U.S. Imposes Sweeping Human Rights Sanctions on China, Myanmar, and North Korea

[Debater Slayer]

The U.S. has imposed sanctions on North Korea as well as multiple entities and individuals associated with China and Myanmar:

WASHINGTON, Dec 10 (Reuters) - The United States on Friday imposed extensive human rights-related sanctions on dozens of people and entities tied to China, Myanmar, North Korea and Bangladesh, and added Chinese artificial intelligence company SenseTime Group to an investment blacklist.

Canada and the United Kingdom joined the United States in imposing sanctions related to human rights abuses in , while Washington also imposed the first new sanctions on North Korea under President Joe Biden's administration and targeted Myanmar military entities, among others, in action marking Human Rights Day.

"Our actions today, particularly those in partnership with the United Kingdom and Canada, send a message that democracies around the world will act against those who abuse the power of the state to inflict suffering and repression," Deputy Treasury Secretary Wally Adeyemo said in a statement.

China's embassy in Washington denounced the U.S. move as "serious interference in China's internal affairs" and a "severe violation of basic norms governing international relations."

Embassy spokesman Liu Pengyu said it would do "grave harm to China-U.S. relations" and urged Washington to rescind the decision.

The North Korean mission at the United Nations and the Washington embassies of Myanmar and Bangladesh did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

U.S. imposes sweeping human rights sanctions on China, Myanmar and North Korea

Thoughts/comments?

 

[Revoltingest]

My first thought (that wasn't about food) is that our
government ought to cast its keen gaze upon
human rights issues here at home....
- Imprisoning people not convicted of a crime.
- Civil forfeiture abuse.
- Policing that preserves the Bill Of Rights.
- Controlling Black Robe Syndrome (misbehaving judges).
- Ending the War On Drugs.
- Prison reform.
- Ending immunity for illegal acts by officials.

 

[Debater Slayer]

Some of the United States' closest allies such as Saudi Arabia and Israel seem to me to deserve sanctions or at least official condemnation as well, not to mention the United States' own track record of war crimes and human rights violations in other countries.

While I definitely believe there is a strong case to be made for sanctioning China, North Korea, and Myanmar, I think the lack of consistency from the U.S. in its application of sanctions on other countries and in flouting the human rights principles it preaches to other countries at multiple points bespeaks a political rather than humanitarian motivation behind these recent sanctions.

 

[pearl]

Maybe China can have the sanctions removed if it supports a Trump candidacy to a 2nd term.

 

[Laika]

Thoughts/comments?

I invite Joe Biden to take his sanctions and to shove them up his arse.

If Americans want to fight for freedom and democracy, they should shut up and start with their own dam country.

 

[Revoltingest]

I invite Joe Biden to take his sanctions and to shove them up his arse.

If Americans want to fight for freedom and democracy, they should shut up and start with their own dam country.

Twas a tough between <like> & <funny>.

 

[Debater Slayer]

I invite Joe Biden to take his sanctions and to shove them up his arse.

If Americans want to fight for freedom and democracy, they should shut up and start with their own dam country.

Setting aside the problematic history of the U.S. with committing human rights violations, do you think there are solid arguments to support sanctions on China, North Korea, and Myanmar or not?

 

[Aštra’el]

“Rights”

 

[Laika]

Setting aside the problematic history of the U.S. with committing human rights violations, do you think there are solid arguments to support sanctions on China, North Korea, and Myanmar or not?

No. I accept Myanmar and China are probably committing genocide and I’m not unfeeling enough to not want to help. But the international order that could be trusted to deal with that is gone. It went as soon as the mob stormed the Capitol building.

no-one in the international community should take the United States seriously. It is the psych-ward of the western world and has lost any right to decide right from wrong or the use of military force in the world.

America are the nation of terrorists now and they should go sit quietly in the corner and sort out their demons. We don’t need lectures on good governance and democracy from Weimar Germany.

[edit: bottom line is, if the US elects a nutjob in 2024 or in 2028, the international community has to present a united front and tell America very firmly that it can’t be the world police anymore. Dictators, genocides and annexing neighbours are evil, but they leave survivors. Nuclear Wars do not. America has shown such an utter, indiscriminate disregard for human life in its wars, its gun violence and school shootings and in its failure to apply basic medical precautions against COViD that we can’t trust it to evaluate the risks of using nuclear weapons. This is a nation pathologically out of touch with reality and we have to contain the US as a threat to the international community. The risks of indulging the US by carrying on like “business as usual” whilst it is in the midst of a psychotic episode are too high.]

 

[Lain]

The U.S. has imposed sanctions on North Korea as well as multiple entities and individuals associated with China and Myanmar:



U.S. imposes sweeping human rights sanctions on China, Myanmar and North Korea

Thoughts/comments?

Whenever the US tries to act like a moral force for good in the world I find it hilarious and stupid. The US (as a whole) has never been good, most likely never will be good, and just as it is unbecoming for a whore to speak of the virtues of chastity so it is for the US to speak against human rights abuses. I just find this to be funny more than anything.

 

[Revoltingest]

Whenever the US tries to act like a moral force for good in the world I find it hilarious and stupid. The US (as a whole) has never been good, most likely never will be good, and just as it is unbecoming for a whore to speak of the virtues of chastity so it is for the US to speak against human rights abuses. I just find this to be funny more than anything.

Regarding the underlined portion....
Should we have stayed out of WW2?
Even the Limeys & Froggys briefly liked us.

 

[Lain]

Regarding the underlined portion....
Should we have stayed out of WW2?
Even the Limeys & Froggys briefly liked us.

Perhaps it had a just cause but many US military actions (not the least of which were the nukes) were murderous terrorism during that war, so even then I would not say that we were good. Not to mention the racism involved even against certain US soldiers from Americans then. In my opinion at least.

 

[Laika]

Regarding the underlined portion....
Should we have stayed out of WW2?
Even the Limeys & Froggys briefly liked us.

I never thought I would say this but, World War Two is one of the few wars you can plausibly argue America should have actually joined sooner. A US declaration of war against Germany in 1939 or 1940 would have made a difference.

The same goes for Britain and France declaring war in 1938 over Czechoslovakia rather than sticking with appeasement in the Munich agreement. But we only know that with hindsight at a guess.

 

[PureX]

My first thought (that wasn't about food) is that our
government ought to cast its keen gaze upon
human rights issues here at home....

My first thought as well.

 

[Revoltingest]

Perhaps it had a just cause but many US military actions (not the least of which were the nukes) were murderous terrorism during that war, so even then I would not say that we were good. Not to mention the racism involved even against certain US soldiers from Americans then. In my opinion at least.

I agree that too few of our efforts were productive.

 

[Stonetree]

I agree that too few of our efforts were productive.

So the answer is for no one to speak out in support of human rights except here at home?You gentlemen are contradicting yourselves. Speak out then but not now about problems overseas? Productive or not what is the realistic answer to the OP?

 

[Revoltingest]

So the answer is for no one to speak out in support of human rights except here at home.

I see supporting human rights elsewhere as useful.
But I lament our failing, & with deadly consequences so often.

Our inattention to domestic civil rights is troubling.
Note that Biden has been one of the worst offenders,
with his designing & supporting crime bills that put
many thousands more in prison, & enabled abuse
of civil forfeiture.

 

[Stonetree]

These are political stances with moral aspects to them.. I don't know if this is the time for the sanctions..... I quoted REV istan by mistake, my remarks are for all present.

 

[Revoltingest]

These are political stances with moral aspects to them.. I don't know if this is the time for the sanctions..... I quoted REV istan by mistake, my remarks are for all present.

Check my newly edited post to reflect this.

 

[Quetzal]

no-one in the international community should take the United States seriously. It is the psych-ward of the western world and has lost any right to decide right from wrong or the use of military force in the world.

I think for the reasons you outline, the international community needs to the US more seriously than ever.

America are the nation of terrorists now and they should go sit quietly in the corner and sort out their demons...

We are trying... The US is in a strange place right now and the issues we are facing are unprecedented. Please know and understand that most of us that live here are not exactly comfortable with how things are going. Saying we are a nation of terrorists... thats hard not to take personally.