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US rabbis warn of ‘irreparable harm’ from new Israeli government

pearl

Well-Known Member
Is this headline worrisome or liberal hype?

More than 300 U.S. rabbis have put their signatures to a letter warning that Israel’s new government under incoming Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu could do “irreparable harm” with extremist policies.
The letter cautions against policy proposals from extreme Jewish nationalist members set to join Netanyahu’s Cabinet and government, calling them “anathema to the tenets of democracy.”
If implemented, the policies “will cause irreparable harm to the Israel-Jewish Diaspora relationship, as they are an affront to the vast majority of American Jews and our values,” the letter reads.


The rabbis argue the policies could erode women’s rights, expel Arab Israelis and override Israeli Supreme Court rulings, among other actions they say could run counter to the country’s values.

Netanyahu is set to return to power as Israel’s prime minister for the third time after pulling together a far-right governing coalition, called the most extreme administration in the country’s history.

The rabbis further pledge in their open letter to protest the hard-right administration by blocking members of the Religious Zionist Party from participating in their congregations and organizations, and call on other clergy members to do the same.

“When those who tout racism and bigotry claim to speak in the name of Israel, but deny our rights, our heritage, and the rights of the most vulnerable among us, we must take action. We must speak out,” the rabbis wrote.

In the Nov. 1 election, Netanyahu and his allies captured a majority of 64 seats in the 120-member Knesset, and he vowed to quickly put together a coalition. But that process turned out to be more complicated than anticipated, in part because his ultra-Orthodox and far-right partners demanded firm guarantees on the scope of their powers.

Before the government is sworn in, Netanyahu will try to push through a series of laws needed to expand Ben-Gvir’s authority over the police and to create a new ministerial position granting Smotrich powers in the West Bank that in the past were held by the defense minister.
Israel’s Netanyahu says he has formed new government | The Hill
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Basically a position paper by Reform branch and liberal elements who are saying "sour grapes" because their political allies are on the outs of the new Israeli coalition government. Too bad many Israel haters will have ammunition from this to attack the State of Israel. That is a shame.
 
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rosends

Well-Known Member
the headline is not helpful and the article tiptoes around some basic information. "some" US rabbis warn of... Many don't. And those "some" seem to be affiliated with particular denominations of Judaism. Other denominations don't (from clergy on down) share the same concern. The article tries to present the 300 or so names as representing the larger community by not including the specifics of their background.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Basically a position paper by Reform branch and liberal elements who are saying "sour grapes" because their political allies are on the outs of the new Israeli coalition government. Too bad many Israel haters will have ammunition from this to attack the State of Israel. That is a shame.

Wrong, it's not just Reform and Reconstructionist but Conservative as well: Hundreds of U.S. rabbis from the Reform, Conservative and Reconstructionist movements are signing an open letter to stop far-right Israeli lawmakers from delivering community speeches https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...munities/00000185-44cc-d30e-afd7-75fc59ad0000

Israel is on a path to become a theocratic state just like Iran. And THAT is the shame.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
the headline is not helpful and the article tiptoes around some basic information. "some" US rabbis warn of... Many don't. And those "some" seem to be affiliated with particular denominations of Judaism. Other denominations don't (from clergy on down) share the same concern. The article tries to present the 300 or so names as representing the larger community by not including the specifics of their background.

The OP did not have the link I found and referenced above:

Among the signatories are current and former members of the boards of rabbis in Chicago and Los Angeles; rabbis who lead the largest Conservative and Reform congregations in the Washington, D.C., area; former leaders of major Reform and Conservative movement bodies; the current leader of the Reconstructionist movement; and the rector of the Los Angeles-based American Jewish University. The letter was organized by David Teutsch, a leading Reconstructionist rabbi in Philadelphia, and John Rosove, the rabbi emeritus of Temple Israel in Los Angeles.
 

rosends

Well-Known Member
The OP did not have the link I found and referenced above:

Among the signatories are current and former members of the boards of rabbis in Chicago and Los Angeles; rabbis who lead the largest Conservative and Reform congregations in the Washington, D.C., area; former leaders of major Reform and Conservative movement bodies; the current leader of the Reconstructionist movement; and the rector of the Los Angeles-based American Jewish University. The letter was organized by David Teutsch, a leading Reconstructionist rabbi in Philadelphia, and John Rosove, the rabbi emeritus of Temple Israel in Los Angeles.
The "Hill" article led me to the letter itself, but that article, referenced in the OP, did not give information about things. So I still find fault with the headline and the linked article.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
The "Hill" article led me to the letter itself, but that article, referenced in the OP, did not give information about things. So I still find fault with the headline and the linked article.
Fair enough.
 

Harel13

Am Yisrael Chai
Staff member
Premium Member
Is this headline worrisome or liberal hype?
Lots of hype. Preemptive panic. For Netanyahu, the most important thing is keeping the status quo and his seat, not policy-changing. He'll make whatever empty promises necessary to remain in power. Let's talk again next election cycle and see if anything significant has actually changed.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Lots of hype. Preemptive panic. For Netanyahu, the most important thing is keeping the status quo and his seat, not policy-changing. He'll make whatever empty promises necessary to remain in power. Let's talk again next election cycle and see if anything significant has actually changed.

A couple of key jobs were given to extreme religious folk. We'll see much sooner than that.
 

Rachel Rugelach

Shalom, y'all.
Staff member
I believe that Conservative/Masorti Judaism (to which I belong) is taking a "wait and see" approach. I asked my rabbi and he directed me to this statement that was released a few days ago by the Rabbinical Assembly, the international association for Conservative/Masorti rabbis:

The Conservative/Masorti movement remains staunchly devoted to Israel as the homeland for the entire Jewish people. We will engage with the new government to advocate for religious pluralism, democratic values, and rights and dignity for all. We commit to challenging hateful and supremacist ideologies, whenever or wherever they manifest.

For the returning Prime Minister, actions speak louder than words. We understand that he has committed to taking responsibility for all major policy decisions of his new government. It is incumbent on all of us to ensure that this new Israeli government treats all people with respect in order to uphold the promise of Israel as set out in Israel’s declaration of independence for generations to come. We wish Benyamin Netanyahu well-being and fortitude as he takes on the challenging responsibility as Israel’s Prime Minister.

We commit to working with the new government to fulfill the vision set out in that founding document, to develop a country ‘for the benefit of all its inhabitants…based on freedom, justice and peace as envisaged by the prophets of Israel…[to] ensure complete equality of social and political rights to all its inhabitants irrespective of religion, race or sex… [and to] guarantee freedom of religion, conscience, language, education and culture.’ These values also underlie Israel’s relationship with world Jewry, a relationship which we hope Prime Minister Netanyahu will continue to strengthen and invest in.


Quoted source: Rabbinical Assembly Acknowledges New Israeli Government
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Basically a position paper by Reform branch and liberal elements who are saying "sour grapes" because their political allies are on the outs of the new Israeli coalition government. Too bad many Israel haters will have ammunition from this to attack the State of Israel. That is a shame.
Gee, what a convenient whitewash of Bibi's legal problems.
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Wrong, it's not just Reform and Reconstructionist but Conservative as well: Hundreds of U.S. rabbis from the Reform, Conservative and Reconstructionist movements are signing an open letter to stop far-right Israeli lawmakers from delivering community speeches https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...munities/00000185-44cc-d30e-afd7-75fc59ad0000

Israel is on a path to become a theocratic state just like Iran. And THAT is the shame.
As I wrote "and liberal elements".
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Gee, what a convenient whitewash of Bibi's legal problems.
Care to be specific about these ersatz legal problems? Remember he and his party just won the election. It appears the Israeli voters don't think there are significant "legal problems".
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Care to be specific about these ersatz legal problems? Remember he and his party just won the election. It appears the Israeli voters don't think there are significant "legal problems".
You are not aware of them? Really???

Bibi's legal troubles worse than Trump's - San Diego Jewish World (sdjewishworld.com)

Bibi’s ‘legal woes’ are a sign of how US dysfunction has infected Israel (nypost.com)

Netanyahu criminal investigations | The Times of Israel

Factbox: 'King Bibi' or 'Crime Minister'? Netanyahu's political and legal troubles | Reuters

Bibi Legal Woes And The ‘Sucker Principle’ - Jewish Telegraphic Agency (jta.org)

It took me less than 10 minutes to look these up and scan them.

Also, the fact that he is still popular with so many says nothing as far as his character is concerned because elections do not decide on guilt nor innocence.
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Old cases from 2017 and 2018 and a case that is headed for dismissal. That's what you're on about. Talk about a nothing burger.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Old cases from 2017 and 2018 and a case that is headed for dismissal. That's what you're on about. Talk about a nothing burger.
But they haven't been dismissed, nor do we know if they ever will be. Why are you being so dishonest, especially since you have repeatedly assumed guilt with the Biden's?

BTW, what are you exactly an educator of?
 

Rachel Rugelach

Shalom, y'all.
Staff member
A couple of key jobs were given to extreme religious folk. We'll see much sooner than that.

I don't know about other key job positions, but I found this news regarding a particularly key job to be encouraging:

Likud’s Amir Ohana becomes Israel’s first openly gay Knesset speaker: Netanyahu loyalist vows parliament won’t infringe on LGBTQ rights as all coalition members in attendance, including those who have expressed homophobic positions, vote him in

"The Knesset Speaker, elected by the plenum together with his deputies, is responsible for conducting the affairs of the Knesset. The Speaker also represents the Knesset externally, preserves its dignity, the decorum of its sittings and the observance of its Rules of Procedure... In the absence of the President of the State from the country, the Speaker acts in his place."

Quoted source: The Role of the Knesset Speaker
 
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