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Ultra Orthodox men can now be drafted in Israel. Thoughts?

David1967

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Ultra Orthodox men can now be drafted in Israel. Thoughts?
 
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dybmh

ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
Ok. May I ask why you have this opinion?

Torah scholars increase the peace. It's a profound truth that the predominantly secular Israeli government ( and other non-religious Jewish critics ) do not acknowledge, because, if they did they would feel compelled to spend the time and effort to do their religious duty. And. They will feel profound guilt for the time that was spent on superficial nonsense.

So, they deny the greatest tool in the toolbox, and interrupt the important work of the bochurim.
 

dybmh

ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
@David1967 ,

Wow, do you remember before the war, Jay and I were arguing about the same exact thing? In your thread?

Deja-vu, all over again :oops:o_O;)
 

Sargonski

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Torah scholars increase the peace. It's a profound truth that the predominantly secular Israeli government ( and other non-religious Jewish critics ) do not acknowledge, because, if they did they would feel compelled to spend the time and effort to do their religious duty. And. They will feel profound guilt for the time that was spent on superficial nonsense.

So, they deny the greatest tool in the toolbox, and interrupt the important work of the bochurim.

Oh .. Oh .. no .. No .. the claim that the ultra orthodox increase the peace is backwards .. upside down.

Like with Islam .. it is the extremists who are the problemo .. the ultra Orthodox (Islamist) extremists. It is the ultra Orthodox and the Zionist factions who have teamed up in the unholy union of theist with atheist .. to bring us Concentration Camp Gaza .. the one's who have been against the peace .. the guiding charter to Cleanse the Land "From the River to the Sea - Israeli Sovereignty" = No two State solution.

The Ultra Extremists are the Israeli Gov't .. and of course are patting themselves on the back every chance they get .. once again you have things upside down .. backwards.
 

Sargonski

Well-Known Member
I didn't say that. Try again.

self delusion -- is exactly what you meant . along with the Ultra Orthodox Scholors. but regardless the truth of the Charter of Ethnic Cleansing does not fade .. you see the thread title right ? not just about the Scholars .. but they are nut jobbers as well .. so your claim preposterously false .. either way .. your perspective of the reality upside down - backwards ..
 

Regiomontanus

Eastern Orthodox
Oh .. Oh .. no .. No .. the claim that the ultra orthodox increase the peace is backwards .. upside down.

Like with Islam .. it is the extremists who are the problemo .. the ultra Orthodox (Islamist) extremists. It is the ultra Orthodox and the Zionist factions who have teamed up in the unholy union of theist with atheist .. to bring us Concentration Camp Gaza .. the one's who have been against the peace .. the guiding charter to Cleanse the Land "From the River to the Sea - Israeli Sovereignty" = No two State solution.

The Ultra Extremists are the Israeli Gov't .. and of course are patting themselves on the back every chance they get .. once again you have things upside down .. backwards.

Yeah, I mean isn't it the far-right in Israel who are the ones pushing the government to continue the terribly destructive attacks in Gaza? Ultimately the war crimes are on Bibi, but my understanding is that he needs their support to stay in office (and hence stay out of jail).
 

Sargonski

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Yeah, I mean isn't it the far-right in Israel who are the ones pushing the government to continue the terribly destructive attacks in Gaza? Ultimately the war crimes are on Bibi, but my understanding is that he needs their support to stay in office (and hence stay out of jail).

definitely he heeds the support of the Zionists and the Ultra Orthodox aka "the Far right" .. aka Likud ..and he has that in spades for the Ethnic Cleansing .. most of the party even more hard line than Bibi .. if one can imagine being more hard line than calling "Amalek" .. to the chanting "From the River to the Sea" .. like the director of an brown shirt Orchestra .. makes Warsaw look soft ..

Today we had footage of the IDF strapping a wouded Palestinian .. after stipping from the grasp of his children .. to the front of a vehicle as a human shield .. the dehumanization .. the war crimes, crimes against humanity .. collective punishment ..

As the Irish Delegation to the UN said "The Hague is too good for Bibi" .. and Genocide Joe should be following closely behind.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Torah scholars increase the peace. It's a profound truth that the predominantly secular Israeli government ( and other non-religious Jewish critics ) do not acknowledge, because, if they did they would feel compelled to spend the time and effort to do their religious duty. And. They will feel profound guilt for the time that was spent on superficial nonsense.

So, they deny the greatest tool in the toolbox, and interrupt the important work of the bochurim.
The news story said that they are not drafting scholars they are drafting the ultra orthodox. If the ultra orthodox are at all like Christian fundamentalists they are the opposite of scholars.

One skill that a scholar needs is the ability to have an open mind and be willing to admit that he may be wrong. I cannot see those young men admitting that they might be wrong.
 

dybmh

ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
The news story said that they are not drafting scholars they are drafting the ultra orthodox

True.

If the ultra orthodox are at all like Christian fundamentalists they are the opposite of scholars.

I'm talking about the bochurim.

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One skill that a scholar needs is the ability to have an open mind and be willing to admit that he may be wrong.

... my friends.

I cannot see those young men admitting that they might be wrong.

... my friends?
 
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