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Trying to understand disbelief

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
The skill of discussion and persuasion are useful and such forums provide good practice.
Also it is a place to express my thoughts and get feedback on them.

Why religions forums is because of personal interest in "truth" and occasionally I come across a truth that I was not aware of before. I am thankful to everyone here in assisting me with this.
 

FunctionalAtheist

Hammer of Reason
Let me simplify my question then.

Why would a disbeliever study religion?
My study of religion was very cathartic. I embraced it and lived it as i understood it. The more study, the more thought, the more realization that things don't add up.

I'm not here to study religion. I am well past that for the most part. I'm connected to anyone that truly questions their relgion and expects understanding. Someone that takes each answer, not as a resolution, but as the next question, until everything is clear.

No religion answers all the questions. They claim to, but in fact they tell questioners to shut up or go away. When one has run out of questions and gives up suppostions, one finds themselves an athiest.

Athiesm is the ultimate end of a long honest search for god.

That is why many athiests understand religion better than believers.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Let me simplify my question then.

Why would a disbeliever study religion?
I find human beings endlessly fascinating. Religious beliefs are one of the most curious traits that humans exhibit.

From human history to biology to behavior to bodies to beliefs, the list of interesting facets of the human situation is nearly endless.

Religion is a particularly clear window into the human psyche because it is generally the set of beliefs human beings hold because they prefer to live in a world where the beliefs are true, as opposed to beliefs held because the empirical evidence is compelling.

It isn't always WHAT people believe as WHY they believe it that is enlightening. To learn about that you must communicate with religious people, not read about what their leaders and scriptures say that they should believe. Internet forums are of unmatched value in that regard.

Tom
 

Gjallarhorn

N'yog-Sothep
Religion to me is ethics (which is fun) and storytelling (which is also fun). Both of these concepts are amazing even from the outside. It's just the urge to latch onto one that's less appealing.
 

BigRed

Member
Let me simplify my question then.

Why would a disbeliever study religion?

From my experience, most non-believers were formerly religious but saw the problems in the Scriptures and are now trying to help others to see what they see.

Know the Truth and the Truth Shall set you Free.
BigRed
 

ametist

Active Member
Let me simplify my question then.

Why would a disbeliever study religion?

I dont think there are many disbelievers who study religion but only that those who study religion show up more in similar forums.

All the reason people have extra information that has no practical usage serves to one end that is the power of having information. Thats one reason. They just like themselves better that way. which is fine because many religious do the same to religious information as well.

The other reason can be perceived humanitarian in a way. They usually come from a strict religious background, feel themselves relieved after their giving up on religion and want others to feel that way, too. But this is a false belief to think you can help each and every believer that way since it is destined to be a hunger that can never be fulfilled. You cant help everyone on earth through your calling and this is never your duty unless you received a call from god directly to do so :D


The main reason, the religion and their connection to god is always there. It is an endless search that remains there untill it is begun to be fulfilled the right way. It is everywhere they look.They just want to deny it by fighting with others through their knowledge. the more they feel beaten the more they want to learn, the more they win the more they want to learn. They spend their all lives learning about the religion like a priest but not for the main purpose which is fine also because most religious people do the same,too.

So when they die eventually most priests will have a lot to talk with atheists in heaven. :)
 
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SpeaksForTheTrees

Well-Known Member
Let me simplify my question then.

Why would a disbeliever study religion?

They wouldn't ? Not a reliable one .
Disbelief is 100 % sure (Atheism )? Anything less is an element of doubt .
Disbelieving is a religious crime ? I don't think belief is a requirement should God exist .
A disbeliever that makes the grade , would be an asset to heaven ?
My church is St Thomas C of E , point is Thomas was the doubter , my old re teacher explained it as , Thomas loved Jesus more than the other disciples , overcome by emotion he simply didn't believe it was Jesus .
Atheism is an absolute statement ? Or percentage wise , at what point does doubt flip to disbelief .
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
As a Christian I share the atheist disdain of religion. It may do some good but it has inspired far more evil than good.

For the record - and I don't think I'm all that unusual on this matter - I do not have disdain of religion. Quite on the contrary, I value it greatly and wish it took a bit better care of itself.

Religion is not only unavoidable, but also probably necessary. But that does not mean that we should uncritically accept anything that claims to be religious.
 

nazz

Doubting Thomas
For the record - and I don't think I'm all that unusual on this matter - I do not have disdain of religion. Quite on the contrary, I value it greatly and wish it took a bit better care of itself.

Religion is not only unavoidable, but also probably necessary. But that does not mean that we should uncritically accept anything that claims to be religious.

Yes, I understand. I did not mean to suggest all atheists felt that way.
 
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