Try to prove to me your religion.

[Taylor Seraphim]

You did not exactly say they are bad people. However, you said they do not have a high standard in living. You are stereotypical.

You lie again.

Quote where I said that.

I am saying that they do not have a higher standard of living than other people.

 

[JustWondering]

Give me a legitimate error in the Qur´an and i will convert. There are no errors in the Qur´an. Everyone hear me out on this, i believe Qur´an is divine and has no errors. Until you can prove me wrong, i stand on this belief. I challenge anyone to give me one error in Qur´an and i will convert if you do. (YOU WONT)

I could care less if you convert to Scientology.

You will never except that there could possibly ever be an error in the quran. You are being dishonest again. I have already shown you two errors in the quran and provided reasoned arguments AND evidence to back it. Your response was complete denial. Don't make promises you can't keep.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

You clearly do not, explain to me how mountains do not stabilize? You are just a skeptic and refuse to believe in the evidence i provide.

Skeptics believe in evidence by definition!

You made the positive claim that mountains stabilize the earth so YOU need to provide the evidence that they do.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

@Jabar

Provide a retort to this.

He said not to use the Qur'an as evidence you dolt.

In reality seismic activity tends to be even more active around mountains because they tend to be on the borders of seismic plates.

But lets not try to confuse you with real science.

 

[Jabar]

Mindlessly quoting the quran and than exclaiming "aha I'm right!" is not evidence, it is not a well reasoned argument, but it is proselytizing.

Again, I direct you to post 418. Which you probably will not read and try to refute like a rational person.

Brother, do you refer to my posts?

I think not.

Isotacy is evidence. Mountain masses deflect. They are distributed evenly and perfectly on earth which stabilizes the earth. The roots of the mountains beneath the surface beneath the surface of the Earth are several times deeper than height of what appears above the surface.


There is no error in the Qur´an. This is a part of what mountains do, as they are described in other verses as well. This all is fit into modern science.

Proportional size of Mountains:
And they ask you concerning the mountains, say; ‘My Lord will blast them and scatter them as particles of dust.

‘Then He shall leave it as a level smooth plain.

‘You will see therein nothing crooked or curved’”

Modern science approves.

And the earth We spread out, and placed therein firm mountains”
And We have placed on the earth firm mountains, lest it should shake with them”
Have We not made the earth as a bed,

And the mountains as pegs?”
The description of the mountains as “firm” and the statement that Allah, may He be exalted, “fixed them firmly” means that they are stable.

All this is approved of modern science.

 

[JustWondering]

Brother, do you refer to my posts?

I think not.

Isotacy is evidence. Mountain masses deflect. They are distributed evenly and perfectly on earth which stabilizes the earth. The roots of the mountains beneath the surface beneath the surface of the Earth are several times deeper than height of what appears above the surface.


There is no error in the Qur´an. This is a part of what mountains do, as they are described in other verses as well. This all is fit into modern science.

Proportional size of Mountains:
And they ask you concerning the mountains, say; ‘My Lord will blast them and scatter them as particles of dust.

‘Then He shall leave it as a level smooth plain.

‘You will see therein nothing crooked or curved’”

Modern science approves.

And the earth We spread out, and placed therein firm mountains”
And We have placed on the earth firm mountains, lest it should shake with them”
Have We not made the earth as a bed,

And the mountains as pegs?”
The description of the mountains as “firm” and the statement that Allah, may He be exalted, “fixed them firmly” means that they are stable.

All this is approved of modern science.

What does Isostasy have to do with the quran claiming mountains are pegs that keep the earth from shaking?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isostasy

You're floundering.

You clearly cannot construct a coherent, rational rebuttal.

Is English a second language for you?

 

[Jabar]

What does Isostasy have to do with the quran claiming mountains are pegs that keep the earth from shaking?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isostasy

You're floundering.

You clearly cannot construct a coherent, rational rebuttal.

Is English a second language for you?

Geology and Isostasy relate to each other...
The reason i gave the Qur´an claiming mountains are pegs was to show you the other evidential information about mountains in the Qur´an which is approved of by modern science.

You yourself cannot provide a rational argument. You make misconceptions and jump to conclusions to quickly...

The fact that you cannot comprehend scriptural information even with the English translation at your fingertips makes me question your language.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

Geology and Isostasy relate to each other...
The reason i gave the Qur´an claiming mountains are pegs was to show you the other evidential information about mountains in the Qur´an which is approved of by modern science.

You yourself cannot provide a rational argument. You make misconceptions and jump to conclusions to quickly...

The fact that you cannot comprehend scriptural information even with the English translation at your fingertips makes me question your language.

I love how you iignore my post becuase you have no answer for them.

It shows me you are a troll or a fool.

Case closed.

Now get of this thread please.

 

[Sundance]

What Buddha says about his own station contradicts what you believe his station to be.

As would the beliefs of various Mahayana Buddhists, but like I said, He wouldn't care at all. Different religions can have different beliefs about the same person, y'know? No issue.

 

[gnostic]

And the mountains as pegs?”
The description of the mountains as “firm” and the statement that Allah, may He be exalted, “fixed them firmly” means that they are stable.

All this is approved of modern science.

This demonstrate that the author is so ignorant about science.

Mountains are not always stable.

The Himalayas prove that these regions are prone to earthquakes every year. That because the Indian subcontinent tectonic plate is still pushing into Asian continent, which cause the uplift of earth. The Himalayas, especially Everest is still growing upward. Not only that, the Himalayas is also moving northward.

Why do you think there are earthquakes in Nepal, northern India and the Tibet?

And btw, mountains are not pegs, that give faulty impressions of what mountains are. And no scientists today, unless they are silly Muslim scientists would use pegs to describe mountains.

The Qur'an and the author (whether it be the prophet or this imaginary deity) are so stupid.

 

[Jabar]

I love how you iignore my post becuase you have no answer for them.

It shows me you are a troll or a fool.

Case closed.

Now get of this thread please.

Who said you were the boss?
Anyhow, when i have another person talking to me and you yourself is spamming me with things as well, i would assume it is not entirely possible to answer to everything you say.
Therefore, do not jump to conclusions.

The fact that you want me to get of this thread makes me think that the exposure given to you was extreme...
I mean you can just ask me to chill out, hehe.

 

[JustWondering]

The reason i gave the Qur´an claiming mountains are pegs was to show you the other evidential information about mountains in the Qur´an which is approved of by modern science.

What modern science claims that mountains keep the earth from shaking? Provide links.

 

[Jabar]

This demonstrate that the author is so ignorant about science.

Mountains are not always stable.

The Himalayas prove that these regions are prone to earthquakes every year. That because the Indian subcontinent tectonic plate is still pushing into Asian continent, which cause the uplift of earth. The Himalayas, especially Everest is still growing upward. Not only that, the Himalayas is also moving northward.

Why do you think there are earthquakes in Nepal, northern India and the Tibet?

The Qur'an and the author are stupid.

I think you are wrong.
I believe the person reading is not comprehending correctly.


It never says that the mountains were only made for that purpose, does it? As a general statement it would be correct to say Mountains are stable because they are.

Earthquakes are caused by Allah, he is All-Knowing and All-Mighty.

 

[Sundance]

Yes, I looked into it when I lost my faith as a Christian. However, since it embraces the Abrahamic god concept which I don't believe in, I didn't dig too deeply into it.

Understood.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

As would the beliefs of various Mahayana Buddhists, but like I said, He wouldn't care at all. Different religions can have different beliefs about the same person, y'know? No issue.

Question then.

What makes you think Bahai is correct?

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

I think you are wrong.
I believe the person reading is not comprehending correctly.


It never says that the mountains were only made for that purpose, does it? As a general statement it would be correct to say Mountains are stable because they are.

Earthquakes are caused by Allah, he is All-Knowing and All-Mighty.

Back-pedaling like a *****.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

Who said you were the boss?
Anyhow, when i have another person talking to me and you yourself is spamming me with things as well, i would assume it is not entirely possible to answer to everything you say.
Therefore, do not jump to conclusions.

The fact that you want me to get of this thread makes me think that the exposure given to you was extreme...
I mean you can just ask me to chill out, hehe.

No, you provide no evidnace for your claims that the Qur'an is true expect for verses from the Qur'an which is either.

A) Extremely stupid.

or

B) You being a troll.

 

[Sundance]

Question then.

What makes you think Bahai is correct?

I believe that it's true for me, it's the right religion for me. Each person should find a faith or philosophy that speaks to where their head and heart are. For me, among Abrahamic Faiths, I noticed it is the only one in which pluralism was inherent from the beginning. Its acceptance of the validity of non-Abrahamic Faiths is unique. As Bahá'ís, we view all, especially the major, religions as different Revelations from the same God. Plus, if you look at how the Faith was spread, it became the second most widespread religion in the world not with guns and swords, or through fear, but rather love, acceptance, and brotherhood. This is what I love about my Faith! This is what's so beautiful about it. This is why it's true for me!

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

I believe that it's true for me

So you think truth is subjective?

 

[JustWondering]

I think you are wrong.
I believe the person reading is not comprehending correctly.

I know exactly where you're coming from, you are the one having the comprehension issues. I have to go for now. Have fun with this until I can respond again.