Try to prove to me your religion.

[Jabar]

Lying again?

I have showed you plenty of logic as well as pointing out logical fallacies in your reasoning.

While you have yet to exhibit one piece of sound logic.

Tell me how this is not logical evidence.
As the Qur´an contains a taste of your own medicine (science) evidences to prove its divinity. Let me give you a verse that is approved of modern science:

And it is We Who have constructed the heaven with might, and verily, it is We Who are steadily expanding it. (Qur'an, 51:47)

The discovery of the universe expanding has been found in modern times. In 1929, Edwin Hubble, an astronomer at Caltech, made a critical discovery that soon led to scientific answers for these questions: he discovered that the universe is expanding.

In 1929. The Qur'an was revealed 1400 years ago. Lets do some math Basically, 2016-1400= 616. So, in the year 616, the Qur'an had this information. This shows divinity.

Now, lets subtract the year it was discovered and the year Qur'an was revealed. 1,929-616= 1,313.

This is a 1,313 years difference. The Qur'an made a discovery that was found in 1929, 1,313 years back in the past. Now tell how this could be possible. There were no telescopes or any way that you could find this out.

This is one ounce of the many evidences i can provide.
You provide no logic but stick your beliefs too much that you do not even comprehend the other side of the story much less, see it.

 

[EtuMalku]

Tell me how this is not logical evidence.
As the Qur´an contains a taste of your own medicine (science) evidences to prove its divinity. Let me give you a verse that is approved of modern science:

And it is We Who have constructed the heaven with might, and verily, it is We Who are steadily expanding it. (Qur'an, 51:47)

The discovery of the universe expanding has been found in modern times. In 1929, Edwin Hubble, an astronomer at Caltech, made a critical discovery that soon led to scientific answers for these questions: he discovered that the universe is expanding.

In 1929. The Qur'an was revealed 1400 years ago. Lets do some math Basically, 2016-1400= 616. So, in the year 616, the Qur'an had this information. This shows divinity.

Now, lets subtract the year it was discovered and the year Qur'an was revealed. 1,929-616= 1,313.

This is a 1,313 years difference. The Qur'an made a discovery that was found in 1929, 1,313 years back in the past. Now tell how this could be possible. There were no telescopes or any way that you could find this out.

This is one ounce of the many evidences i can provide.
You provide no logic but stick your beliefs too much that you do not even comprehend the other side of the story much less, see.

You cannot be serious with this Islamic crap . . . are you?

 

[Jabar]

You cannot be serious with this Islamic crap . . . are you?

Are you insulting Islam? Brother, just because the Qur'an contains impressive scientific evidences does not mean you should become jealous and start hating on Islam.

Do not be a hater

 

[EtuMalku]

Are you insulting Islam? Brother, just because the Qur'an contains impressive scientific evidences does not mean you should become jealous and start hating on Islam.

Do not be a hater

The Quran is full of scientific inconsistencies, myth, faith, hatred, abuse, manipulation . . . hardly anything beneficial to mankind . . . IMO
And for the record . . . I hate all the Abrahamic faiths 'equally'

 

[EtuMalku]

I mean . . . look at all misinformation!
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Scientific_Errors_in_the_Quran

 

[Jabar]

I mean . . . look at all misinformation!
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Scientific_Errors_in_the_Quran

Haha, i deal with people like you all the time. Step by Step process of Islamic haters:
1. ISLAM IS FAKEEE
2. GOOGLE QURAN ERRORS
3. HAHAHA!! SEE THESE ARE ERRORS.


I think you should read the Qur'an. These are all misconceptions made by people. Give me one error at a time and i will answer them ALL for you.

Todays society is acting brainwashed.

 

[EtuMalku]

Haha, i deal with people like you all the time. Step by Step process of Islamic haters:
1. ISLAM IS FAKEEE
2. GOOGLE QURAN ERRORS
3. HAHAHA!! SEE THESE ARE ERRORS.


I think you should read the Qur'an. These are all misconceptions made by people. Give me one error at a time and i will answer them ALL for you.

Todays society is acting brainwashed.

I've read through it for years, I posted the quickest easiest link to some of the nonsense claimed in the book
Islam is an Abrahamic faith, it is based on faith . . . nothing concrete, it is a subjective experience and I personally do not agree with most of the tenets held by the faith

 

[ak.yonathan]

I mean . . . look at all misinformation!
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Scientific_Errors_in_the_Quran

I don't think you should be getting your information from WikiIslam. It has been debunked as an anti-Islamic website.

 

[Jabar]

I've read through it for years, I posted the quickest easiest link to some of the nonsense claimed in the book
Islam is an Abrahamic faith, it is based on faith . . . nothing concrete, it is a subjective experience and I personally do not agree with most of the tenets held by the faith

Of course Islam is based on faith. Because that faith is the truth. The link is filled with Islamic haters who make misconceptions.

 

[EtuMalku]

I don't think you should be getting your information from WikiIslam. It has been debunked as an anti-Islamic website.

It doesn't matter, the information is clear . . . the fallacies are real, there is a lot of scientific misinformation from the Quran, it cannot be the word of an omniscient / omnipotent god, it is clearly the propaganda of yet another Abrahamic faith

 

[EtuMalku]

Of course Islam is based on faith. Because that faith is the truth. The link is filled with Islamic haters who make misconceptions.

I guess you are ignorant to the definitions of Faith and Truth . . .

 

[Jabar]

I guess you are ignorant to the definitions of Faith and Truth . . .

I have faith because of truth.

 

[Jabar]

It doesn't matter, the information is clear . . . the fallacies are real, there is a lot of scientific misinformation from the Quran, it cannot be the word of an omniscient / omnipotent god, it is clearly the propaganda of yet another Abrahamic faith

They are not fallacies. Give me one fallacy and scientific error.

 

[EtuMalku]

I have faith because of truth.

I rest my case . . . and you fail miserably in trying to prove your religion as the OP requested

 

[Jabar]

I rest my case . . . and you fail miserably in trying to prove your religion as the OP requested

I think you are failing. You give me a ant-Islamic website, and i just told you those are not errors. Point out one error yourself that best suits you and i will prove to you they are not errors but misconceptions.

 

[EtuMalku]

They are not fallacies. Give me one fallacy.

Are you aware that in pre-Islamic Arabia Allah was simply a Moon deity among many many other deities (360 to be exact) that Islam is obviously based on, and came after, the prior Abrahamic religions (faiths), borrowing from both of them. When it came to religion, the Arabs before Islam were fiercely polytheistic. Prophet Ibrahim (Abraham) and his son Ismail (Ishmael) had introduced monotheism to the Arabs and built the Ka’bah, probably around 1800 B.C. Over the centuries, however, the Arabs distorted his message of monotheism and introduced numerous lesser gods, represented by idols. Ironically, they still accepted the ultimate authority of Allah, but believed that lesser gods shared in His power. The Ka’bah had transformed from a mosque intended to worship the One God, to a temple for over 360 idols that the Arab tribes venerated.

Furthermore, historical sources prove that there were several different texts circulating in Syria, Iraq and Armenia prior to the final revision produced by Uthman. Zaid, Muhammad’s long-time secretary, was called in by Uthman to oversee the final and definitive authorized version of the Qur’an. All other copies of the Qur’an were then burned so that there could be no challenge to the authorized text. This is a common practice for the Abrahamic faiths.

In Surah 20:85-88, 95 we read:

“He [Allah] said, ‘We have tempted thy people since thou didist leave them. The Samaratin has led them into error.’ Then Moses returned…and we cast them [(gold) ornaments], as the Samaritan also threw them, into the fire.’ (Then he brought out for them a Calf, a mere body that lowed; and they said, ‘This is your god, and the god of Moses, whom he has forgotten.’)…Moses said, ‘And thou, Samaritan, what was thy business?’”

Now, let us consider this for just a moment. How can a Samaritan have led the Israelites astray at the time of Moses (approx 1400 B.C.) when the city of Samaria was founded by King Omri about 870 B.C.? The Samaritans did not exist until after the exile of the Northern Kingdom of Israel and the resettlement of the area under King Sargon II in 722 B.C. with non-Israelites who then adopted a syncretism (mixture) between the religion of the Jews and their own polytheistic background. The Samaritans did not exist until 530 years after Moses. By this mistake alone, the Qur’an can be rendered unreliable and certainly not an inerrant work of God.

However, this thread is about YOU proving your religion, not ME disproving it

 

[anonymous9887]

Please try to prove to me your religion is true.

What kind of evidence do you require?

 

[Jabar]

Are you aware that in pre-Islamic Arabia Allah was simply a Moon deity among many many other deities (360 to be exact) that Islam is obviously based on, and came after, the prior Abrahamic religions (faiths), borrowing from both of them. When it came to religion, the Arabs before Islam were fiercely polytheistic. Prophet Ibrahim (Abraham) and his son Ismail (Ishmael) had introduced monotheism to the Arabs and built the Ka’bah, probably around 1800 B.C. Over the centuries, however, the Arabs distorted his message of monotheism and introduced numerous lesser gods, represented by idols. Ironically, they still accepted the ultimate authority of Allah, but believed that lesser gods shared in His power. The Ka’bah had transformed from a mosque intended to worship the One God, to a temple for over 360 idols that the Arab tribes venerated.

However, this thread is about YOU proving your religion, not ME disproving it

What are you saying? Yes, there were disbelievers who believed in the wrong things. Islam was there since time immemorial, when man set foot on earth. Islam has changed throughout time as prophets came. People came to the Ka'bah to worship idols and then the idols were thrown out of there. You are talking about disbelievers.

You make false accusations and say it is borrowed. Nowhere it is borrowed. You say it is about me proving it right, then why do you bring false anti-Islamic sites to try and disprove the Qur'an.


Come on, face it you're wrong.

 

[anonymous9887]

What are you saying? Yes, there were disbelievers who believed in the wrong things. Islam was there since time immemorial, when man set foot on earth. Islam has changed throughout time as prophets came. People came to the Ka'bah to worship idols and then the idols were thrown out of there. You are talking about disbelievers.

You make false accusations and say it is borrowed. Nowhere it is borrowed.

Actually the quran borrows from the apocrypha. These are scriptures that were written well after christ death. So if we obtained these stories after christ death or what you believe his ascension to heaven, how can those books be inspired? A man wrote the apocrypha after christ death.

 

[EtuMalku]

What are you saying? Yes, there were disbelievers who believed in the wrong things. Islam was there since time immemorial, when man set foot on earth. Islam has changed throughout time as prophets came. People came to the Ka'bah to worship idols and then the idols were thrown out of there. You are talking about disbelievers.

You make false accusations and say it is borrowed. Nowhere it is borrowed.

Of course it is . . . the monotheistic concept was first developed by Judaism, then Christianity, and finally Islam. The coming of Islam takes place in the 7th century AD.