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Let's discover the truth about the Two Disappearances of the Qaim.
When, where and how long His disappearances are?
The first thing is, to see what Hadithes say about that. After that, we also analyzed it logically.
It is recorded in Bihar, vol. 51-53:
Abu Basir said to Abu Abdullah Imam Sadiq (a.s.) that Abu Ja’far, Baqir (a.s.) often said: “The Qaim of Muhammad’s progeny will disappear twice; one will be longer than the other.”
He said: “Yes, but that will not be until the army of the tribe of so and so disagrees, life becomes so difficult, the Sufyani rises, distresses and calamities increase and death and killing spread among people until they resort to the sanctum of Allah and the sanctum of the Prophet.
Therefore, the disappearance of Qaim is after His rise, because as the Hadith says, His disappearance is after rise of Sufyani, and Qaim and Sufyani rise in the same year:
It is narrated by Muhammad bin Muslim that Imam Baqir (as) said: “The rising of as-Sufyani and the rising of the Qaim will be in the same year.”
As regards to duration of His disappearance, in a long Hadith, recorded in Bihar, that al-Asbagh ibn Nubata asks Imam Ali:
O Amir al-Mu’minin (a.s.), how long will be
the duration of confusion and the disappearance?" He said, "Six days or six months or six years."
Now, how is the story of mainstream Shia, compatible with these Hadithes?
Mainstream Shia believes the Qaim disappeared twice already before He even rises. The duration of short and long disappearances in their stores in not Six months or Six years.
The story of mainstream Shia, is in disagreement with many other Hadithes as well, which I will gradually point them out in this thread.
When, where and how long His disappearances are?
The first thing is, to see what Hadithes say about that. After that, we also analyzed it logically.
It is recorded in Bihar, vol. 51-53:
Abu Basir said to Abu Abdullah Imam Sadiq (a.s.) that Abu Ja’far, Baqir (a.s.) often said: “The Qaim of Muhammad’s progeny will disappear twice; one will be longer than the other.”
He said: “Yes, but that will not be until the army of the tribe of so and so disagrees, life becomes so difficult, the Sufyani rises, distresses and calamities increase and death and killing spread among people until they resort to the sanctum of Allah and the sanctum of the Prophet.
Therefore, the disappearance of Qaim is after His rise, because as the Hadith says, His disappearance is after rise of Sufyani, and Qaim and Sufyani rise in the same year:
It is narrated by Muhammad bin Muslim that Imam Baqir (as) said: “The rising of as-Sufyani and the rising of the Qaim will be in the same year.”
As regards to duration of His disappearance, in a long Hadith, recorded in Bihar, that al-Asbagh ibn Nubata asks Imam Ali:
O Amir al-Mu’minin (a.s.), how long will be
the duration of confusion and the disappearance?" He said, "Six days or six months or six years."
Now, how is the story of mainstream Shia, compatible with these Hadithes?
Mainstream Shia believes the Qaim disappeared twice already before He even rises. The duration of short and long disappearances in their stores in not Six months or Six years.
The story of mainstream Shia, is in disagreement with many other Hadithes as well, which I will gradually point them out in this thread.