U.S. Atheists Know More About Religion Than U.S. Christians

[Skwim]

What good there is in atheism that can't be reached without it???

Returning a question is a child's tactic that avoids answering the original. So how about answering the original question?

"what good is there in religion that can't be achieved without religion?"​

 

[QuestioningMind]

Why do atheists know more about religion then the actual religious? It makes more sense that the practitioner of a said religion would know more about it then an atheist. You learn more by hands on experience anyhow.

But also, why do atheists spend so much time learning religion in order to bash it IF they are so sure its all wrong?

In that case, why dont they go spend there time enjoying there ONLY ONE LIFE they got. Why do they WASTE so much time studying religion?

Because many theist don't actually read their religious texts, they simply allow others to tell them what they are supposed to believe and never questions what's actually in the books. Atheists, on the other hand, care about whether or not a religion's claims are actually true, so they take the time to look at the evidence each religion is presenting in order to make that determination.

 

[Skwim]

I wasn't there with you. But neither were you with me.

Didn't need to be. Admitting you're a Lutheran is good enough evidence that you were told to believe things.

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[Anthem]

Returning a question is a child's tactic that avoids answering the original. So how about answering the original question?

"what good is there in religion that can't be achieved without religion?"​

There is no answer to either of those.

 

[Anthem]

Didn't need to be. Admitting you're a Lutheran is good enough evidence that you were told to believe things.

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Lol, in church, Nope.

 

[Skwim]

There is no answer to either of those.

Yet you thought it was rational to ask:

"What good there is in atheism that can't be reached without it?"​

Gotta say, Anthem, you're batting about zero today.

 

[Miracle]

Yeah, it doesn't take much to know more than the average Christian.

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No, I'm actually very curious. I don't agree with you and I am very sure I won't agree with the video. But I just want to know how long so I can figure out if I want to watch it or not.

Thanks!

 

[Dan From Smithville]

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Anyone surprised?

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This is consistent with my experience in discussing religion with atheist, agnostic and religious people. In following up on a number of points, I have found that atheists and agnostics are generally much more knowledgeable about the Bible and other religions than Christians.

 

[Skwim]

No, I'm actually very curious. I don't agree with you and I am very sure I won't agree with the video. But I just want to know how long so I can figure out if I want to watch it or not.

Thanks!

It's six minutes-twenty seconds long.

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[Miracle]

Why do you WASTE so much time on Religious Forums?

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Nah, he has a good point there. The Jellybear guy on the 1st page.

 

[lukethethird]

Not very surprising, to be honest.
The majority of Christians in America seem to place a greater emphasis on complaining about their "prosecution" and forcing their regressive agenda on people than actually doing what Jesus supposedly taught.

It's persecution, so get it right, and we don't complain about it, we relish in it.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

It's persecution, so get it right, and we don't complain about it, we relish in it.

When did presenting facts and the legitimate results of research become persecution?

 

[Miracle]

It's six minutes-twenty seconds long.

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Thank you!

 

[Skwim]

This is consistent with my experience in discussing religion with atheist, agnostic and religious people. In following up on a number of points, I have found that atheists and agnostics are generally much more knowledgeable about the Bible and other religions than Christians.

Myself as well. Having received most of what they know from the pulpit I think most have no desire or reason to look into their Bible. And as for other religions, informing themselves of them is no doubt seen as a waste of time. But so be it. That they're happy living in relative ignorance is fine with me, as long as they don't try forcing it on others.

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[George-ananda]

Returning a question is a child's tactic that avoids answering the original. So how about answering the original question?

"what good is there in religion that can't be achieved without religion?"​

Well, I clicked on this new thread and it's at page 8.

My thoughts in the generalist way is that atheists are generally more intelligent and educated than theists but eastern/New Age types are smarter and more than atheists.

Since somehow I was taken to page 8 first, I will give my answer to the above question.

An understanding of eternal life and life beyond the physical, Now, science might get this someday and be in agreement with good religion but before then we need good religion.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Returning a question is a child's tactic that avoids answering the original. So how about answering the original question?

"what good is there in religion that can't be achieved without religion?"​

There is no answer to either of those.

That should seem to mean, @Anthem, that there is therefore no need of religion, except perhaps habit.

So then we come to another question: is there anything about religion which might in fact be harmful? For example, without a requirement to believe something "religiously," there could be no such thing as heresy, and therefore no need to punish those who don't believe as required. And religions have been very robust throughout history in punishing those that don't, including with gruesome death, for example by burning, or with such things as excommunication or disfellowshipping, which can cause enormous social harm.

As an atheist, I've never even thought about punishing those that believe in gods. I have a wealth of history to show me that many god believers have certainly thought about punishing nonbelievers, and gone on and done it!

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Myself as well. Having received most of what they know from the pulpit I think most have no desire or reason to look into their Bible. And as for other religions, informing themselves of them is no doubt seen as a waste of time. But so be it. That they're happy living in relative ignorance is fine with me, as long as they don't try forcing it on others.

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I find most atheists and agnostics are not only more literate on the Bible, but they tend to be much more open and willing to discuss the Bible rationally. Coupled with either not believing in or with having doubts about the events described in the Bible--they are not prone to being overly defensive about questions. It makes for meaningful and educational discussions that don't turn into fights.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

The baby is the consistent tenents in all religion. A soul, a afterlife, a God. Theres evidence for those things (no im not going into the evidence on this thread).

I don't doubt you believe this, but I've found no reason to believe that any of these things are real.

Just because theres false, evil, bad stuff in religion does not mean theres no truth in any of it.

You're right; those are separate conclusions. I believe that religion is fabricated by people, but not because there's evil in it; I believe it's fabricated because it has the earmarks of being fabricated.

By rejecting religion period, you reject a piece of reality.

Not reality; just your beliefs about reality. And other religious people's beliefs about reality that conflict with your beliefs.

 

[LuisDantas]

What good there is in atheism that can't be reached without it???

Intellectual and spiritual honesty, for one.

 

[Jollybear]

Because many theist don't actually read their religious texts, they simply allow others to tell them what they are supposed to believe and never questions what's actually in the books. Atheists, on the other hand, care about whether or not a religion's claims are actually true, so they take the time to look at the evidence each religion is presenting in order to make that determination.

Many? As in most or half?