Try to prove to me your religion.

[Taylor Seraphim]

I gave you my answer. I know you consider Buddhism as a philosophy; and, I see it as a religion. I don't explain mind as consciousness and I dont use metaphysical words. I am very simple. I dont even use the word science. All is natural. Religion doesn't need to be overly complicated, with deities, supernatural, and UFOs for it to be a religion and for it to be qualified for me to prove it true no matter how simple it is.

I was not speaking about the subject of Buddhism being a religion in the quote you used, in fact you did not even address the quote you used.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

?... I never said that you should, hence, why it's important that the faith (or philosophy) you take to doesn't hinder your ability to assimilate and apply worldly knowledge. No religion holds a total monopoly on what is ultimately/cosmically true. For me, I personally feel that a religion that gives you tools that you can use to better and more easily find any truth you seek is more important than just following a prescribed dogma that claims to be THE truth.

Ok, so you are saying that truth is subjective?

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

Because it is the simplest explanation for what I perceive as being objectively real. By objectively real I mean what exists regardless of what we believe. Some things have a subjective reality, those are abstract things. But God is darned near to being one of those things.
Deism is barely distinguishable from agnostic atheism.
Tom

Ok if you agree with the idea that something can be eternal. Then why do you choose to believe that energy (which we have never seen be created or destroyed) is not eternal and a being you have no evidence exists is eternal?

 

[savagewind]

Ok since you are claiming that independent sources do verify the bible find me sources that on Calvary the dead walked like it says in the bible, surely the highly organized and literate Roman and Jewish cultures would have recorded that right?

Yes, I know. I am definitely never siding with them who view men's accounts as good as God.

 

[FearGod]

Please try to prove to me your religion is true.

Facts about nature in the holy quran.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

Karma is not magic. It doesn't save you from death because you do good things. The Law of the Buddha is one the Law of Causation: cause and affect: life and death. The Buddha taught so we can be comfortable with both life and death.

My grandmother passed away two years ago. She had a terminal illness and I never got to speak with her. My other grandmother passed away of AIDs. I live in a building where people pass away every two to three months. All of them are Christians. I believe whatever good karma (actions) they have done help them be at peace when they die or after they die. Their karma will continue on until they reach full understanding of the nature of life just as the Buddha. It's not magic or supernatural. Our goal is to find the nature of life or live life however we can in a healthy manner whether we have a religion or not.

The goal of Buddhism is not to prevent death. It's one of many to be comfortable with death and live life by peaceful practices.

I was not complaining about the death.

If you read what I posted I was complaining about the life that was terrible up until death.

Please read my post before quoting it.

 

[Ralphg]

Ok since you are claiming that independent sources do verify the bible find me sources that on Calvary the dead walked like it says in the bible, surely the highly organized and literate Roman and Jewish cultures would have recorded that right?

Haven't read the entire thread yet but this has been recorded and kinda proven (by Jesus' resurrection):
Calvary, also Golgotha /ˈɡɒlɡəθə/, was, according to the Gospels, a site immediately outside Jerusalem's walls where Jesus was crucified.[1] Golgotha(s) (Γολγοθάς) is the Greek transcription in the New Testament of an Aramaic term that has traditionally been presumed to be Gûlgaltâ (but see below for an alternative). The Bible translates the term to mean place of [the] skull, which in Greek is Κρανίου Τόπος (Kraníou Tópos), and in Latin is Calvariæ Locus, from which the English word Calvary is derived.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

I was not speaking about the subject of Buddhism being a religion in the quote you used, in fact you did not even address the quote you used.

Which quote?

I'm just saying, I gave you my answer. You were saying it was not right because it's scientific. I said my religion is not based on belief it is based on facts. It is true. You considered Buddhism a philosophy and not a religion. I disagree, though I don't see how that relates.

Unless you want to hear from people who believe in supernatural religions?

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

Yes, I know. I am definitely never siding with them who view men's accounts as good as God.

The bible was written from a man's account.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

Facts about nature in the holy quran.

There are facts about nature in a biology textbook.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

Haven't read the entire thread yet but this has kinda been recorded:
Calvary, also Golgotha /ˈɡɒlɡəθə/, was, according to the Gospels, a site immediately outside Jerusalem's walls where Jesus was crucified.[1] Golgotha(s) (Γολγοθάς) is the Greek transcription in the New Testament of an Aramaic term that has traditionally been presumed to be Gûlgaltâ (but see below for an alternative). The Bible translates the term to mean place of [the] skull, which in Greek is Κρανίου Τόπος (Kraníou Tópos), and in Latin is Calvariæ Locus, from which the English word Calvary is derived.

This has nothing to do with the dead walking.

 

[savagewind]

The bible was written from a man's account.

Yes. That is what I have said.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

I was not complaining about the death.

If you read what I posted I was complaining about the life that was terrible up until death.

Please read my post before quoting it.

I was explaining what the Buddha taught about life and death. It had nothing to do with the reasons behind your statement (complaint, whatever). I gave an example and shared my point.

There is nothing behind what I'm saying. I just confused on what people of what religions you want to prove their faith to you. If it's not all faiths, specify who you are refering to.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

Which quote?

I'm just saying, I gave you my answer. You were saying it was not right because it's scientific. I said my religion is not based on belief it is based on facts. It is true. You considered Buddhism a philosophy and not a religion. I disagree, though I don't see how that relates.

Unless you want to hear from people who believe in supernatural religions?

I was saying tha Buddhism is not based on facts and is not scientific.

Prove to me that Karma occurs?

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

Yes. That is what I have said.

Could a man have lied when writing it?

 

[savagewind]

Could a man have lied when writing it?

Yes. Why not? I am certain that men have lied translating it.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

I was explaining what the Buddha taught about life and death. It had nothing to do with the reasons behind your statement (complaint, whatever). I gave an example and shared my point.

There is nothing behind what I'm saying. I just confused on what people of what religions you want to prove their faith to you. If it's not all faiths, specify who you are refering to.

It is all religions.

But you must provide evidence for me to believe it.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

Yes. Why not?

Then how d you know anything in the bible is truthful?

 

[savagewind]

Then how d you know anything in the bible is truthful?

I just get a feeling that some things are good for goodness sakes.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

I was saying tha Buddhism is not based on facts and is not scientific.

Prove to me that Karma occurs?

It is based on facts. Karma means actions. It isn't magic. Say you do something like giving without expectations. What will you receive in return (what effect does that create) a smile? A thank you? Maybe you are aware of better relations throughout your day. It makes you see things clearly by the deeds you consider good. It affects you psychologically (by the mind). It's scientific, if you like.

Karma is the affect from the causes you make. It is nothing special.