Vaccinated papers/card and voter ID

[We Never Know]

Have you noticed....

There may be a few that aren't but with most....

The same people who are for vaccinated papers/or card are against voter ID.

And

The same people who are for voter ID are against vaccinated papers/or card.

Insanity at its best

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

Yeah, things are getting crazy, @We Never Know . If it gets any worse, you and I should take a road trip!

(Note: I didn't say a road trip together. For all one knows, we could be going in opposite directions to create more distance.)

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Have you noticed....

There may be a few that aren't but with most....

The same people who are for vaccinated papers/or card are against voter ID.

And

The same people who are for voter ID are against vaccinated papers/or card.

Insanity at its best

So is painting with such huge strokes.

 

[epronovost]

Have you noticed....

There may be a few that aren't but with most....

The same people who are for vaccinated papers/or card are against voter ID.

And

The same people who are for voter ID are against vaccinated papers/or card.

Insanity at its best

Not really the same thing. Voting is a fundamental right while going to the mall without a face mask is a luxury. They are two different things with very different ramification. The fact that you didn't even considered that is a bit worrying (unless it was just dad-level humor in which case *groan*)

 

[We Never Know]

Not really the same thing. Voting is a fundamental right while going to the mall without a face mask is a luxury. They are two different things with very different ramification. The fact that you didn't even considered that is a bit worrying (unless it was just dad-level humor in which case *groan*)

In my opinion both groups use political affiliations to base their acceptance or rejection of things....
Most of the first group are dems
Most of the second group are repubs

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Vaccine ID cost nothing, is readily available to all in the US, and isn't being constructed to obstruct voting of 'the wrong types of people.'

 

[epronovost]

In my opinion both groups use political affiliations to base their acceptance or rejection of things....
Most of the first group are dems
Most of the second group are repubs

That would be a genetic fallacy. That two groups support different positions doesn't mean both groups are doing it n the basis of tribalism instead of other reasons.

 

[We Never Know]

That would be a genetic fallacy. That two groups support different positions doesn't mean both groups are doing it n the basis of tribalism instead of other reasons.

Not a fallacy. Watch the forum and you will see this(below) holds much truth...

"Most of the first group are dems
Most of the second group are repubs"

I didn't say they base their choices because of the party.

 

[epronovost]

I didn't say they base their choices because of the party.

Yes you did.

In my opinion both groups use political affiliations to base their acceptance or rejection of things....
Most of the first group are dems
Most of the second group are repubs

I bolded the passage where you say both group use their political affiliation to base their acceptance or rejection of policies. In other words, Democrats agree on X policies because the Democratic Party is for X policies and vice versa. Implying that this is true based on political division is a fallacy.

 

[We Never Know]

Yes you did.

I bolded the passage where you say both group use their political affiliation to base their acceptance or rejection of policies. In other words, Democrats agree on X policies because the Democratic Party is for X policies and vice versa. Implying that this is true based on political division is a fallacy.

True. That's my opinion. It doesn't make it truth or false or fallacy. It makes it simply my opinion.

 

[Stevicus]

Have you noticed....

There may be a few that aren't but with most....

The same people who are for vaccinated papers/or card are against voter ID.

And

The same people who are for voter ID are against vaccinated papers/or card.

Insanity at its best

Well, you know what's coming next? Everyone will have a barcode tattooed on their head. They'll use scanners which would be tied in to a database with all your information. It could come in handy for ferreting out communist spies.

 

[We Never Know]

Yes you did.



I bolded the passage where you say both group use their political affiliation to base their acceptance or rejection of policies. In other words, Democrats agree on X policies because the Democratic Party is for X policies and vice versa. Implying that this is true based on political division is a fallacy.

Here's another one for you...
If i say, "in my opinion a god doesn't exist"... Is that a fallacy or simply my opinion?

 

[We Never Know]

Well, you know what's coming next? Everyone will have a barcode tattooed on their head. They'll use scanners which would be tied in to a database with all your information. It could come in handy for ferreting out communist spies.

The bar code. Like the movie " Hitman"

 

[epronovost]

True. That's my opinion. It doesn't make it truth or fact or fallacy. It makes it simply my opinion.

Yes, it's your opinion and your opinion is based on a fallacious premise.

 

[epronovost]

If i say, "in my opinion a god doesn't exist"... Is that a fallacy or simply my opinion?

It's a fallacious opinion based on a bare assertion.

 

[We Never Know]

It's a fallacious opinion based on a bare assertion.

So by what your saying anyone saying in their opinion a god does or doesn't exist is a
fallacious opinion.
What is it called when people claim they know for sure a god does or doesn't exist?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Have you noticed....

There may be a few that aren't but with most....

The same people who are for vaccinated papers/or card are against voter ID.

And

The same people who are for voter ID are against vaccinated papers/or card.

Insanity at its best

Who's against voter ID?

I find it interesting how many of the people who staunchly defend the right of a business to refuse customers (when the customers are a gay couple buying a cake) are freaking out at the right of a business to refuse customers (when the customers are doing their best to spread a deadly disease in the middle of a pandemic).

 

[epronovost]

What is it called when people claim they know for sure a god does or doesn't exist?

It's the exact same fallacy. It's a bare assertion. For it not to be a bare assertion one must defend his or her own opinion with an argument like "I don't believe God exists because nobody has ever proven the existence of any spiritual creature" that's an argument. It's not a perfect argument so one can't claim certainty that God doesn't exist with it, but it's a strong argument enough to justify serious doubt.

 

[We Never Know]

Who's against voter ID?

I find it interesting how many of the people who staunchly defend the right of a business to refuse customers (when the customers are a gay couple buying a cake) are freaking out at the right of a business to refuse customers (when the customers are doing their best to spread a deadly disease in the middle of a pandemic).

Who's staunchly defending the rights of a business to refuse peopke?

Not me and that's wasn't in my post.

 

[We Never Know]

It's the exact same fallacy. It's a bare assertion. For it not to be a bare assertion one must defend his or her own opinion with an argument like "I don't believe God exists because nobody has ever proven the existence of any spiritual creature" that's an argument. It's not a perfect argument so one can't claim certainty that God doesn't exist with it, but it's a strong argument enough to justify serious doubt.

An opinion is an opinion, that's it. A claim is an assertion. A false unsupported claim can be a fallacy but not an opinion.