Trump's strong support / Democrats' lack of support, by white women

[Revoltingest]

IMO social/news media has become very successful in making that connection.

"...have become..."

 

[Windwalker]

So, why do you persistently defend him? No one is forcing you to do that, you know.

I think you are mistaking me for @Twilight Hue . Or maybe you are conflating me with @Wildswanderer, as that name looks like mine sometimes?

You will never once find me defending Trump. Not even in the post you quoted from mistakenly thinking I was. Trump needs to be put in prison. He is vile example of humanity. And that's putting it mildly.

I hope this clarifies?

 

[Wildswanderer]

still early in his term, so maybe reserve some judgement. We know what Trump did over four years, and the fact that you defend such a man in terms of what he's repeatedly said and done, is simply an appalling violation of even the most basic Judeo-Christian teachings.

We don't elect people generally because they're perfect people. We elect people who will do the job.
I never defend trump's sins, BTW, so you are bearing false witness.

 

[anna.]

Is it concerning that statistically, about as many white women tend to vote for Trump in elections as the Democrat candidates who ran against him? And could this be the result of Democrat runners ignoring the needs of white women? If so, how are they doing so?

55% of white female voters voted for Trump, 43% voted for Biden. (Edison Research exit polls).

That's appalling. In my own white female Biden-voting opinion, the greater number of Trump-voting white females voted maintain the status quo: white majority=the default idea of a patriotic America.

 

[Daemon Sophic]

If I may?

The original premise of the OP is wrong. White women in the US voted for Hillary and for Biden in larger numbers than those who were suckered into voting for the orange failure-in-chief, who, I would also point out had a worse track record for promises kept vs broken than the last Democratic President (Mr. Obama).
And of course, trying to compare records of a 4 year president (by electoral college only) with 8 months of Biden’s term as he picks up after pathetic orange mop-head is weak sauce to say the least.

‘White Women Voted for Trump’ Is the Worst Election Trope

Trump vs Obama

For the illiterate, that’s Trump = 23% kept. 22% compromised. 53% Broken.
And for Obama = 51% kept. 25% compromised. And 24% broken.
Oooh! Too bad. So sad tRumpettes.


and No. Trump did not build the wall. However, he did squander a 25 Billion dollar offer from the Dems to modernize and complete the wall in order to get piddly 5 billion for a steel fence that has already been cut through and walked around in many locations. Because, ya know, “The Art of the”…..No… that’s not it……oh yeah! Because tRump’s a ****head.

PS - the exit polls were skewed due to the delay to get the final counts. Likely those Covid-sucking Repub women were more numerous at the actual ballot boxes than the wiser and better informed Dem women, who tipped the scales for our nation via the mail-in ballots.

 

[metis]

I think you are mistaking me for @Twilight Hue . Or maybe you are conflating me with @Wildswanderer, as that name looks like mine sometimes?

Sorry, you're right as it was the latter. For my penance, I owe you a beer of your choice, but do realize that delivery make take some time.

 

[Father Heathen]

If they support a sexual predator then why not!

Perhaps his supporters, but they certainly don't represent Americans as a whole.

 

[Revoltingest]

If they support a sexual predator then why not!

Voters who don't support sexual predation are just willing
to overlook it when the prefer one candidate to another,
eg, JFK, Clinton, Trump. There are many issues, policies,
& agendas to consider....the fact that a candidate is a vile
person is just one. I know many women who voted for &
even like the aforementioned boors.

I recommend against ever liking politicians. It's not just
that they'll disappoint. But affection is the mind killer.

 

[metis]

BTW, so you are bearing false witness.

Oh really, how supposedly is that? Your defense of Trump has largely been "generic" as you basically said that character doesn't much count with you, and my response was how can you as a Christian justify supporting such a person who both has serious moral defects under even the most basic Judeo-Christian teachings and who also tried to overturn the election so as basically to become our first dictator? Don't either of these bother you? If Biden did such a thing, I'd turn on him in a heartbeat, and I certainly have not tried to justify his errors if you check back with my previous posts.

IOW, "You are like the company you keep", and you've made it abundantly clear for a long time now that Trump is very much within your "company", so don't give us this disingenuous song & dance that you posted above. And there were clear-cut signs this is what he would be like if one followed the 2016 campaign, so don't give us an excuse about not knowing.

 

[ChristineM]

Perhaps his supporters, but they certainly don't represent Americans as a whole.

i was talking about his supporters, thats that this thread is about...

 

[Revoltingest]

Oh really, how supposedly is that? Your defense of Trump has largely been "generic" as you basically said that character doesn't much count with you, and my response was how can you as a Christian justify supporting such a person who both has serious moral defects under even the most basic Judeo-Christian teachings and who also tried to overturn the election so as basically to become our first dictator? Don't either of these bother you? If Biden did such a thing, I'd turn on him in a heartbeat, and I certainly have not tried to justify his errors if you check back with my previous posts.

IOW, "You are like the company you keep", and you've made it abundantly clear for a long time now that Trump is very much within your "company", so don't give us this disingenuous song & dance that you posted above. And there were clear-cut signs this is what he would be like if one followed the 2016 campaign, so don't give us an excuse about not knowing.

I urge caution in such personal criticism based upon flaws
of a politician one supports. Applied to you, one might say
that you favor endless wars because you supported Hillary.
I'd say that you can have reasons for this support, & that
you don't support everything she's done or said.

 

[Wildswanderer]

Oh really, how supposedly is that? Your defense of Trump has largely been "generic" as you basically said that character doesn't much count with you, and my response was how can you as a Christian justify supporting such a person who both has serious moral defects under even the most basic Judeo-Christian teachings and who also tried to overturn the election so as basically to become our first dictator? Don't either of these bother you? If Biden did such a thing, I'd turn on him in a heartbeat, and I certainly have not tried to justify his errors if you check back with my previous posts.

IOW, "You are like the company you keep", and you've made it abundantly clear for a long time now that Trump is very much within your "company", so don't give us this disingenuous song & dance that you posted above. And there were clear-cut signs this is what he would be like if one followed the 2016 campaign, so don't give us an excuse about not knowing.

Well if you want to make up stuff about Trump trying to be a dictator, all I can say is " just another conspiracy theorist."

And I don't support any personality for president, I support people with certain policies.
I would prefer someone with a personality I liked also, but it hasn't been an available option lately.

 

[Father Heathen]

i was talking about his supporters, thats that this thread is about...

I know that, but if we were discussing Comité Régional d'Action Viticole, I wouldn't say "Gee, The French sure love bombing and burning things."

 

[ChristineM]

I know that, but if we were discussing Comité Régional d'Action Viticole, I wouldn't say "Gee, The French sure love bombing and burning things."

Im sure you could make such a claim for the Languedoc-Roussillon area if france, however france us a multi party country and CAV have a very limited number of militants

 

[Windwalker]

Sorry, you're right as it was the latter. For my penance, I owe you a beer of your choice, but do realize that delivery make take some time.

That's a deal. I'm glad I was able to successfully troubleshoot the problem. I too have be taken off guard by the similarity of the names, thinking someone was replying to me when it was their name instead.

 

[ecco]

Aside from conservative supreme court justices, which congressional Republicans would have done with any Republican president and a massive tax cut for business and the wealthy, please name some.

Tax cuts.
Putting America first:
The United States left the Paris Climate Accord, the Iran Nuclear Agreement and the Trans-Pacific Partnership, and re-negotiated NAFTA with Canada and Mexico to form the new USMCA trade.
And he at least started on the wall.

Do you really think shouting makes your comments more true? It doesn't.

Again, the tax cuts overwhelmingly favored the wealthy and big business. Are you a 1%er? Are you the CEO of a major company?

You think pulling out of the Paris Accord is a good thing. Take your head out of the sand. Fifty people in the Northeast are dead from a massive amount of rain dropped in a very short time. Once in a hundred year storms are happening once in a decade.

The world thought an agreement with IRAN was a good thing. So do most Americans. You still believe nationalistic isolation is viable in the 21st Century.

Please state some specific benefits from the renegotiated trade deals. SPECIFICS!

"He started on the Wall" Really? What happened to I will build a beautiful wall? What happened to Mexico will pay for it. I saw much video of sheeples chanting "Build the Wall". I heard the crowd of sheeples yelling"MEXICO!" when Der Donald asked "...and whose gonna pay for it?" Maybe you were there, maybe you were one of them.

Other failed promises, and a few he kept are detailed here...
Trump-O-Meter: Tracking Trump's Campaign Promises | PolitiFact

Please glance through the list and tell me where you disagree with their findings.
You can start with his other big tug at the sheeple heart: Repeal and Replace ObamaCare.





ETA: Not a promise but worthy of consideration...
Bush implemented a pandemic response plan.
Obama improved upon it.
Trump gutted it.

680,000 Dead Americans and counting.

 

[ecco]

To some extent yes, other countries often have more choice than 2 parties.

The third person, Ralph Nader, got 97,000 votes in Florida. Florida, and the presidency, went to Bush.
Support for the third person, Sanders, kept many Dems from voting for Hillary. Without Sanders in the race, Clinton would have beaten Trump.

 

[metis]

Well if you want to make up stuff about Trump trying to be a dictator, all I can say is " just another conspiracy theorist."

Stop and think now. What do you think this would make Trump if he overthrew the election? Think... Think.

Democracy is gone because elections determine who wins in a democracy. So, what are the options if there's not an authentic election? Basically there are logically only two: a dictatorship [or monarchy] running the country or an oligarchy [rule by a few]. But what did and do we see with Trump via his own party? He ran it to the point whereas he literally scared any possible opponents within the party into supporting him or at least keeping them pretty quiet with very few exceptions. Even today after losing, very few of the congressional Pubs will stand up to him.

 

[metis]

I would prefer someone with a personality I liked also, but it hasn't been an available option lately.

I would suggest that a person's "character" is far more important than their "personality".

And when it comes to "character", remember "You are like the company you keep".

 

[Wildswanderer]

Do you really think shouting makes your comments more true? It doesn't.

Again, the tax cuts overwhelmingly favored the wealthy and big business. Are you a 1%er? Are you the CEO of a major company?

You think pulling out of the Paris Accord is a good thing. Take your head out of the sand. Fifty people in the Northeast are dead from a massive amount of rain dropped in a very short time. Once in a hundred year storms are happening once in a decade.

The world thought an agreement with IRAN was a good thing. So do most Americans. You still believe nationalistic isolation is viable in the 21st Century.

Please state some specific benefits from the renegotiated trade deals. SPECIFICS!

"He started on the Wall" Really? What happened to I will build a beautiful wall? What happened to Mexico will pay for it. I saw much video of sheeples chanting "Build the Wall". I heard the crowd of sheeples yelling"MEXICO!" when Der Donald asked "...and whose gonna pay for it?" Maybe you were there, maybe you were one of them.

Other failed promises, and a few he kept are detailed here...
Trump-O-Meter: Tracking Trump's Campaign Promises | PolitiFact

Please glance through the list and tell me where you disagree with their findings.
You can start with his other big tug at the sheeple heart: Repeal and Replace ObamaCare.





ETA: Not a promise but worthy of consideration...
Bush implemented a pandemic response plan.
Obama improved upon it.
Trump gutted it.

680,000 Dead Americans and counting.

Yawn. The question was who kept more campaign promises. I don't care if you agree with what he did or not.