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Twelve year old commits suicide -- because he was taunted for being gay.

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
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A grade 7 student in Shelbyville, Tennessee, took his own life on November 28. He did it because he was constantly being taunted -- for being gay, and for not being religious. Constantly told that he was going to Hell because "Jesus hates you."

And now he's dead. If this is so, then I think it is something that casts a black shadow on religion that needs to be discussed.

There is, however, another really interesting part of this little news item -- I can only find it in the BRITISH PRESS. Nobody in America, it seems, thinks it's important enough to comment on!.

What am I missing about this? Is this a fake story -- as I mentioned, I can find nothing in mainstream press, and I don't want to be accused of spreading misinformation, so any assistance from members would be greatly appreciated.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
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A grade 7 student in Shelbyville, Tennessee, took his own life on November 28. He did it because he was constantly being taunted -- for being gay, and for not being religious. Constantly told that he was going to Hell because "Jesus hates you."

And now he's dead. If this is so, then I think it is something that casts a black shadow on religion that needs to be discussed.

There is, however, another really interesting part of this little news item -- I can only find it in the BRITISH PRESS. Nobody in America, it seems, thinks it's important enough to comment on!.

What am I missing about this? Is this a fake story -- as I mentioned, I can find nothing in mainstream press, and I don't want to be accused of spreading misinformation, so any assistance from members would be greatly appreciated.


I don't know if this helps, it's blocked for my country but the search engine listing makes me think this is what you are looking for

Bedford County parents grieve son bullied before suicide | WKRN News 2
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
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What needs to be discussed? Ignoring whether or not it's fake, just assuming it is real.
What needs to be discussed? The idea that people who claim to be followers of the "Prince of Peace," Christ, could so depart from Christ's instruction to love one another that they could drive a child to suicide.

Isn't that at least a little obvious to you?
 

Brickjectivity

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What am I missing about this? Is this a fake story -- as I mentioned, I can find nothing in mainstream press, and I don't want to be accused of spreading misinformation, so any assistance from members would be greatly appreciated.
The source site WKRN is not responding. Either it is overwhelmed or has some other problem.

I'm not able to find it on CNN, Reuters, pbs.org or Foxnews.
 

Lain

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What needs to be discussed? The idea that people who claim to be followers of the "Prince of Peace," Christ, could so depart from Christ's instruction to love one another that they could drive a child to suicide.

Isn't that at least a little obvious to you?

I just fail to understand how people who are or claim to be Christians violating the Commandments of Christ "casts a black shadow" (not sure what that means) or is something that needs to be discussed (with sounded to me like it was urgent). Even the Lord Jesus talked about it and His own Apostles violated the Commandment against Him of all people. It's been a pretty consistent phenomena for the entire history of the world since the Incarnation in my opinion.

What about the idea do you find interesting?
 

Rival

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I just fail to understand how people who are or claim to be Christians violating the Commandments of Christ "casts a black shadow" (not sure what that means) or is something that needs to be discussed (with sounded to me like it was urgent). Even the Lord Jesus talked about it and His own Apostles violated the Commandment against Him of all people. It's been a pretty consistent phenomena for the entire history of the world since the Incarnation in my opinion.

What about the idea do you find interesting?
A 12 year old boy killed himself because he was being bullied by religious people who claim their God is 'love'.

That's news because it's horrific.
 

Lain

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A 12 year old boy killed himself because he was being bullied by religious people who claim their God is 'love'.

That's news because it's horrific.

I didn't dispute that it was newsworthy.
 
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Saint Frankenstein

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A grade 7 student in Shelbyville, Tennessee, took his own life on November 28. He did it because he was constantly being taunted -- for being gay, and for not being religious. Constantly told that he was going to Hell because "Jesus hates you."

And now he's dead. If this is so, then I think it is something that casts a black shadow on religion that needs to be discussed.

There is, however, another really interesting part of this little news item -- I can only find it in the BRITISH PRESS. Nobody in America, it seems, thinks it's important enough to comment on!.

What am I missing about this? Is this a fake story -- as I mentioned, I can find nothing in mainstream press, and I don't want to be accused of spreading misinformation, so any assistance from members would be greatly appreciated.
That's so horrible. :( Surely those people who did that to him will burn in hell unless they repent. It's not like Jesus is going to be happy with them, according to his teachings in the gospels.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
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If that’s not a sad indictment, I don’t know what is
Bear in mind that this is a foreigner
claiming it'
A grade 7 student in Shelbyville, Tennessee, took his own life on November 28. He did it because he was constantly being taunted -- for being gay, and for not being religious. Constantly told that he was going to Hell because "Jesus hates you."

And now he's dead. If this is so, then I think it is something that casts a black shadow on religion that needs to be discussed.

There is, however, another really interesting part of this little news item -- I can only find it in the BRITISH PRESS. Nobody in America, it seems, thinks it's important enough to comment on!.

What am I missing about this? Is this a fake story -- as I mentioned, I can find nothing in mainstream press, and I don't want to be accused of spreading misinformation, so any assistance from members would be greatly appreciated.
I searched.
It's all over domestic news.
 

Kenny

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A grade 7 student in Shelbyville, Tennessee, took his own life on November 28. He did it because he was constantly being taunted -- for being gay, and for not being religious. Constantly told that he was going to Hell because "Jesus hates you."

And now he's dead. If this is so, then I think it is something that casts a black shadow on religion that needs to be discussed.

There is, however, another really interesting part of this little news item -- I can only find it in the BRITISH PRESS. Nobody in America, it seems, thinks it's important enough to comment on!.

What am I missing about this? Is this a fake story -- as I mentioned, I can find nothing in mainstream press, and I don't want to be accused of spreading misinformation, so any assistance from members would be greatly appreciated.

Bullying is horrible in any form or fashion and for any reason. Taunting and saying "you are going to hell" is an ugly religious message and an anti-Jesus message.. I did find it here:

12-old-dies-suicide-being-152558778.html and elsewhere

Certainly, young people and children seem prone to bullying people because of names, height, physical abnormalities or size.

weight - Ashlynn Conner, 10, Allegedly Commits Suicide Because of Bullying
height - Friends: 15-year-old Connecticut boy who committed suicide was bullied | CNN
autism - Izzy Tichenor: 10-year-old Black Utah student dies by suicide weeks after DOJ report - CNN

Likewise, any type of killing or bullying towards any aspect of life is wrong and dangerous.

The Chapel Hill shooting: White male atheist murders three Muslim students
 
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We Never Know

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A grade 7 student in Shelbyville, Tennessee, took his own life on November 28. He did it because he was constantly being taunted -- for being gay, and for not being religious. Constantly told that he was going to Hell because "Jesus hates you."

And now he's dead. If this is so, then I think it is something that casts a black shadow on religion that needs to be discussed.

There is, however, another really interesting part of this little news item -- I can only find it in the BRITISH PRESS. Nobody in America, it seems, thinks it's important enough to comment on!.

What am I missing about this? Is this a fake story -- as I mentioned, I can find nothing in mainstream press, and I don't want to be accused of spreading misinformation, so any assistance from members would be greatly appreciated.


Its sad that this happened but I don't think we are getting the full story. In ny opinion there is more to it than "gay child kills himself because of religious bullying".

-He was teased about wearing the same clothes everyday, probably teased by even non-religious.
-He painted his fingernails pink(is that more trans than gay?) and was probably teased by even non-religious.
-If you aren't religious you won't care about hell.
-He is 12 years old..he was probably confused. How does a 12 year old know if he is gay, straight, trans,,?
-How did he commit suicide? Was it by something his parents left laying around?
Etc etc.

To blame it on him being being gay and teased by the religious saying you're going to hell, in my opinion isn't the full story.
 
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