USA - The Good Samaritan

[Alceste]

When did Iraq attack us? I must have been asleep.

 

[Gabethewiking]

We did not retaliate against any nation, but a specific group which claimed responsibility for the attacks/

You do not know much about our foreign policy do you? Do you know about a place called Iraq and afghanistan ? Just asking.

The attack on Pearl Harbor was one step in a series of events that Japan and Germany had planned for domination of the entire world. Until that day we had refrained from getting involved. Were we supposed to all commit suicide when we saw the Japanese planes coming instead?

That Japan and Germany had planned?
You do realize that our greatest ally through all time, the ones responsible for making us ONE NATION instead od seperate states, France, asked for our help during WW2, and we said NO! In the deepest of shame of my countries history, we DECLINED to help our greatest allies, yeah.

I have no doubt you think it is okay to kill innocent "japs", they are less worth in your eyes as our American lives are much better, I realize that and there is nothing I can say for you to respect other life (then American).

What is funny about the slaughter of Americans that had volunteered to defend our nation? This ought to be good...

No, that you call "them" Americans I found funny.. I presume you use todays borders as your benchmark but the Texas we speak of was Mexican and does "filthy spics" home. It was a REVOLUTION not an invasion... Dude.

Based on what you have said just in this post you show to be ignorant. You therefore have no grounds in deciding if anyone else is ignorant. Try education yourself first. Start in the classroom and then step outside and try taking care of yourself. Then you can look back and see how the world really does turn and what it takes to make it so.

Of course, you are correct.

We did NOT invade Iraq, we did NOT invade Afghanistan, we do NOT have torture camps in Guantanamo Bay, we are NOT the only nation that has dropped Nuclear Bombs killing Hundreds of Thousands of Innocent civilians, we have NEVER invaded Vietnam and we certainly have not rounded up Americans with Japanese history and put them in camps.

No, its all a lie, false propaganda from Big Brother. You are Correct Enchanted, I apologize, I will listen to everything you say in the future and never question your knowledge.

 

[KatNotKathy]

Hitler convinced Japan to attack use because he knew that we would be a hard target, due to our armed populous. He did not want to send his own valuable troops. I assume, since you claim to be an expert on war and all, that you know about Japan and Germany teaming up in a ploy for world domination. Maybe not...you are just a troll after all.

Well, can't blame ya anyways. That is a pretty popular way of seeing things, even if it misses the whole issue of the trade embargo that Japan flipped out and attacked us over...

Gotta admit, I was expecting something more creative here.

We have not invaded Iraq. We are fighting against a militant group that is based in Iraq. I think your brain is asleep.

So sending troops into a country, decapitating their government, setting up your own, then maintaining an occupation isn't an invasion? Just curious, what do you consider an "invasion"?

 

[Alceste]

Of course, you are correct.

We did NOT invade Iraq, we did NOT invade Afghanistan, we do NOT have torture camps in Guantanamo Bay, we are NOT the only nation that has dropped Nuclear Bombs killing Hundreds of Thousands of Innocent civilians, we have NEVER invaded Vietnam and we certainly have not rounded up Americans with Japanese history and put them in camps.

No, its all a lie, false propaganda from Big Brother. You are Correct Enchanted, I apologize, I will listen to everything you say in the future and never question your knowledge.

I bet you also didn't fund and organize military coups to overthrow democratically elected leaders and install dictatorships in Chile, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Iran, Haiti, Ecuador, Iraq, Brazil, Bolivia, Zaire, Ghana, Cambodia, Palestine, Venezuela, Cuba, El Salvador, Honduras...

 

[Gabethewiking]

I bet you also didn't fund and organize military coups to overthrow democratically elected leaders and install dictatorships in Chile, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Iran, Haiti, Ecuador, Iraq, Brazil, Bolivia, Zaire, Ghana, Cambodia, Palestine, Venezuela, Cuba, El Salvador, Honduras...

Alceste, excuse me, are you questioning my integrity as an American? Of course we have never ever been involved in these things, We are Good(tm), others are Bad(tm).

 

[enchanted_one1975]

Well, can't blame ya anyways. That is a pretty popular way of seeing things, even if it misses the whole issue of the trade embargo that Japan flipped out and attacked us over...

Gotta admit, I was expecting something more creative here.

There is no room for creativity within the truth. Problems over commercial trade do not justify the killing of people. You are wrong again. Do you ever get tired of being wrong?

So sending troops into a country, decapitating their government, setting up your own, then maintaining an occupation isn't an invasion? Just curious, what do you consider an "invasion"?

How are we setting up our own government? We overthrew those that overthrew the original leaders in Iraq. We then trained, and are still training them to be self sufficient. We also funded their restructure. Seeing as you you think the US can write endless checks to other nations you should be tickled to death. An invasion is when you attack another without being attacked first.

 

[enchanted_one1975]

...we have NEVER invaded Vietnam and we certainly have not rounded up Americans with Japanese history and put them in camps.

I never denied that our ancestors did that. I also do not deny that Americans used to own people brought over from Africa against their will. Shall we drag the slavery issue into this too? It might distract a little more from the real issue of us printing money to fund issues in other countries when we can't even afford to take care of our own issues.

You are Correct Enchanted, I apologize, I will listen to everything you say in the future and never question your knowledge.

It is better you see the truth later instead of never.

 

[KatNotKathy]

There is no room for creativity within the truth. Problems over commercial trade do not justify the killing of people. You are wrong again. Do you ever get tired of being wrong?

Yo, check my post. I acknowledge that Japan attacking us over a justifiable trade embargo was ********. We were right to deny them oil and steel to use against China, and even though they did attack a valid military target, they did so before a proper declaration of war, suckerpunching us. You can check. I never once said that the attack on Pearl Harbor was justified.

How are we setting up our own government? We overthrew those that overthrew the original leaders in Iraq. We then trained, and are still training them to be self sufficient. We also funded their restructure. Seeing as you you think the US can write endless checks to other nations you should be tickled to death. An invasion is when you attack another without being attacked first.

But we did attack Iraq without being attacked first. No, we weren't just fighting terrorists. We attacked the Iraqi government and killed it's leaders while helping build a new one. That is an invasion.

 

[KatNotKathy]

I never denied that our ancestors did that. I also do not deny that Americans used to own people brought over from Africa against their will. Shall we drag the slavery issue into this too? It might distract a little more from the real issue of us printing money to fund issues in other countries when we can't even afford to take care of our own issues.

Wait, wait. On one hand, we have never invaded another country...except those times we did, but those were our ancestors, so it doesn't count? Just trying to wrap my head around this.

 

[enchanted_one1975]

I never once said that the attack on Pearl Harbor was justified.

Then why are you arguing with me about Pearl Harbor? Just like fighting?

But we did attack Iraq without being attacked first. No, we weren't just fighting terrorists. We attacked the Iraqi government and killed it's leaders while helping build a new one. That is an invasion.

The "leaders" were terrorists that had put themselves in a position of power. They were members of the groups responsible for the attack on our country. Connect the dots! La la la la! Connect the dots! La la la la! Connect the dots! La la la la! Connect the dots! La la la la!

 

[enchanted_one1975]

Wait, wait. On one hand, we have never invaded another country...except those times we did, but those were our ancestors, so it doesn't count? Just trying to wrap my head around this.

Americans buying slaves from slave traders is not the same as America invading another country. I will gladly give you the 33 cents that keeps coming up if you promise to put it toward buying yourself a clue...

 

[KatNotKathy]

Then why are you arguing with me about Pearl Harbor? Just like fighting?

Honestly, I was just curious of how you thought events went, given how you interpreted the events of 9/11. It ended up a lot less interesting than I imagined, but that's a good thing.

The "leaders" were terrorists that had put themselves in a position of power. They were members of the groups responsible for the attack on our country. Connect the dots! La la la la! Connect the dots! La la la la! Connect the dots! La la la la! Connect the dots! La la la la!

You think Saddam Hussein was responsible for 9/11?

No, seriously, is this what you think? Nevermind the fact that we put him in power, do you really think that the Iraqi government is somehow responsible for 9/11?

 

[KatNotKathy]

Americans buying slaves from slave traders is not the same as America invading another country. I will gladly give you the 33 cents that keeps coming up if you promise to put it toward buying yourself a clue...

I wasn't referring to the slave trade. I was referring to Vietnam

Context, man. When I specifically refer invasions, I'm talking about invasions, not the slave trade. It's right there in the post.

 

[Alceste]

I wasn't referring to the slave trade. I was referring to Vietnam

Context, man. When I specifically refer invasions, I'm talking about invasions, not the slave trade. It's right there in the post.

Now, now - vietnam was your "ancestors" bad deed. Ancient history. You can't hold the great great great great great great grandchildren of people who lived all the way back in 1975 accountable for the evil deeds of their ancestors. That's what he's saying. Nobody who is still around these days had anything to do with the Vietnam war - like slavery.

 

[Gabethewiking]

I never denied that our ancestors did that. I also do not deny that Americans used to own people brought over from Africa against their will. Shall we drag the slavery issue into this too? It might distract a little more from the real issue of us printing money to fund issues in other countries when we can't even afford to take care of our own issues.


It is better you see the truth later instead of never.

Hahahhahahah... Our Ancestors... Hahahahhahahah..

 

[Aquitaine]

Hahaha! That's brilliant!

Did you see the video of Bush in a White House press conference in the end admitting there was no link between 9/11 and Saddam, or Iraq?

Hell to my knowledge there isn't even a link established between Osama Bin Laden and 9/11 - check him out under the FBI's top 10 most wanted terrorists, what's he wanted for?

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.htm

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Edit: ^^^Lol, outclassed by Kuwait of all places. I'm actually pretty shocked at some of the generosity up there. Frubals, world.

As a percentage of GDP, it looks like just about everyone was outclassed by Bangladesh.

Show me where the US has ever invaded a country?

The country I live in has been invaded several times by the US.

Hitler convinced Japan to attack use because he knew that we would be a hard target, due to our armed populous. He did not want to send his own valuable troops.

No, FDR (unwittingly, IMO) convinced Japan to attack the US when he threatened to blockade the Philippines to Japanese ships. This would have cut off Japan's oil supply, causing their military to grind to a halt and allowing China to overrun the country. Japanese military command decided that this risk was too great to do nothing, so they decided to try to eliminate it with a pre-emptive attack against the American fleet.

 

[JMorris]

Show me where the US has ever invaded a country?

seriously?

Timeline of United States military operations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Overseas interventions of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[enchanted_one1975]

Can any of you that know so much, mostly still living with your mommies, and drifting this thread toward military tactics, of which you know nothing, please tell me why...

Why has nobody commented on the fact that when we sent food to these supposedly starving people they made up a story that it was bad and started kicking it around instead of eating it? THIS is what the $100,000,000.00 cash advance that we couldn't afford to take paid for.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Can any of you that know so much, mostly still living with your mommies, and drifting this thread toward military tactics, of which you know nothing, please tell me why...

I'd bet most of the people here probably know as much about military tactics as you do about foreign aid.

Edit: and you opened the door to this when you asserted that the American defense budget was all vitally necessary.

Why has nobody commented on the fact that when we sent food to these supposedly starving people they made up a story that it was bad and started kicking it around instead of eating it?

Because it was a single incident based on a misunderstanding, and doesn't negate the huge number of people in real need who are grateful for the help they receive.

THIS is what the $100,000,000.00 cash advance that we couldn't afford to take paid for.

No, it wasn't. It was a UN food shipment, if it matters.