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Understanding the holy scriptures is impossible unless God gives you the interpretation

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
No matter how you look at it then, the list is wrong.
Not at all. The list is mostly right. For example they got Zarathustra just a bit wrong. That religion was one of the first that featured resurrection. Old Zara did not undergo resurrection in that time period, like Christianity it is later. Osiris was resssurected, it was not just in three days. But once again Jesus was not resurrected after three days either.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Not at all. The list is mostly right. For example they got Zarathustra just a bit wrong. That religion was one of the first that featured resurrection. Old Zara did not undergo resurrection in that time period, like Christianity it is later. Osiris was resssurected, it was not just in three days. But once again Jesus was not resurrected after three days either.
The title is wrong. Since the title of the list speaks about resurrected after three days --
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Not at all. The list is mostly right. For example they got Zarathustra just a bit wrong. That religion was one of the first that featured resurrection. Old Zara did not undergo resurrection in that time period, like Christianity it is later. Osiris was resssurected, it was not just in three days. But once again Jesus was not resurrected after three days either.
The list is mostly right about what? That these gods were resurrected? Or resurrected after three days? Which is it in your opinion?
 

Elijah2

Member
I've found it interesting that the entire Bible is founded on whether or not God gave Moses a couple of tablets at Mount Sinai. How long ago was that? How do we know what we have was not altered long ago? Has anyone else here heard about a scroll found in the 1800's that has now been translated - and found to be a 3000 year old account from the days near Ezekiel - and it is quite different? In the ancient account - what Elohim wanted was for man to observe what he was doing - and that the blessings and curses were integral to the 10 decrees. It also matches the teachings of Jesus in Matthew!
 

Sargonski

Well-Known Member
I've found it interesting that the entire Bible is founded on whether or not God gave Moses a couple of tablets at Mount Sinai. How long ago was that? How do we know what we have was not altered long ago? Has anyone else here heard about a scroll found in the 1800's that has now been translated - and found to be a 3000 year old account from the days near Ezekiel - and it is quite different? In the ancient account - what Elohim wanted was for man to observe what he was doing - and that the blessings and curses were integral to the 10 decrees. It also matches the teachings of Jesus in Matthew!

Curious which scroll you are referring to .. Ezekiel is 2500 years back not 3000 but we have writing from 3000 years back and indeed know what these folks believed about the Gods - Elohim .. beliefs and practices that Ezekiel is not happy about.
 

jimb

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I've found it interesting that the entire Bible is founded on whether or not God gave Moses a couple of tablets at Mount Sinai. How long ago was that? How do we know what we have was not altered long ago? Has anyone else here heard about a scroll found in the 1800's that has now been translated - and found to be a 3000 year old account from the days near Ezekiel - and it is quite different? In the ancient account - what Elohim wanted was for man to observe what he was doing - and that the blessings and curses were integral to the 10 decrees. It also matches the teachings of Jesus in Matthew!
If you think that "the entire Bible is founded on whether or not God gave Moses a couple of tablets at Mount Sinai", YOU NEED TO READ IT! Your statement makes no sense.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Curious which scroll you are referring to .. Ezekiel is 2500 years back not 3000 but we have writing from 3000 years back and indeed know what these folks believed about the Gods - Elohim .. beliefs and practices that Ezekiel is not happy about.
What writings from the Bible are 3,000 years old?
 

It Aint Necessarily So

Veteran Member
Premium Member
The article you presented about "gods" who died and were resurrected after 3 days is inaccurate and fallacious. Nothing about any so-called gods that died and were resurrected after three days.
OK. I was answering your question about Christmas falling near the winter solstice. I didn't invent the trope of the god or demigod dying and rising again in three days being symbolized by the sun apparently stopping and reversing direction in three days as days begin growing longer again. You might need to look into those gods listed individually elsewhere. Also, the three days isn't an essential part of the answer as to why the holiday falls when it does.
There was quite a controversy over who or what the nature of God was in the early days after Jesus' resurrection.
OK again. Why did you want to tell me that? You responded to a post about the meaning of autonomous.
Suggesting that someone should go into credit card debt "intelligently", is an oxymoron.
That's not what I suggested. You've changed borrowing from banks into credit card debt. I have generally paid off credit card debt immediately to minimize interest payments. I still do.
You got out of town, thinking you have escaped the lawlessness, and the coming crash, but I am thinking that as you have done for others, so shall be done to you.
That sounds religious.
Relying on your cash is going to wind up as one holding onto sand.
So does that.
Trump repaid his debts, but you would like him to be put in jail.
Yes.
The next time a Mexican policeman stops you, are you going to give him his bribe, or say no?
I'll play it by ear.
 
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Sargonski

Well-Known Member
What writings from the Bible are 3,000 years old?
I didn't think the writings being referred to were from the Bible ? -- the writings I was referring to were from Ugarit . and while some of these writings from 1200-1300 BC (3200 years old) were included in the Bible .. they are not from the Bible.

That said .. there are some who suggest that Psalms -- "hymns sung in church" and the Wisdom literature and Job date from ~ 900 BC ..

I am curious about this scroll that is being referred to... relating to the Jesus of Matt. --- Golden rule perhaps ? ..
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Hi there again, IANS. There was quite a controversy over who or what the nature of God was in the early days after Jesus' resurrection.
. . . and in many diverse conflicting religions and the variations of different churches. To add Judaism rejects all of the above based on their own Hebrew scriptures.
 
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shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
and nothing in the article says anything I could find about 'gods' that died and were resurrected after 3 days. Since Jesus was not a "Roman God" the entire list is off base anyway.
Yjr NT describes Jesus and God the Father as Roman Gods, and Mary as a Roman or Canaanite Goddess.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
If you think that "the entire Bible is founded on whether or not God gave Moses a couple of tablets at Mount Sinai", YOU NEED TO READ IT! Your statement makes no sense.
The entire Bible and the Quran is dependent on the Pentateuch being a literal accurate history.
 
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