
Obama is not really black. He just got a politically advantageous skin color.
Tom

 

[esmith]

Why are you changing the subject from black voters support to campaign contributions?
My guess is that you know what I said is accurate.
Tom

I was responding to the highlighted portion of your post


parts edited to remove items not germane to your last question.

I don't think it is anything like cut and dried. But the bottom line is this. The GOP has generally made itself the party of the rich and the white. The Dems have generally made themselves the party of the rest of the USA.Tom

So riddle me this. Where is the Hillary getting all of her campaign donations from?
Give you a hint
1.http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-16/leaked-list-hillary-clintons-mega-donors
Then we have the following article
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-hillary-clinton-fundraising-20160824-snap-story.html

If the Dem's are not the party of the rich and white then why are so many rich and white contributing to the Dem's, including the Hillary in this election cycle.
Why is the Hillary in lock step with Wall Street (even your beloved Bernie could see this)
Just what have the Dem's done to alleviate poverty in the majority of the large cities they run.
What has the Hillary put forward to improve the struggling economy?

 

[columbus]

What has the Hillary put forward to improve the struggling economy?

Crank up taxes so that the government can do things for the USA people, instead of the 1% creating jobs for illegal immigrants and Mexicans and Chinese and Indians.
Tom