Vaccine experience and poll

[Revoltingest]

People would do well to read this link from a trusted source.
New Data on COVID-19 Transmission by Vaccinated Individuals | Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
Vaccination does offer some protection to the unvaxed.
Excerpted (underlining added)...
New data was released by the CDC showing that vaccinated people infected with the delta variant can carry detectable viral loads similar to those of people who are unvaccinated, though in the vaccinated, these levels rapidly diminish. There is also some question about how cultivatable—or viable—this virus retrieved from vaccinated people actually is.

While this sounds discouraging, it’s important to keep three things in mind:

1. Vaccines remain highly effective at preventing severe disease.
2. Breakthrough infections among vaccinated individuals remain uncommon.
3. The majority of new COVID-19 infections in the US are among unvaccinated people.

 

[Revoltingest]

The above info points to vaccination being useful to achieve herd immunity.

 

[Valjean]

I haven't read that as of yet, but can you provide a link?

I have a subscription to Scientific American, but I'm over a month behind will so much with us that's been going on in our family. Thus, I haven't seen any of the data so far on the children's vaccines.

A quick google producedThis: https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-12-mrna-vaccine-safety.html
but i didn't find specific comparisons.
Previous technology, though, used attenuated "live" viruses, inactivated "dead" viruses or viral subunits. These are potentially more problematic than a snippet of code.
I recall the "Cutter incident" back in the fifties ( I think), in which an attenuated virus vaccine from Cutter pharmaceuticals wasn't attenuated enough, a lot of people came down with with polio.

 

[InChrist]

When there is no change in routine and nothing we do to increase chances of catching COVID vaccination becomes personal choice not a necessity.

It's weird the same person who knew me four years ago thought I was fine but in the last year when I said I wasn't vaccinated I became contagious.

Fear leads to cognitive distortions such as generalizing and mind reading. It leads to anxiety and groupthink. Lots of assumptions involved and it's totally inappropriate to assume about people who live a thousand miles away.

Fear also leads to scapegoating, which helps people who are in a constant state of fear and anxiety feel better if they are the “good” ones doing the right things and those others who don’t comply are the “bad” ones.

 

[Rival]

It would be very rare for someone in the UK not to know someone that has died from Covid, I knew two so far.

I don't know of anyone.

 

[metis]

A quick google producedThis: https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-12-mrna-vaccine-safety.html
but i didn't find specific comparisons.
Previous technology, though, used attenuated "live" viruses, inactivated "dead" viruses or viral subunits. These are potentially more problematic than a snippet of code.
I recall the "Cutter incident" back in the fifties ( I think), in which an attenuated virus vaccine from Cutter pharmaceuticals wasn't attenuated enough, a lot of people came down with with polio.

That's really a good article that well fits very well into what I've read in Scientific American, so thanks so much for that.