Truth: either God exists or He don't.

[Pilgrim Soldier]

You are a silly one tonight.

Drop your fear. Let yourself learn.

I have put the scientific method to the test many times and the result was always the same. All you end up with is an unproven hypothesis, I personally need proof before I believe any theory. As I keep saying, theories are like bums everyone has different one.

 

[Pilgrim Soldier]

Wake up and smell the coffee. The Prince of Peace has already come and gone and you missed the boat.
World peace will be established during this age which is the Messianic Age and will last no less than 1000 years.

Isaiah 9:6-7 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.

Baha’u’llah was the Prince of Peace because world peace will be established during His religious dispensation. Baha’u’llah set up a system of government and it has already been established among the Baha’is. The institutions of that government are fully operational, but still in their infancy. They will be more developed in the future as the prophecy says (increase in government).

These prophecies cannot refer to Jesus because Jesus disclaimed being the Mighty God when He called Himself “the Son of God” (John 5:18-47) and in those verses Jesus repudiates the charge that He claimed equality with God. Jesus disclaimed being the everlasting Father when He said, “my Father is greater than I” (John 14:28) and Jesus disclaimed being the Prince of Peace when He said, “I came not to send peace, but a sword” (Matthew 10:34). Jesus disclaimed bearing the government upon His shoulder when He said to “rend onto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's” (Mark 12:17, Matthew 22:21). Jesus disclaimed that He would establish a kingdom where he would rule with judgment and justice forever when He said, “My kingdom is not of this world” (John 18:36).

You can twist the scriptures to make them say what you want them to, until God summons you to stand before Him to be judged.
I have no idea who told you that the world would achieve peace, but Jesus promised that mankind would continue growing more and more violent and there would be ever increasing bloodshed between the nations.

He promised to return as a Man of war to spill the blood of billions of men women and children, He will take over every government by killing all the kings and rulers of the world and set Himself up as the only ruler of the whole world. He will kill all unbelievers, and give the world to Christians to have and rule forever.

 

[Pilgrim Soldier]

What you are stating in this thread is opinion though, not facts.

That's your opinion and you are welcome to hold it as long as you wish, but the reality is the truth exists and it's not dependant on your approval or opinion to live.

 

[Pilgrim Soldier]

So if I understand you correctly, the fallen angels and the Nephilim made a civilisation that was far more advanced than our own, creating the pyramids and controlling the dinosaurs?

Absolutely, today's scientists wouldn't have a clue about Nephilim technology, they are dumbfounded and gobsmacked by what they found.
scientists have been getting dumber and dumber with every generation, we call them degenerate as they are very primitive and dumb compared to the ancient scientists.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I have put the scientific method to the test many times and the result was always the same. All you end up with is an unproven hypothesis, I personally need proof before I believe any theory. As I keep saying, theories are like bums everyone has different one.

You have demonstrated that you do not understand what the scientific method is so you could never have tested it.

By the way, you do not know what "proof" is either. In reality it looks as if you are only looking for excuses to believe. That all but guarantees incorrect beliefs. For example, though you do not realize it, believe that your God is a liar. What will you do if he is real?

 

[Pilgrim Soldier]

Then propose a better method that allows for human fallibility.

The scientific method is *bar far* the best way we have to learn about the universe. It *far* exceeds the capability of religion to do so.

Evidence: look at the advances over the last 400 years compared to the previous 2000.

we don't even know what the ancient scientists knew, as most of their technology was destroyed by those who wanted to dumb down society. The rulers of this world always executed intelligent people, they just like the dummies who don't know anything.
Intelligent people have always been see as a threat to the rulers, so they just keep wiping them out in every age. Chairman Mau wiped out millions of intellectuals. His Conrad's did the same thing in Russia and other parts of the world.
They say the truth is always the first victim in any conflict, it's always been the same. that's why the world has lost 6000 years worth of technology

 

[Pilgrim Soldier]

They looked at what was offered and found that it wasn't even close to being enough to prove the case.

I personally believe along with around half the world that Trump won the election but it was stolen by the deep state which has no loyalty to any country. The whole world will soon be taken over by the same multinationals, who already rule the financial world.
Trump doesn't have enough money to defend himself, so he had no choice but to hand the presidency over to the globalists.

 

[Pilgrim Soldier]

You have demonstrated that you do not understand what the scientific method is so you could never have tested it.

By the way, you do not know what "proof" is either. In reality it looks as if you are only looking for excuses to believe. That all but guarantees incorrect beliefs. For example, though you do not realize it, believe that your God is a liar. What will you do if he is real?

You keep accusing God of being a liar but you have not provided any reason for this false accusation

 

[Pilgrim Soldier]

Actual observation trumps philosophy or religion every time.

But have you considered that your observation could be an illusion?

 

[Samael_Khan]

That's your opinion and you are welcome to hold it as long as you wish, but the reality is the truth exists and it's not dependant on your approval or opinion to live.

That is just your opinion. What you call truth is just a matter of opinion.

 

[Samael_Khan]

Absolutely, today's scientists wouldn't have a clue about Nephilim technology, they are dumbfounded and gobsmacked by what they found.
scientists have been getting dumber and dumber with every generation, we call them degenerate as they are very primitive and dumb compared to the ancient scientists.

Well no they haven't been getting dumber and dumber with each generation. If your theory is correct then humans today would be dumber compared to then, but it is more like technology was all of a sudden lost at one point and then humanity gradually advanced in technology again. If scientists were getting dumber and dumber with each generation we would be seeing a decrease in technology over the past two millenniums. But in fact we had the industrial revolution just over 1 hundred years ago that introduced technology we didn't have 2 millenniums ago. We have been getting more advanced technologically rather than decreasing which shows that scientists have been getting more knowledgeable not dumber.

 

[Pilgrim Soldier]

That is just your opinion. What you call truth is just a matter of opinion.

The truth is not subjective to anyone's opinion, it independent and everyone will be judged according to what they did with the truth. Nobody gets to invent the truth, it has always existed unchanged. Theories come and go all the time but the truth remains rock solid and eternally unchanging

 

[Samael_Khan]

I personally believe along with around half the world that Trump won the election but it was stolen by the deep state which has no loyalty to any country. The whole world will soon be taken over by the same multinationals, who already rule the financial world.
Trump doesn't have enough money to defend himself, so he had no choice but to hand the presidency over to the globalists.

Half the world doesn't believe that conspiracy theory. In fact the majority of the world think that Trump is delusional and being a crybaby. They think he is a joke. What you are saying more accurately applies to a good number of Americans

 

[Samael_Khan]

The truth is not subjective to anyone's opinion, it independent and everyone will be judged according to what they did with the truth. Nobody gets to invent the truth, it has always existed unchanged. Theories come and go all the time but the truth remains rock solid and eternally unchanging

I agree that truth is absolute. But what you think is the truth is subjective. You state your opinion and not facts therefore your beliefs are subjective.

 

[Pilgrim Soldier]

Well no they haven't been getting dumber and dumber with each generation. If your theory is correct then humans today would be dumber compared to then, but it is more like technology was all of a sudden lost at one point and then humanity gradually advanced in technology again. If scientists were getting dumber and dumber with each generation we would be seeing a decrease in technology over the past two millenniums. But in fact we had the industrial revolution just over 1 hundred years ago that introduced technology we didn't have 2 millenniums ago. We have been getting more advanced technologically rather than decreasing which shows that scientists have been getting more knowledgeable not dumber.

That's just outright wrong, technology has been increasing over the past 100 in comparison to the 19th century. But this technology is the result of the discovery of computers, so the scientists are getting dumber but the accumulation of computer data is increasing. Artificial Intelligence is the only thing increasing, but man has been getting dumber all the time.
One of our customers is highly decorated Haematologist, but he couldn't figure out a simple problem with his Mercedes Benz. He picked it up after we serviced it then rang half an hour later saying the car wouldn't start, I went to his house and found that our apprentice didn't tighten the battery terminal after he reconnected it.
The Doctor didn't have the intelligence to figure out that it must be the battery if there are no lights on the dash instrument when you try to start it.
50 years ago people had common sense, they were able to build and repair things. This generation is the dumbest in human history

 

[Pilgrim Soldier]

Half the world doesn't believe that conspiracy theory. In fact the majority of the world think that Trump is delusional and being a crybaby. They think he is a joke. What you are saying more accurately applies to a good number of Americans

No that's wrong, half the world knows that the election wasn't fair. Even the Chinese know this but they pretend they don't, the 99% of Russians believe it was stolen and anyone who observed the process would conclude that it doesn't make any sense.
Trump was winning in most of the disputed States, but the results changed overnight.

 

[Pilgrim Soldier]

I agree that truth is absolute. But what you think is the truth is subjective. You state your opinion and not facts therefore your beliefs are subjective.

NO no no, Jesus said "I am the truth" He is the almighty creator of all things so He doesn't lie. He is the only One who claimed to be the truth and He proved it while all the other are full of hot air with no proof.

 

[Samael_Khan]

That's just outright wrong, technology has been increasing over the past 100 in comparison to the 19th century. But this technology is the result of the discovery of computers, so the scientists are getting dumber but the accumulation of computer data is increasing. Artificial Intelligence is the only thing increasing, but man has been getting dumber all the time.
One of our customers is highly decorated Haematologist, but he couldn't figure out a simple problem with his Mercedes Benz. He picked it up after we serviced it then rang half an hour later saying the car wouldn't start, I went to his house and found that our apprentice didn't tighten the battery terminal after he reconnected it.
The Doctor didn't have the intelligence to figure out that it must be the battery if there are no lights on the dash instrument when you try to start it.
50 years ago people had common sense, they were able to build and repair things. This generation is the dumbest in human history

Anecdotal evidence is irrelevent. If we go that route, then I can say how I know some people who are super autodidactic and can figure things out from scratch.

You are assuming that people in the past weren't as stupid as the Haematologist you mentioned. How would you go about that?

All we have is the data and the data shows that humanity has improved technologically in significant ways. The added knowledge is making humans more intelligent as we can do things that people in the past couldn't comprehend.

 

[Samael_Khan]

No that's wrong, half the world knows that the election wasn't fair. Even the Chinese know this but they pretend they don't, the 99% of Russians believe it was stolen and anyone who observed the process would conclude that it doesn't make any sense.
Trump was winning in most of the disputed States, but the results changed overnight.

Nope the world doesn't know it. Also, China and Russia do not make up half the worlds population. The world thinks that Trump is a crybaby.

 

[Samael_Khan]

NO no no, Jesus said "I am the truth" He is the almighty creator of all things so He doesn't lie. He is the only One who claimed to be the truth and He proved it while all the other are full of hot air with no proof.

Some guys who wrote a couple of books claimed that Jesus said "I am the Truth". And just because he says so, there is no reason for me to believe him. And I have no idea whether Jesus lied or not, but since he was human it is most likely that he did on occasion.

I know about a guy who said that he was the only one that the angel Moroni spoke to. Does that make what he said legit?

Will you claim that any statement is true as long as the person saying it was the only person to ever say it?