Truth is not constant.

[mikkel_the_dane]

I don't really care, i do know that gravity works though

So do I. I was born on a cliff and I spent all my time wondering if I should jump or not. That is the truth and all of reality. /s

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Philosophy is not fact or reality,.

Yet, you speak of it in reality and as a part of reality.

 

[Onoma]

Just to add this into the conversation - Do you think that science and what constitutes the scientific method is universal ? ( Something that would exist anywhere sentient life evolves - we could ask the same, but sub math or philosophy for science )

 

[Spirit of Light]

Just to add this into the conversation - Do you think that science and what constitutes the scientific method is universal ? ( Something that would exist anywhere sentient life evolves - we could ask the same, but sub math or philosophy for science )

If you asked me as the OP starter in my understanding science only work in our human world, nowhere else since science is human made

 

[ChristineM]

So do I. I was born on a cliff and I spent all my time wondering if I should jump or not. That is the truth and all of reality. /s

It may be the truth but most certainly not ALL of reality

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Just to add this into the conversation - Do you think that science and what constitutes the scientific method is universal ? ( Something that would exist anywhere sentient life evolves - we could ask the same, but sub math or philosophy for science )

If for me? Yes, in the end. The strong objective parts under methodological naturalism seems to hold. But the problem is that objective reality is not all of reality.
Here is one definition of objective reality: Having reality independently of the mind. Now try to remove the mind.

 

[Heyo]

Truth change according to what level of wisdom a person has achieved.
It means two people do not see the same truth, because no person hold the exact same wisdom level.
Relative truth and conditional truth are two different truths, but they are both true.

I know of relative truth
"Today is Sunday" is true at my location but not in Australia (and it won't be for six days in a few hours).
and of conditional truth
"The sum of the angles in a triangle is 180°" - on a plain.
but what truth changes with wisdom?
Example, please?

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

It may be the truth but most certainly not ALL of reality

Now here is a part of reality:
Click the link:
Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy | An encyclopedia of philosophy articles written by professional philosophers.

That is a part of reality and a fact, that some humans do philosophy.

 

[ChristineM]

Yet, you speak of it in reality and as a part of reality.

That philosophy exists as a discipline does not mean thinking about something makes it real

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

I know of relative truth
"Today is Sunday" is true at my location but not in Australia (and it won't be for six days in a few hours).
and of conditional truth
"The sum of the angles in a triangle is 180°" - on a plain.
but what truth changes with wisdom?
Example, please?

E.g the understanding of truth changes with wisdom.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

That philosophy exists as a discipline does not mean thinking about something makes it real

No, the unreal really exists as the unreal, right. Just as nothing really exists as nothing. I mean really real.

 

[ChristineM]

Now here is a part of reality:
Click the link:
Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy | An encyclopedia of philosophy articles written by professional philosophers.

That is a part of reality and a fact, that some humans do philosophy.

See my post #69?

 

[ChristineM]

No, the unreal really exists as the unreal, right. Just as nothing really exists as nothing. I mean really real.

Evidence please

 

[Unveiled Artist]

does a tree falling in the forest make a sound?
when no one is there to hear it

I suppose.....if the tree fell on the witness......
it would be a crushing truth

Like 2 and 2 do we need to be there in order to confirm the consequence of contact such as sound from the crash?

Do we need to be in the "presence" of truth for it to be so or is it independent of our presence and opinions?

 

[OtherSheep]

Truth change according to what level of wisdom a person has achieved.
It means two people do not see the same truth, because no person hold the exact same wisdom level.
Relative truth and conditional truth are two different truths, but they are both true.

YES! Absolutely true.

If you're told that you are constantly changing your mind, it's because you never stop researching and therefore growing. New truth is that for which room must be made, often replacing what we used to believe.

Sadly, truth is not contagious.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Evidence please

I am now only thinking about the unreal and then I am writing it down and now you see it. That is how real only thinking is. If you couldn't think, you couldn't act.
And even if God is not real, the thinking of God is real, because you can observe it on a bran scan, right.

Humans have been burn for being witches, though witches aren't real.
To paraphrase: The unreal can have real consequences.

 

[Altfish]

No, that is not true in binary base.
It is relatively true based on there being beings with cognition which can do that. 2+2=4 is not true of the universe. Without humans it wouldn't be true.

Pedantic

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Pedantic

How true.

 

[Father Heathen]

Truth change according to what level of wisdom a person has achieved.
It means two people do not see the same truth, because no person hold the exact same wisdom level.
Relative truth and conditional truth are two different truths, but they are both true.

By your definition, "truth" is worthless.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

By your definition, "truth" is worthless.

To you. To me it is the biggest truth.