Try to prove to me your religion.

[Corthos]

Hmmm... Interesting that you ask for proof. I feel what's more important than a proof that one religion of thousands is the correct one, however, is finding one that inspires, doesn't confine your ability to learn from the world around you and apply that knowledge, and doesn't conflict with who you are and what you believe. I hope whatever you find gives you peace of mind and is not only a positive influence on you, but in how you interact with the world... Even if you find that you never even needed anything to begin with. =)

 

[savagewind]

Jesus is the "Word" of God, which in the original language means that he spoke for God. But any word that came from God, whether from his prophets or from his son was committed to writing...so the Bible is also the "word" of God. Holy spirit directed the writing and the preservation of God's word. Without it we would not know what Christ taught.

How do you know "Holy spirit directed the writing and the preservation of God's word"?

 

[savagewind]

Jesus is the "Word" of God, which in the original language means that he spoke for God. But any word that came from God, whether from his prophets or from his son was committed to writing...so the Bible is also the "word" of God. Holy spirit directed the writing and the preservation of God's word. Without it we would not know what Christ taught.

John 1:1 Who was God speaking to "in the beginning"?

 

[Deeje]

How do you know "Holy spirit directed the writing and the preservation of God's word"?

2 Tim 3:16, 17....
"All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, 17 so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work."

"All scripture" was initially the Hebrew scriptures, quoted by Jesus and his apostles, but it came to include the Greek scriptures to make up the complete word of God. The Greek scriptures are also inspired of God and contain the teachings of Jesus Christ, without which we would know nothing about him or his apostles.

No holy book has survived as long and been preserved as accurately as the Bible. The Dead Sea Scrolls proved that this was true. Despite all attempts to destroy it, it is still here and instructing right hearted people all over the world, just as God intended.

John 1:1 Who was God speaking to "in the beginning"?

His firstborn son...his Master Worker. (Prov 8:22, 30, 31) The one "through whom" creation came. (Col 1:15, 16)

 

[savagewind]

2 Tim 3:16, 17....
"All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, 17 so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work."

"All scripture" was initially the Hebrew scriptures, quoted by Jesus and his apostles, but it came to include the Greek scriptures to make up the complete word of God. The Greek scriptures are also inspired of God and contain the teachings of Jesus Christ, without which we would know nothing about him or his apostles.

No holy book has survived as long and been preserved as accurately as the Bible. The Dead Sea Scrolls proved that this was true. Despite all attempts to destroy it, it is still here and instructing right hearted people all over the world, just as God intended.



His firstborn son...his Master Worker. (Prov 8:22, 30, 31) The one "through whom" creation came. (Col 1:15, 16)

Do you know the word "all" in ancient Hebrew does not necessarily mean "every"? I think that you ought to know it seeing you speak as an authority.
http://biblehub.com/greek/3956.htm
all (731), all the things (7), all...things (1), all kinds (1), all men (14), all people (4), all respects (3), all things (126), all* (1), always* (3), any (16), any at all (1), anyone (3), anything (3), anything* (1), continually* (6), entire (4), every (128), every form (1), every kind (9), every respect (1), every way (2), everyone (71), everyone's (1), everyone* (1), everything (45), forever* (1), full (2), great (2), no* (15), none* (1), nothing (1), nothing* (1), one (4), perfectly (1), quite (1), whatever (3), whatever* (1), whoever (7), whole (18).

 

[savagewind]

I go with WHOLE thank you very much.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

There's going to be a big problem if people reply. One, what is your definition of true? What is true for me maybe different than what is true for you, but by what means do you differienate what is true and what is a belief on both of our parts?

Then you have many different faiths not just abrahamic. Some of them are naturalistic, some atheist, etc. So those religions may seem true while someone else has a very good argument that god is the true because logically, from their point of view he is the first cause. Is it true? I dont know. I dont believe in it but it is logical from their view.

So, you have to kinda give us what you believe is true (what are the qualifications), that, or I dont know if many people will answer given what is true is not subjective, it is objective on the sides of both parties views.

1) The standard English definition of true, any other definition is a means of self decepation.

2) Atheism is not a faith.

3) Truth is objective but you seem to be under the impression it is subjective.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

The reason that there is something, rather than nothing, is called God.
Tom

Do you have any means of proving that statement?

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

Don't be an armchair skeptic and do your own research. That's how you will acquire knowledge see where the evidence leads.

Thank you for assuming I have not researched any religions.

Perhaps I already have and am just trying to here other people's arguments for them.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

What do you mean by 'prove'? You know 'proof' is impossible.

But anyway, no such thing can be done in a reply post. You have to be hungry to learn and study. And then ask more specific questions.

Proof is not impossible.

So are you saying that you have to ask the right questions?

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

Whyever would I want to do that????

I do not know why you would, but I wish to learn what religion if any is true.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

Imagine all life is interconnected like some superhighway. No super powerful magic can discern each and every crossover but my god can. My god can even draw the exact highway that existed a moment ago. Can even see the next moment.

Can you provide any proof of that statement?

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

No shortcuts. Read God's word, starting with the Gospels and ask for God's direction in understanding what you read. Don't skim, but dissect what you read and analyze it.
Stop and meditate on what it is trying to teach you. Ask questions and digest the answers. Throw away pre-conceived ideas and start with a clean slate. Avoid speculative rubbish and keep what your heart genuinely responds to. Truth will resonate.
Jesus said, "you will know the truth and the truth will set you free"....this is what it did for me.

I already have done all of that but used my mind to determine what IS true instead of my emotions to what I WANT to be true.

As the Bible both contradicts itself and cannot prove itself to be valid this is not helpful.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

no

Then why did you post here at all?

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

I can do this with several sets of items, also many of these have nothing to do with the functions of the cell parts.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

I'd say it short, hopefully.

Everything we do comes from the mind. That's our origin of how we sense things from our experiences (say from God to eating delicious chocolate) to the more concrete things as feeling pain from stubbing a toe or translating the reaction from the body of if you are experiencing a gut feeling or, because of your beliefs (in the mind) is it a message from god.

Without the mind, there is no "life". We have energy, automotive functions, etc. What do you do when you can't think, and the brain can't function to help you make sense of the world?

That is why everything originates in the mind. Outside of that, live exists in its own origin. However, nothing is created and nothing disapears; and you can test this by thinking something to appear or disapear. Everything changes form. Nothing is perminent. We see this in nature, we see the cycles of the earth, and even our cycles in all meanings of the word.

I dont see how this doesn't make sense. That is my take.

Simply observing that we are a consciousness and that matter is eternal (being a from of energy) Is simply a scientific fact that has nothing to do with religion.

 

[savagewind]

Matthew 21:10 πᾶσα Strong's 3956

 

[savagewind]

Can you provide any proof of that statement?

It's called reality. Ever hear of it?

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

If God is real, then so is his word. His worshippers have always appealed to it for truth. God has the ability to preserve and protect his word from translation errors, so we should all be able to discern his will from reading it in any language.
Who invented language anyway? Who better than to see to it that the right people get the message? The wrong people reject it...this is what leads to disaster. Christian unity can only be achieved if all have the same beliefs. (1 Cor 1:10) That cannot happen if everyone can simply believe whatever they like. If God only speaks by holy spirit, then he is giving a lot of mixed messages to a lot of different people. This just creates confusion....He has never done this.

1) So you believe God is real because of a book that says that god is real and the book must be true because god is real. That is circle logic a logical fallacy and proves nothing.

2) Which English translation of the bible do you use?

3) Probably homo erectus, homo sapiens, or homo neanderthalsis though dolphins have a rudimentary one.

4) So the right people get to go to heaven and the wrong burn in hell for eternity?

5) So if you want to create Christian unity you must take the bible literally as it says, therefore you need to believe the earth is flat for instance.

6) Except the prophets that spoke through the "holy spirit" right?

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

Jesus is the "Word" of God, which in the original language means that he spoke for God. But any word that came from God, whether from his prophets or from his son was committed to writing...so the Bible is also the "word" of God. Holy spirit directed the writing and the preservation of God's word. Without it we would not know what Christ taught.

Then why do so many contradictions exist in it?