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USA Threatens Nuclear War Against Iran

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The USA has voiced caution and restraint. So the USA is responsible for Israel’s military behavior? Doesn’t add up.
To voice it without acting upon it is merely propaganda.
USA could threaten withdrawal of financial support of
Israel. That would be powerful influence. It chooses not to.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
But when ukraine broke off over 1000 of them were taken down. Ukraine had a huge amount of nukes. That place was russia's texas and after ww2 they built a bunch of underground structures that could still have unaccounted for nukes.
I don't understand that.
AFIK, Ukraine gave all nukes to Russia.
Is there any evidence to the contrary?
 

Bthoth

Well-Known Member
I don't understand that.
AFIK, Ukraine gave all nukes to Russia.
Is there any evidence to the contrary?
Evidence? Rogue russian's learning how business works will sell dangerous property.

Keep in mind, the missiles are not the important part of nukes, it's the material (elements) and technology (know how) that is the most important part of making them stupid things.
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
To voice it without acting upon it is merely propaganda.
USA could threaten withdrawal of financial support of
Israel. That would be powerful influence. It chooses not to.
We give Israel 3 billion a year. So what? Israel makes 8 billion a year selling diamonds. Do you really believe Israel would lose its military if we didn’t give them money?
 

We Never Know

No Slack
You misunderstand my theme.
There is no singular "bad guy".
And your making it about judging some as "bad" &
others as "good" creates a dysfunctional perspective.
Instead, think of "bad acts" & "bad values".
Those should be the things for which change is sought.

No.
It would only increase the violence.
Is that not brilliantly obvious?

"No.
It would only increase the violence.
Is that not brilliantly obvious"


And the US not standing behind and supporting Israel would only increase the violence as other terrorists groups like Hizballah would be more involved and maybe another country or two turning it into a larger war.

Is that not brilliantly obvious?
 

We Never Know

No Slack
We give Israel 3 billion a year. So what? Israel makes 8 billion a year selling diamonds. Do you really believe Israel would lose its military if we didn’t give them money?

"We give Israel 3 billion a year".

At $75+ billion Ukraine has received 25 years worth of Israel's aid in less than two years.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
We give Israel 3 billion a year. So what? Israel makes 8 billion a year selling diamonds. Do you really believe Israel would lose its military if we didn’t give them money?
To "lose its military" isn't an issue.
To influence Israel's behavior for the better is.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
And the US not standing behind and supporting Israel would only increase the violence as other terrorists groups like Hizballah would be more involved and maybe another country or two turning it into a larger war.
I argue that support shouldn't be unconditional.
I'd expect Israel to improve its behavior if it knew
money & military support were at risk.
Negotiations are typically about avoiding carrying
out a threat.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
So without the 3 billion Israel wouldn’t be doing what it’s doing now? Seems a little thin
USA aid to Israel is far greater than a mere few billion dollars.
The full force of USA's military stands ready to defend Israel
from attack. Now we're talking trillions of dollars invested
& ready to deploy. A single new aircraft carrier alone costs
$13 billion.
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
USA aid to Israel is far greater than a mere few billion dollars.
The full force of USA's military stands ready to defend Israel
from attack. Now we're talking trillions of dollars invested
& ready to deploy. A single new aircraft carrier alone costs
$13 billion.
Yeah cuz of Iran. That defense isn’t to attack palestine. Why can’t you answer any of my questions with a yes or no? Oh well think what you want. I’m out
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Yeah cuz of Iran. That defense isn’t to attack palestine. Why can’t you answer any of my questions with a yes or no?
Questions loaded with erroneous embedded
assumptions can't be answered so simply.
Have you stopped beating your wife?
Why do you love me?
 
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