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UU Salad Bar

Select from the UU Salad Bar

  • Christianity

    Votes: 21 65.6%
  • Islam

    Votes: 4 12.5%
  • Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist

    Votes: 16 50.0%
  • Hinduism

    Votes: 9 28.1%
  • Chinese Traditional Reliegion

    Votes: 4 12.5%
  • Buddhism

    Votes: 17 53.1%
  • Primal-Indigenous

    Votes: 5 15.6%
  • African Traditional & Diasporic

    Votes: 1 3.1%
  • Sikhism

    Votes: 3 9.4%
  • Juche

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Spiritism

    Votes: 4 12.5%
  • Judaism

    Votes: 9 28.1%
  • Baha'i

    Votes: 5 15.6%
  • Jainism

    Votes: 2 6.3%
  • Shinto

    Votes: 2 6.3%
  • Cao Dai

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Zoroastrianism

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Tenrikyo

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Neo-Paganism

    Votes: 15 46.9%
  • Rastafarianism

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Scientology

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other, (specify in post)

    Votes: 12 37.5%

  • Total voters
    32

Trey of Diamonds

Well-Known Member
Adherents.com has a list of the worlds Major Religions Ranked by Size and it made me wonder how many of them were represented within the UU population. Take a look at all the selections and pick the religion(s) you feel you identify with. It doesn't have to be exact or only one, any that you draw from spiritually. I myself feel that I have connections with both Christianity and Islam with some Taoism thrown in for good measure.

So if this is our UU Salad Bar, what would you select from.

Adherents.com is a growing collection of over 43,870 adherent statistics and religious geography citations:
 

Trey of Diamonds

Well-Known Member
Also, you can check the link to the list to get a more detail view of a selection. For example, Chinese Traditional Religions include Confucianism and Taoism. Neo-Pagan includes Wiccan, Druidism, etc.

My other selection is my own personal theory that all religions are merely different perceptions of the same universal force.
 

Kungfuzed

Student Nurse
I'd say my beliefs are influenced mostly by Christianity (specifically LDS), Secular Humanism, and Buddhism, at least philisophically. I live a clean healthy life, don't believe in God, and I'm one with the universe.
 

Storm

ThrUU the Looking Glass
I chose
1) Secular/ Nonreligious/ etc. because the individual who's been the biggest influence on me is my Deist father
2) Neopagan because that's the path that I grew out of
3) Other for my own brand of panentheism
 

Green Gaia

Veteran Member
Christianity (as much as I've tried to leave it, it's what I know best and I do still find value in some of the teachings)
Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist
Buddhism
Neo-Paganism
 

lilithu

The Devil's Advocate
Hi Trey, namaste.

I don't understand the question. Are we to select which religions influence us, or which we identify with? I'm influenced by many religions but I only identify as one. I'm UU. :)
 

Trey of Diamonds

Well-Known Member
Hi Trey, namaste.

I don't understand the question. Are we to select which religions influence us, or which we identify with? I'm influenced by many religions but I only identify as one. I'm UU. :)

In your context I would say influence. Basically, at the great Salad Bar of religion, from which do you add to your plate?
 

Wolfscout1

Spiritual Warrior.
Christianity
Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist
Buddhism
Primal-Indigenous
Neo-Paganism
I think all the above and more are covered by my accepting UUism.
 

Trey of Diamonds

Well-Known Member
I thought I would detail the reasons for my choices. Feel free to do so for your choices too but it isn't necessary.

Christianity
I was raised Southern Baptist and so have the most experience and knowledge within the Christian Faith. However, in my teens I lived in Muslim countries and had several Muslim friends. The Baptist church I was going to said that they were all going to Hell because they had not accepted Christ as their savior. So I decided I was not going to be a Baptist.

Islam
As mentioned I spent several years in Muslim countries and learned that Muslim kids make just as good of friends as Christian kids. Later, I began to enjoy history and I studied the history of Islam and found that it was a rich and amazing story, nothing like what the Baptist believed and preached of them.
One of the things I draw from Islam is the fact that there are three ways into Heaven rather than the one believed by Christians. In Islam you can get to Heaven by observing God in the Universe (through nature), through the scriptures or through the prophets. It always seemed to me that they were more open than the Christians if they offered more ways to get to Heaven.

Chinese Traditional Religion
From Taoism I take the concept of Universal Balance, Yin and Yang.

Jainism
I like the idea of Karma and I think Jainism has the best model for how Karma works.

Other
My other is a personal theory I have about religion. I feel that all religions are nothing more than multiple human perceptions of the same thing. Each is structured to be supportive of the culture and enviornment it was created in. As for what that "thing" is, I like to think of it as positive and negative energy that exists throughout all the universe. What we call God is the personification of Positive energy while Satan is the personification of negative energy. The only real question for me is whether or not these forces of energy are self aware or if they simply exist and we personify them in order to better understand them? Oh, that and the other really big question, are the energies separate or two halves of the whole? For if they are two halves of a whole then God and Satan are the same being.
 

lilithu

The Devil's Advocate
Christianity, Secular, Hinduism, Chinese Traditional Religion, Buddhism, Primal-Indigenous, Judaism, Neo-Paganism.

Christianity:
I grew up in a Christian society. I don't mean officially in terms of the govt, but in a society that's permeated with the Christian culture. I'm familiar with the stories, and often use those stories and that language with which to relate my own experience. Jesus is a role model and I feel an intimacy with other biblical figures, tho I interpret them differently than most mainstream Christians. I'm heavily influenced by liberation theology.

Secular:
By secular, I'm assuming "secular religion," ie - the national mythology that permeates the U.S. As opposed to secular just meaning anything that's not religious. For example, our Declaration of Independence, our Constitution and Bill of Rights. For me, these things have religious/spiritual significance. I really do believe that all people are created equal and endowed with inalienable rights. And that's not something that comes explicitly from other faiths, at least not as much. I also firmly believe in the separation of church and state - that it's good for both of them.

Hinduism:
My theology is pretty much Hindu. I believe in a God that pervades and sustains and is not separate from all existence, that is not an anthropomorphic being with superpowers. Basically, I believe in Brahman. And karma. I believe in the Hindu openness to different views, from monotheism to polytheism, everything has value and can be incorporated under its inclusive umbrella.

Chinese Traditional Religion:
What can I say? I am Chinese and grew up with Chinese parents and grandparents and aunts and uncles. How could I not be influenced? Westerners like to draw a contrast between Confucius and Lao Tse and favor the latter and disparage the former, putting them into nice, neat boxes. To me the Tao of Taoism and the Way of Confucianism are the same, just seen thru different eyes that emphasize their respective viewpoints. They are not truly seperable, at least not in Chinese culture. I believe in the Tao, the Way, the Dharma. That there is a natural order to things (which I believe bends towards justice).

Buddhism:
Pretty much already covered in Hinduism and Traditional Chinese Religion. Much of my family is Mahayana Buddhist, and much of Mahayana Buddhism is Buddhism influenced by traditional Chinese religion. The thing that Buddhism emphasizes more than Hinduism (tho it is there in the latter) is interdependency.

Primal-Indigenous:
All indigenous traditions that I've seen are more in tune with nature and the movings of the seasons than the more "evolved" religions. Certainly Taoism has such aspects. And I've recognized it in Native American, European, and African traditions. The four seasons and four directions are important in my spiritual practice, as well as the idea of "guardians."

Judaism:
I've argued and will continue to argue that Judaism was the first religion (on record) that introduced the concept of humanism to our culture, where there is a higher moral order than just what kings decree, a sense of justice that common people have a right to. The Jewish prophets spoke truth to power, even to God, and were advocates for justice for their people. Moreover, the concept of midrash, of continually interpreting scripture so that it is relevant for each age, I think is very UU tho we don't call it by that name.

Neo-Paganism:
Pretty much what I said for primal-indigenous, except that neo-paganism distilled these concepts into more easily accessible bits. For me, neo-paganism is what allowed me to reconnect with Chinese indigenous religion, both as a result of and in reaction to neo-paganism. So it's definitely an influence on me.
 

Trey of Diamonds

Well-Known Member
Secular:
By secular, I'm assuming "secular religion," ie - the national mythology that permeates the U.S. As opposed to secular just meaning anything that's not religious. For example, our Declaration of Independence, our Constitution and Bill of Rights. For me, these things have religious/spiritual significance. I really do believe that all people are created equal and endowed with inalienable rights. And that's not something that comes explicitly from other faiths, at least not as much. I also firmly believe in the separation of church and state - that it's good for both of them.

Yeah, I think you got it. Here is the definition from Adherents.com which is where I got the list from.

The use of the term "nonreligious" or "secular" here refers to belief or participation in systems which are not traditionally labeled "religions." Of course, in the absence of traditional religions, society exhibits the same behavioral, social and psychological phenomena associated with religious cultures, but in association with secular, political, ethnic, commercial or other systems. Marxism and Maoism, for instance, had their scriptures, authority, symbolism, liturgy, clergy, prophets, proselyting, etc. Sports, art, patriotism, music, drugs, mass media and social causes have all been observed to fulfill roles similar to religion in the lives of individuals -- capturing the imagination and serving as a source of values, beliefs and social interaction. In a broader sense, sociologists point out that there are no truly "secular societies," and that the word "nonreligious" is a misnomer. Sociologically speaking, "nonreligious" people are simply those who derive their worldview and value system primarily from alternative, secular, cultural or otherwise nonrevealed systems ("religions") rather than traditional religious systems. Like traditional religions, secular systems (such as Communism, Platonism, Freudian psychology, Nazism, pantheism, atheism, nationalism, etc.) typically have favored spokespeople and typically claim to present a universally valid and applicable Truth. Like traditional religions, secular systems are subject to both rapid and gradual changes in popularity, modification, and extinction.
 

lilithu

The Devil's Advocate
Yeah, I think you got it. Here is the definition from Adherents.com which is where I got the list from.
The use of the term "nonreligious" or "secular" here refers to belief or participation in systems which are not traditionally labeled "religions." Of course, in the absence of traditional religions, society exhibits the same behavioral, social and psychological phenomena associated with religious cultures, but in association with secular, political, ethnic, commercial or other systems. Marxism and Maoism, for instance, had their scriptures, authority, symbolism, liturgy, clergy, prophets, proselyting, etc. Sports, art, patriotism, music, drugs, mass media and social causes have all been observed to fulfill roles similar to religion in the lives of individuals -- capturing the imagination and serving as a source of values, beliefs and social interaction. In a broader sense, sociologists point out that there are no truly "secular societies," and that the word "nonreligious" is a misnomer. Sociologically speaking, "nonreligious" people are simply those who derive their worldview and value system primarily from alternative, secular, cultural or otherwise nonrevealed systems ("religions") rather than traditional religious systems. Like traditional religions, secular systems (such as Communism, Platonism, Freudian psychology, Nazism, pantheism, atheism, nationalism, etc.) typically have favored spokespeople and typically claim to present a universally valid and applicable Truth. Like traditional religions, secular systems are subject to both rapid and gradual changes in popularity, modification, and extinction.
This quote would have been useful in the thread where I was making the argument that everyone has a religion. This is exactly what I was talking about. Then again, it probably would not have made a difference since people who pride themselves in being non-religious (which in and of itself is a religious trait imo) will not consider otherwise for nothin'.
 

Trey of Diamonds

Well-Known Member
Then again, it probably would not have made a difference since people who pride themselves in being non-religious (which in and of itself is a religious trait imo) will not consider otherwise for nothin'.

I wonder if stubbornness could be considerd a religous trait. :sarcastic
 

lilithu

The Devil's Advocate
I wonder if stubbornness could be considerd a religous trait. :sarcastic
lol! I was thinking more in terms of identity. We all invest ourselves in certain identities - we create who we are (to a certain extent) by the identities in which we choose to invest. And we'll react hostilely when we feel our identities are under attack. For some people, it's "I am a Christian." For others, it's "I am too smart to be fooled by that religious crap." Unfortunately, many people in the latter group don't want to consider any explanation for how we are all "religious" by some definitions because what they hear is "You are not what you think you are."
 

keithnurse

Active Member
Christianity. I was originally a Lutheran. I still find meaning in some of the imagery of crossing the Jordan river leaving behind the old for the new life and other symbols of the faith.

Neo Paganism, Taoism, Buddhism, Indigenous religions are all earthy, oneness oriented, celebrating the interconnected web of all existence.
 
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