U.S. Atheists Know More About Religion Than U.S. Christians

[Jollybear]

I only need to show the blatant dishonesty in other articles. You do not seem to realize what it takes to be a reliable source.

You do not seem to realize what it takes to live up to the claim to be rational.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Yeah sure they do, Atheist could only wish.

Alot of Christians haven't a clue or idea about the bible. Most of what they do know is only told to them by their Pastor's.
So it wouldn't be hard for an Atheist to confuse alot of Christians.

And self educated Christians tend to be even worse.

 

[Subduction Zone]

You do not seem to realize what it takes to live up to the claim to be rational.

You really should try to avoid such posts. I know that part of you wants to reason rationally, but cognitive dissonance raises its head far too often when your beliefs are threatened.

 

[David T]

Why do atheists know more about religion then the actual religious? It makes more sense that the practitioner of a said religion would know more about it then an atheist. You learn more by hands on experience anyhow.

But also, why do atheists spend so much time learning religion in order to bash it IF they are so sure its all wrong?

In that case, why dont they go spend there time enjoying there ONLY ONE LIFE they got. Why do they WASTE so much time studying religion?

There is no such thing as an atheist outside of church.

 

[David T]

And self educated Christians tend to be even worse.

Like bigfoot experts!!!!

 

[David T]

So, you imagined and accepted the concept of God requiring a blood sacrifice in order to bring cleanliness to your soul before entering into his Kingdom purely on your own?

Starts to sound like a parroted meme rather than anything they have become aware of at some point dies it not? . Although atheism is not exempt from that.

 

[David T]

I find when it comes to religions outside Christianity, atheists and Christians are about the same level of knowledge.

Its like the irish and the protestant catholic conflict!

 

[Holdasown]

Are you standing in for all of religion?

The topic is all religion. I am in one. I am standing for mine. What is your problem?

 

[Holdasown]

What baby?

Seriously - what good is there in religion that can't be achieved without religion?

Why do you have to dictate what people do and don't do with their own lives?

 

[Holdasown]

Returning a question is a child's tactic that avoids answering the original. So how about answering the original question?

"what good is there in religion that can't be achieved without religion?"​

Religion is about interaction and worship of god/gods. What good are you referring to?

 

[BilliardsBall]

Ah, vocal Christians such as yourself are the last ones who should be talking about obsession.

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Well, we will be.

 

[BilliardsBall]

Apparently most of us haven't got that memo.

I think, rather, that many atheists on religious forums ignored the memo.

 

[icehorse]

The topic is all religion. I am in one. I am standing for mine. What is your problem?

When I say religion does more harm than good, I'm making a statistical claim. correct? Of course sometimes people do good things in the name of religion, but my claim is that most of the good things done in the name of religion are also done without any religious prodding (e.g. charity work), AND there are many bad things done in the name of religion that are clearly inspired by the religion.

 

[Jollybear]

There is no such thing as an atheist outside of church.

All atheists go to church? You lost me?

 

[Holdasown]

When I say religion does more harm than good, I'm making a statistical claim. correct? Of course sometimes people do good things in the name of religion, but my claim is that most of the good things done in the name of religion are also done without any religious prodding (e.g. charity work), AND there are many bad things done in the name of religion that are clearly inspired by the religion.

So charity work done is charity work but bad things done is religion? Why the double standard. Again if all theists are being held to "religion has been bad" even though there is not a being called religion, then why not judge all people on one thing. If I said men are evil because some rape should all me pay for that? Yet this is what atheists do all the time and call themselves enlightened for it.

 

[Jollybear]

You really should try to avoid such posts. I know that part of you wants to reason rationally, but cognitive dissonance raises its head far too often when your beliefs are threatened.

Its not cognitive deissonance, its simply stating that asserting and showing are not the same. Perhaps its you that is then having the cognitive dissonance.

See, its not working.

Thats why just staying focused is more important.

 

[Anthem]

When I say religion does more harm than good, I'm making a statistical claim. correct? Of course sometimes people do good things in the name of religion, but my claim is that most of the good things done in the name of religion are also done without any religious prodding (e.g. charity work), AND there are many bad things done in the name of religion that are clearly inspired by the religion.

Religion has been such a fundamental part of the culture all over the world your claim is impossible to prove or validate on any way.

 

[Jollybear]

I don't doubt you believe this, but I've found no reason to believe that any of these things are real.


You're right; those are separate conclusions. I believe that religion is fabricated by people, but not because there's evil in it; I believe it's fabricated because it has the earmarks of being fabricated.


Not reality; just your beliefs about reality. And other religious people's beliefs about reality that conflict with your beliefs.

Fabricated you say. It has the earmarks of being fabricated.

Do all religious experiences have that earmark?

 

[icehorse]

So charity work done is charity work but bad things done is religion? Why the double standard. Again if all theists are being held to "religion has been bad" even though there is not a being called religion, then why not judge all people on one thing. If I said men are evil because some rape should all me pay for that? Yet this is what atheists do all the time and call themselves enlightened for it.

Sorry for the slight miscommunication. Let me try to paraphrase a famous two-part question asked many times by Christopher Hitchens:

"Can you name a good act done by the religious that isn't also frequently done without religion, and part two, can you name bad acts done in the name of religion."

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Next, the thing you have to keep in mind is that the religious set themselves up for criticism by putting their religion on a pedestal. The religious frequently make extraordinary claims about their religion, and then get miffed when they're questioned. As for atheists claiming enlightenment, I disagree. In my experience atheists are more humble than the religious. We don't pretend to know the answers to important questions that the religious claim to have answers to.

 

[Holdasown]

Sorry for the slight miscommunication. Let me try to paraphrase a famous two-part question asked many times by Christopher Hitchens:

"Can you name a good act done by the religious that isn't also frequently done without religion, and part two, can you name bad acts done in the name of religion."

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Next, the thing you have to keep in mind is that the religious set themselves up for criticism by putting their religion on a pedestal. The religious frequently make extraordinary claims about their religion, and then get miffed when they're questioned. As for atheists claiming enlightenment, I disagree. In my experience atheists are more humble than the religious. We don't pretend to know the answers to important questions that the religious claim to have answers to.

Atheist are not humble. They constantly say they are smarter, kinder, less racist, less abusive. They claim to be better parents and better human beings.