Trust

[tempter]

Is trust earned, or is it freely handed out?

People seem to trust what God says (via the bible normally) is the truth. Yet there is no way of knowing beyond any doubt. So what did God do to/for these individuals to give out their trust like its a flyer at the local supermarket?

There is no earning trust with God that I have ever seen. It's simply given. There is nothing I have seen in any believer's life that can be shown as trust worthy coming from God.

 

[Skwim]

Is trust earned, or is it freely handed out?

People seem to trust what God says (via the bible normally) is the truth. Yet there is no way of knowing beyond any doubt. So what did God do to/for these individuals to give out their trust like its a flyer at the local supermarket?

There is no earning trust with God that I have ever seen. It's simply given. There is nothing I have seen in any believer's life that can be shown as trust worthy coming from God.

Some who have prayed to god for X and then received it believe he has earned it.

 

[Quagmire]

Is trust earned, or is it freely handed out?

People seem to trust their significant other, and take most of what they say as truth. Yet there is no way of knowing beyond any doubt. So what did these people's significant others do to/for these individuals to give out their trust like its a flyer at the local supermarket?

There is no earning trust between these partners that I have ever seen. It's simply given. There is nothing I have seen in any of these relationships that can be shown as trust worthy.

Hmmmm. Maybe I need a more powerful pair of binoculars.

 

[Quintessence]

Depends on what is meant by "trust." A basic level of trust is necessary for any meaningful interaction with something. If you label everyone you meet as "the enemy" and assume they speak only lies, then only lies you shall hear since you have prejudged them from the start. There will be no communication and only conflict. Not a very good way to approach the world, is it? At the very least, the religious traditions of the world are worth listening to. Whether or not you accept their mythos as your truth is a personal decision; likewise your reasons for accepting the mythos is personal and (ideally) need not be justified to anyone else. I would suggest that trust in a particular religious tradition (and its gods) stems from it being consistent with your personal experiences, its utility/practical value, and/or its emotional value. To begin to walk a religious path and have a relationship with the divine requires a certain degree of granted trust from the outset, just like having a conversation with any person. From there, the path must earn additional trust to warrant continued footsteps down that path. If, after talking with someone for a few minutes you realize you don't get along, you probably aren't going to tell them your life secrets. Religion and relationships with the gods don't work much differently (in my experience).

 

[Nooj]

So what did God do to/for these individuals to give out their trust like its a flyer at the local supermarket?

if god did something to or for people to gain their trust, then it is clearly not the case that people hand out their trust willy-nilly. the simile is bad.

 

[jasonwill2]

Is trust earned, or is it freely handed out?

People seem to trust what God says (via the bible normally) is the truth. Yet there is no way of knowing beyond any doubt. So what did God do to/for these individuals to give out their trust like its a flyer at the local supermarket?

There is no earning trust with God that I have ever seen. It's simply given. There is nothing I have seen in any believer's life that can be shown as trust worthy coming from God.

I made Ha-Satan earn my trust before I worked more with him... and he delivered.

 

[The Fog Horn]

Is trust earned, or is it freely handed out?

People seem to trust what God says (via the bible normally) is the truth. Yet there is no way of knowing beyond any doubt. So what did God do to/for these individuals to give out their trust like its a flyer at the local supermarket?

There is no earning trust with God that I have ever seen. It's simply given. There is nothing I have seen in any believer's life that can be shown as trust worthy coming from God.

Have faith in yourself and don't let yourself down.

 

[Orias]

Is trust earned, or is it freely handed out?

A little bit of both.

People seem to trust what God says (via the bible normally) is the truth. Yet there is no way of knowing beyond any doubt. So what did God do to/for these individuals to give out their trust like its a flyer at the local supermarket?

I'd assume he gave them no choice.

There is no earning trust with God that I have ever seen. It's simply given. There is nothing I have seen in any believer's life that can be shown as trust worthy coming from God.

Well this statement in itself shows that your not even desiring to seek this trust. And if you are, its more like a twinkie tied on a stick in front of your face out of arms length, you have to do more than simply stretch your arms out.

 

[arthra]

Is trust earned, or is it freely handed out?

People seem to trust what God says (via the bible normally) is the truth. Yet there is no way of knowing beyond any doubt. So what did God do to/for these individuals to give out their trust like its a flyer at the local supermarket?

There is no earning trust with God that I have ever seen. It's simply given. There is nothing I have seen in any believer's life that can be shown as trust worthy coming from God.

If you've done some study of human development you know that "trust" is essential to building relationships and if it is not there after three years or so of life there can be serious consequences...

An infant can do nothing to "earn" trust.. It needs the all accepting love of a mother to care for it and nurture it...Without care and nurture the child will not have a developed a basic trust in his mother and may become a sociopath later in life:

"A sociopath before treatment cannot trust anyone and must learn the fundaments of trust and interaction between people."

Read more: Does a sociopath have any real lasting feelings of rationality or does it keep getting worse as time goes by

In my view God has provided that all accepting love for his creatures and humanity and provided teachings that are needed for us to develope in this life.. We can turn against God and ignore His teachings. We are free to do that but there will be sad consequences to follow.

God first loves us and as we develope we can return that love or attempt to do so...

 

[JustWondering]

Is trust earned, or is it freely handed out?

People seem to trust what God says (via the bible normally) is the truth. Yet there is no way of knowing beyond any doubt. So what did God do to/for these individuals to give out their trust like its a flyer at the local supermarket?

There is no earning trust with God that I have ever seen. It's simply given. There is nothing I have seen in any believer's life that can be shown as trust worthy coming from God.

People see those they already trust (parents, loved ones, and friends) praying to, and worshipping a god. This is usually observed beggining as an infant on through adulthood. They assume their loved ones trust in their god is well deserved because they trust their loved ones judgement. Thus, they choose to join the herd and pray/worship the god as well. This continues on with every generation. Simple conformity.

 

[kfgran]

oh,thank you for provide it.

 

[tempter]

if god did something to or for people to gain their trust, then it is clearly not the case that people hand out their trust willy-nilly. the simile is bad.

Then the question is how do they know what was done was done by god?

 

[tempter]

Well this statement in itself shows that your not even desiring to seek this trust. And if you are, its more like a twinkie tied on a stick in front of your face out of arms length, you have to do more than simply stretch your arms out.

It's you're - just FYI
I'm sure you have the ability to explain exactly how you came to this less it's nothing more than a baseless statement.

 

[Nooj]

Then the question is how do they know what was done was done by god?

that is a good question.

i would say that one can never know with certainty that god did it. things happen and it is up to us to classify it as actions of god. this is necessarily personal and subjective. what one person sees as ordinary, another sees as extraordinary.

 

[Orias]

It's you're - just FYI
I'm sure you have the ability to explain exactly how you came to this less it's nothing more than a baseless statement.

Sorry, forgive me for my grammatical error, I don't make many of them. Aside from that, grammar is not an issue, because you knew what I was saying.

And there isn't much explaining to do, you either aren't truly seeking this relationship or trust or you're just teasing yourself with it. And I say that because God is a personal thing, so your beliefs might not be completely open to others interpretation of the sorts.

 

[waitasec]

i hope in trust, but i don't trust in hope
i don't know how trust can be something one deserves, however we all deserve hope

 

[tempter]

Sorry, forgive me for my grammatical error, I don't make many of them. Aside from that, grammar is not an issue, because you knew what I was saying.

And there isn't much explaining to do, you either aren't truly seeking this relationship or trust or you're just teasing yourself with it. And I say that because God is a personal thing, so your beliefs might not be completely open to others interpretation of the sorts.

Forgiveness is necessary.
Your are free to have whatever opinion you wish, I'm sure you know. Even if it's wrong. Though, I doubt it matters much to your MO.

 

[Orias]

What about it is wrong exactly?

You have clearly limited yourself in understanding by saying there is no earning trust with God that you have ever seen. Its a little too objective to me to say, well maybe from other people's interpretation of God they have earned trust with it.

You say its wrong without providing the necessary details, so I say you're on you're heels

 

[oldbadger]

In Domino Confide. The chances of any of us ever being born were so slight (1 sperm in billions after one egg, just at the right moment) that this might be equivalent to winning the Lottery continuously, a few weeks in a row. So exactly what do we demand to trust in now? We deserve nothing more before we first learn to trust (and discipline) ourselves. I have seen too many couples declare never-ending love, then end up cheating, hurting and hating each other. Each second of life is a journey of self-trust and (hopefully) as much love and understanding as possible, even as and when we get taken. (Wow.... that will be tough). We all demand too much. ????

 

[TheKnight]

Is trust earned, or is it freely handed out?

People seem to trust what God says (via the bible normally) is the truth. Yet there is no way of knowing beyond any doubt. So what did God do to/for these individuals to give out their trust like its a flyer at the local supermarket?

There is no earning trust with God that I have ever seen. It's simply given. There is nothing I have seen in any believer's life that can be shown as trust worthy coming from God.

Trust, like anything that human beings do, is dependent on its level of benefit to the individual. What does it mean to trust in a deity? What practical results does it imply?

For most people it doesn't mean much to trust in a deity beyond acknowledging somewhere on some theoretical level that they believe in one (or many).

Thus, the level of scrutiny required is usually not as high. After all, why should it be?